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subcheryl -> RE: are slaves rare (4/14/2005 3:19:44 PM)

slaveanwyl, I know what you mean, it is hard to except a compliment when for most of your life you have been to believe you are worthless. My Master treasures me and cares for me and at times I feel very uncomfortable with that because I wish to serve him and feel the gratitude he displays causes me to feel uncomfortable, I am getting past that but at my weaker moments it still makes me uncomfortable.

lil1v I also agree with you. Just because a Master/Dom is caring, gentle and affectionate, does not mean he isn't in control. I came into the lifestyle thinking I was submissive, but I came to my Master as a slave. The more I read and took a look at myself, I knew I would give total power to my Master. In my life I had to be the dominate one and it made me extremely unhappy to the pt. of thinking suicide twice. And as I searched for what I wanted in a relationship, I realized I didn't really want to be resposible for decisions or any of the things of the big mean world, call it sticking your head in the sand if you want, but Master reconizes that need in me, and yes we do discuse things but he always decides. He has taken up the bat for me in situations that I would have just let go, for instance, recently went to a med. clinic with a migraine Master had called before hand to make sure they knew we were coming and that they could handle the situation, after being assured they could see me, he took me in, let them know we were there, and we proceeded to sit for 2 long agonizing hrs waiting, only to be told by the dr. they couldn't help me, Master then took me to local er I was treated and sent home, Master tucked me in, went to get prescription for me, then went to work well next day he was on the phone to both the clinic and the head office to let them know we would not be going back there again and that the treatment or handling of the situation was unacceptable. Now was he less of a Master because he took care of me and not me him, I don't think so, in my book he became even more of a Master in that he knew I would have let my treatment, by the clinic go without saying anything, so he made sure that they knew we were unhappy with the way things went, it helps he works in a VA hosp. and knows the proceedures that should have been followed. To Me a Good Dom/Master takes care of his own, whether to others it seems weak on his part to care, doesn't matter, By the way I thought Masters/Doms were human, with hearts that beat and feel, hmmmmm am I wrong? What is wrong with them feeling for their subs/slaves? Just as long as they both know who is in control. So lil1v I too agree with you. You are not alone.



Voltare -> RE: are slaves rare (4/14/2005 4:12:15 PM)

Hmm... if 'great' slaves grew on trees all around me, it would make the experiences of meeting new people and getting to know them a bit boring I'd think. I don't think they're exactly 'commonplace' - but I don't use message boards as a measuring stick.

As for precious, I don't think a slave would ever be precious to me simply for the fact that she was a slave, or even my slave. I would think her precious for a number of other reasons, romantic and emotionally, but independent of her status of 'slave.' Rest assured, I wouldn't be 'serving' her by telling her these feelings.

Stephan



lil1v -> RE: are slaves rare (4/14/2005 4:19:22 PM)

subCheryl - First .. thank you so much for your story.. It made me cry it was so sweet. I dream of having that type of relationship again. Its nice to know its not a fluke but people actually live it.

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ORIGINAL: subcheryl
In my life I had to be the dominate one and it made me extremely unhappy to the pt. of thinking suicide twice.


*HUG* I know that feeling too well. While I know I could never follow through, those thoughts have happened. I've always tried to start out as the submissive one. Picked men that showed early in the relationship signs of being a loving dominant, but after a while.. the balances tipped and I was the one suddenly in charge and loathing it... them loving it.

My marriage has pretty much followed the same path, until my "breakdown" last fall. Now we're friends sharing a house.

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ORIGINAL: subcheryl

And as I searched for what I wanted in a relationship, I realized I didn't really want to be resposible for decisions or any of the things of the big mean world, call it sticking your head in the sand if you want, but Master reconizes that need in me, and yes we do discuse things but he always decides.


lol ... I always tell people I have an "ostrich" personality. If I can stick my head in the sand far enough, it doesn't exist anymore. I also have my very own pair of rose colored glasses for when sticking my head in the sand would mess up my hair.

Since my "breakdown" I no longer attempt to make decisions (which drives hubby crazy).. I might discuss it or express my opinions. But I refuse to make the decision. (this remarkably has done wonders for my stress level and mental state) hubby has slowly been adjusting to this.. and we'll see how it goes.

If or when I'm ever single again, I'm never going to settle for someone who doesn't want that leadership role. When we started dating hubby said he did, turns out he didn't. But we'll see.


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ORIGINAL: subcheryl

He has taken up the bat for me in situations that I would have just let go....


*sighs* LOVE that in a man. I mean.. well .. when its justified like in your case. Now if they're harassing the waiter endlessly because the steak was a little bit too rare or well done, and the waiter already did everything possible to rectify the situation.. then thats just being a jerk.

cheryl - you're man sounds fantastic.. lucky lucky you.. I'm so envious. :)




Mercnbeth -> RE: rare redheaded slaves (4/14/2005 4:38:25 PM)

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So how do we save the recessive gened redheaded Woman from extinction ?


Interesting question, perhaps Master could apply for a grant to establish the "Save the Redheads Foundation" Wondering if the application should be for an "endangered" or "threatened" species..the Government doles out quite a bit of cash to save plants and animal species, why not rare genetic human species?

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Before a plant or animal species can receive protection under the Endangered Species Act, it must first be placed on the Federal list of endangered and threatened wildlife and plants. Our listing program follows a strict legal process to determine whether to list a species, depending on the degree of threat it faces. An “endangered” species is one that is in danger of extinction throughout all or a significant portion of its range. A “threatened” species is one that is likely to become endangered in the foreseeable future.


full text of the above article can be found: http://endangered.fws.gov/wildlife.html#Species

Perhaps our friends in the UK could be of some help and tap the MRC for a research grant. No need for the "Carrot Tops" to marry the colleen's, we'll just get the colleen's to donate eggs and the "Carrot Tops" to donate sperm and use surrogates, or better yet, clone them! Maybe that's what the Scots were REALLY up to when they cloned Dolly the sheep, just doing a trial run for the redhead cloning they are planning in the future!

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MRC offers a range of schemes from studentships for early research training through to more senior fellowships for both clinical and non-clinical researchers. You can view information on grant schemes and on recent changes to our grants systems in this section of the website. The MRC also provides information and advice on opportunities offered by the European Commission and other international funding agencies, as well as those international biomedical research organisations where the MRC plays an important role in representing and managing the UK's interests.


full text of this article and the MRC site are found here



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nella -> RE: rare redheaded slaves (4/15/2005 5:29:22 PM)

i belive that is what many submissive women and perhaps men to, want, they want to be in a realitionship where somone else taks the desitions, where they feel somone`s power over them, and where they are taken care of. In stead of having to face the world, and make their own desitions, they would want to feel safe and proteacted. i know it is what i want. All the BDSM stuff whit whips and sex come as a nice bonus.



junecleaver -> RE: rare redheaded slaves (4/15/2005 8:36:25 PM)

Precious slaves are made, not born. If you are an absolutely wonderful slave it probably has a good deal to do with your Master.



BlkTallFullfig -> RE: are slaves rare (4/15/2005 11:17:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lil1v
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ORIGINAL: kisshou
If a Master/Mistress treated me like i was rare and precious, caring for and protecting me then i would wonder who is serving whom. i would view them as weak and see them in a submissive light.

Ugh.. this belief that a Master/Mistress has to be uncaring, hard, mean, crass, etc.. or they can't be a Dom/me.. just burns me. Its one of the reasons I got out of the lifestyle the first time, and one of the reasons I feel like disappearing from it again.

Dear Lil1v, please don't let that perception run you away from the lifestyle. The one thing I've learned in this lifestyle is that every D/s or M/s relationship is different; it depends entirely on the 2 people involved and their needs.
I am a loving/kind (most days, lol) Domme who would like slave level submission; not because I want a person who doesn't speak and is like a useless thing to me... I would definitely treat my sub as a most precious possession, and hopefully love/care for him.
I've chat with slaves who say that kind of thinking makes me not Dominant enough, they want to be treated worse than dogs, to which I reply, they aren't the right slave for me.

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I seem to have a whole different grasp on what should constitute a healthy BDSM relationship than most everyone else. Some agree with me. Some obviously don't.

This lifestyle is not about all of us agreeing as I understand. What's important is to find the right master for you, not for anyone else; not an easy thing to do, and requires patience and the sense of humor to deal with a good amount of BS (I think).
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One of the most attractive qualities I've ever found in a Dom/me is the ability to love with everything that is in them, and yet never lose control. To care, and yet because they care, discipline. To protect me from harm, yet blissfully torture me themselves. To that kind of Dom, I could become slave-like if not a slave itself.

I don't think there is a single thing wrong with that thinking. It's just difficult to find a caring, not completely-self-centered person to have common interests/long-term desires as well as the ellusive chemistry. M



lil1v -> RE: are slaves rare (4/16/2005 12:38:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig
It's just difficult to find a caring, not completely-self-centered person to have common interests/long-term desires as well as the ellusive chemistry. M



*laughs* Yes.. I know.. I always did seek the impossible. Though I am told miracles happen.

*crosses her fingers*



nella -> RE: are slaves rare (4/16/2005 2:54:09 AM)

Who says dogs have to be treated badly?

But i agree, it is up to eatch person`s kink, and for me that kink is not a Dom that is hard an unfeeling, if i only wanted pain and no feeling behind it, i could cause pain to myself.



diaperedbaby -> RE: are slaves rare (4/16/2005 6:46:47 AM)

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would think that if a Master/Mistress is really a Master/Mistress... the slave and the Master/Mistress could both think the slave is indispensable and yet both would know who was in control. Just because you're indispensable, doesn't mean you won't get punished for doing wrong and punished hard. A good Master/Mistress knows how to keep their slave (indispensable or not) in line.

But then, I've already established I'm from a whole different school of thought here..

I think we need more people with your prospective. While I may be a sub, I bring alot to the table. I would think a relationship would be more satisfying rather than whether I measure up to someones investment in time and training. Get a hooker if that is what one is seeking, and pay by the hour. I wouldn't give a dominant with that kind of attitude the time of day.

Lil1v.......you got it right



soulbkm -> come to my kindom (4/17/2005 8:51:39 AM)

11 ways 2 make a girl smile... 1. Hold her hand whenever u can!! 2. Tell her shes the only girl u wanna be with 3. Pick her up & play-wrestle with her 4.Talk to her w/o havin to kiss her 5. Tell her funny & stupid jokes 6. Let her fall asleep in ur arms 7. If shes mad at u, kiss her 8. Give her piggy back rides 9. Look her in the eyes & smile. 10. When u fall in love with her, tell her!!11) make her feel like a beauty queen and tel her how beautiful she is....!
Debora
email: /d/e/b/a/n/g/2/2/0/0/0@y/a/h/o/o/./c/o/m/



nella -> RE: come to my kindom (4/17/2005 10:11:37 AM)

soulbkm: Give her piggy back rides 9


i am soo looking forward to being given a pigge back ride whit all of my 126 kg. [;)]



Kinkypupper -> RE: are slaves rare (4/17/2005 10:03:03 PM)

A True slave has given the gift of "self" to her/his master..
There can be no greater gift then that.
There are not many in this world who know who they really are inside.
Slaves are indeed very rare..
Doms are not so rare
Wannabees .. well we are up to our necks in them.

So if you are indeed a true slave you have a value greater then anything on this earth to your Master.



darkinshadows -> RE: are slaves rare (4/18/2005 5:48:38 AM)

kisshou... are you owned?

(specific reason behind this... flow with me...if you wish)

and do you think that a submissive is less of a person, because she isn't a slave?
Just a thought...

Peace and Love



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