SusanofO -> RE: Anyone believe in the supernatural? (4/4/2007 4:10:36 AM)
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I am not objecting to your POV meatcleaver, and I kind of understand what you are saying, especially since - If I only believed or enjoyed things I could prove existed, I'd probably eliminate about half of the most enjoyable parts of my life. Do "fantasies" exist? Maybe, maybe not, but I find them very useful sometimes - especially in the bdsm realm. I'd hate to think my very realistic orgasms were all the result of some fraudulent trick of my brain, something outside the "natural laws of the physical universe" Are they? Are fantasies, for instance, something that would be considered "natural", or "supernatural"? It's a serious question, Because - What exactly is meant by the term "super-natural"? I read your definition above, I just want to know how things like the imagination place, within the so-called "physical laws of the universe". Because imagination and thought have existed as a human phenomenon for quite awhile, and without them, humans would not be perceiving such things as "the physical laws of the universe." To me, the term "super-natural" seems to be a catch-all phrase for what is merely, much of the time, simply out of the realm of a single person's (or a group of people's) experience. The "physical laws of the universe" are pretty much evolving (as far as it appears to humans anyway) being ever more discovered, since time began. I don't assume they are static, or that even what science thinks is "known" is possibly completely correct, as you say. But to me, that is all the more reason it would be silly to believe that what is "known" is to be considered "all there is to know", or static and unchanging - considering just a few hundred years ago, the rest of the world believed the Earth was flat and the Sun revolved around it, for instance. I don't consider that a reason to not consider other possibilities for why things might exist (or consider if they do). If people did that, IMO, not many might be very inspired to ever want to discover new reasons for things existing. IMO, an imagination is a terrible thing to waste. Most (if not all) of what people perceive as enjoyable (or awful, or nuetral, or "weird") is filtered through a sensual system (however many senses that may entail, two, five, or six senses, who's counting, really?) that is maybe only partly perceived the exact same way by anyone else. Individual people are all going to see a painting or a movie, or experience a book, differently, for example. Films, art and books, for instance, originate from an ethereal place that cannot be pinned down - the realm of the imagination. *Your argument seems to be that you cannot believe in things you cannot see. But then - how does one explain the sense of joy they may receive from a D/s relationship, for instance - it is all in one's head, for the most part, is it not? Considering the brain is "the biggest sex organ", etc? The emotions, the inter-play between two people that result from it - none of it would exist at all, if not for that elusive thing one cannot see- imagination. Without thought (imagination), there can be no action. My guess is that you believe in plenty of things you cannot see already. It is interesting to speculate why one can believe in these things, and yet cannot fathom believing in other things that have not been "proven" to exist. It's bizarre, in fact (to me anyway.) - Susan
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