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RE: Plastic Surgery..would you? - 4/3/2007 10:25:30 AM

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I indeed was removed from consideration by a DOm who wanted me to agree to have a tummy tuck.
I explained with all the scars on my tummy I'd still not look like Barbie in a bikini & adding a smiley face scar along the whole bottom of my stomach would not be worth a little tightening to me.
We'd been talking a few months and I was very well matched it seemed in all but this one issue.
I have very little A almost B cup boobs. I also enjoy heavy breast play.
I think if I was willing to have a boob job purely for my Dom as I like my little boobies just like they are I'd lose most of the breast play factors I enjoy as I'd no longer be able to do heavy crushing squeezing or needles or tight breast bondage any longer.
Personally to have big jugs I can't play with hard wouldn't be worth it to me.
Over all I'm not a fan of plastic surgery ofr any one as an enhancement as I think it's a band aid over someone with low self esteem. I think plastic reconstrucive surgery or medically necessary plastic surgery is the only kind I'd choose on my own to participate in.
Mind you I can never say never as depending on my ownership I may become a fake woman one day for a Master that would own me due to his desire to change me from the woman he met and accepted after the fact.
Up front I would not agree, but after say several years of ownership being a wonderful thing under someone there'd not be much I'd deny them. If it came up after ownership and I was content with the man I'd given my will to in my submission and wanting to continue I'd just have to.
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RE: Plastic Surgery..would you? - 4/3/2007 10:49:00 AM

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i would have plastic surgery to please myself, i wont not have surgery to please another...........my attitude is.....u want a woman with big breasts, flat tum etc........go find one.
I once lived with a dom and during the time we were together we both put on a considerable amount of weight. One day he said he no longer found me sexually attractive and that i should lose weight,.....(no mention of him losing weight)..... i refused saying that i did not want my weight to control my sexual attractiveness.
the relationship broke down after this..........i couldnt even undress in the same room with him after that comment.
we broke up (yes we were in love and yes it was very hard and very messy)
and it was the best thing we ever did........i have since lost some weight, he has since put on more but he is with a naturally very thin woman now...........who is lovely (despite the fact im scared to hug her) and im with someone who does not care about my weight (cant argue with a hard on lol)
i think people should be honest about what they find physically attractive, i have no problem with profiles which say 'no big women', 'no short men' etc.........normally saves a lot of messy endings.

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RE: Plastic Surgery..would you? - 4/3/2007 11:02:17 AM

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Body modification happens all the time. We wear make up, have our eyebrows plucked or waxed. We have our hair dyed and false nails and do not think twice on removing body hair.

Whilst 'plastic surgery' (which also includes nail enhancements) is a major step, it is just a case of 'what is too much for you'.

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RE: Plastic Surgery..would you? - 4/3/2007 12:04:15 PM

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I'd never do cosmetic surgery. For one, the last thing i need is bigger boobs, good lord

. Now a reduction and reperking would be an idea. But considering my body rejects sutures I'm going to go with no surgery for me, ever.

A quarter inch incision on my breast is now a scar the size of a quarter. As long as there are stitches or staples in my body the cut will not heal. I have to heal bottom up. So surgery is not in my furture. Any Dom will have to take me as is. Kinda like an old house hehe

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RE: Plastic Surgery..would you? - 4/3/2007 1:12:07 PM

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obviously, my Master has the right to alter my body in whatever way he wants. tho i admit i would probably be somewhat hurt if he all of a sudden decided he didn't like the way i naturally looked and wanted some part of me to be different. we have discussed "maintenance" sort of cosmetic procedures, like a breast lift when i get older before they start to sag...that's not something that would make me look like a new person, but rather like the "me" he fell in love with and was first attracted to.

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RE: Plastic Surgery..would you? - 4/3/2007 1:14:22 PM

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quote:

Doms.. would you ever request/require it?

Nope, but I would be open to discussing it if it was something important to the sub and may or may not agree that it is necessary or beneficial.

If something was so unappealing physically about the person, I probably wouldn't be with him or her in the first place.

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RE: Plastic Surgery..would you? - 4/3/2007 1:28:21 PM

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Due to circumstance beyond our control, still have not met my sub in person (hopefully this weekend), but he tells me he has a scar on his leg that is so bad his former domme preferred him to keep it covered. One thing i plan to do as i inspect him is to touch it, with my hands and mouth...let him know i accept him the way he is. I don't buy a book because of the cover, it's the good stuff inside that matters.

All our wrinkles, scars, sags and bags make us who we are. It might not seem so at 25 but at 40 i appreciate more than ever who i am and who i will continue to become.

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RE: Plastic Surgery..would you? - 4/3/2007 1:34:30 PM

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Seeing as most of the replies have been from the "Okay in my gender" standpoint, i guess i get to provide this TS's view. i'll admit, SRS is plastic surgery, and i do want to go through with it. Yes, i am currently unattached, too. But, should i be in a D/s at the time of SRS and other such things, i would want to discuss everything with my Dominant; RE: any changes made bodily. i think the only thing i am totally resolute on in regards to such is that yes, i want the vaginoplasty.

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RE: Plastic Surgery..would you? - 4/3/2007 1:56:35 PM

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I think SRS is a completely different proposition to me. If you have gotten to the point that you are ready for something that major, then you need it. And you are definately doing it for yourself first IMO.

Best of luck with your pursuit!

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RE: Plastic Surgery..would you? - 4/3/2007 2:03:01 PM

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I don't know if I would do if for a Dom - but had I the money I would do a nip/tuck just for me and how I feel.

It would be great do get a dress that fit on the bottom AS well as the top.

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RE: Plastic Surgery..would you? - 4/3/2007 2:42:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
One of my clients just discovered that they left a sponge in when they did her tummy tuck 3 years ago. She's been sick for those three years. Matter of fact, she just had a portion of her face removed because the bacteria was eating it away. She recently fainted in the ladies room at JFK Airport. It wasn't until this point that they figured out what had happened. She told me that the Xray of her abdomen looks like she was shot with buckshot. They're apparently going to have to remove a lot of things in there. Luckily for her, she works for a great company. They put heron paid medical leave and told her to go get healthy. A lot of companies would have fired her for the amount of time she's missed.

As an RN i find that a surgical sponge was left in the patient...they have these neato rings sewn to every single fabric or other wise xray invisable object that goes into the or.....how it went 3 years with out being foudn is difficult....they do NOT CLOSE a surgical wound and call it a day until all the counts are done and matched....but that is here in america....in the land of the free and the home of the brave....perhaps your friend went out of the country for a "bargain?"

but that is just my humble opinion...it annoys and bothers me when someone puts fears into people regrding such things regarding surgeries....do infections happen? YES during my gallbladder I had the darn scar bust open on post op day 9 and leave quite a mess upon my floor

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RE: Plastic Surgery..would you? - 4/3/2007 2:45:39 PM

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Yes, it kind of has come up. I want a breast enlargement / lift and he says no!!

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RE: Plastic Surgery..would you? - 4/3/2007 3:10:25 PM

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Hi,

From the male perspective, i have been asked by a Domme if i would have a crcumscision performed as She is completely turned off by an uncut penis. Since we agree on everything except this issue, i have comsented to do so.

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RE: Plastic Surgery..would you? - 4/3/2007 3:19:16 PM

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Plastic Surgery.....

As the one here that is about as open as a book on the subject I will put my soap box out and give my pearls of "wisdom" LOL

I don't concider myself a vain person ..but comes a time in everyone's life that there are things that one had control over become uncontrolable.

After my first breast reconstruction (for those that do not know my past Im a breast cancer survivor) The results were far less than I was happy with... and honestly it was less than the man i was involved with was expecting as well.) okay that being said I had been told a thousand ways to sunday by men, woman, playmates and strangers alike that i looked fine....I didnt feel fine.

So i saved my pennies and nickles and alot of dimes and bought myself some boobs.... Had that man that wasn't happy with the result said "Red, we have to do something about these boobs"...I would have agreed with him...and said "great get a second job and help me pay for them..." I have been in relationships where, when i was significantly heavier...(like 75lbs heavier) i was told that i needed to lose weight and was put on a weekly weight watch...

how and why major the distinction of plastic surgeries and forced weight loss/gain i do not understand. these are all emotional/physical health issues. I above all understand the risks of surgery, the fact that you do not always get what you expect, and the possible counter effects (loss of pieces, parts, and life). I do not understand why those of you who claim that you would do anything for your master....piercings, tatoos, brandings, inflations, sounds, bondage, electroplay, fire play, and the like well for each and every one of these things there are risks and the like... including loss of parts, pieces and life... I realize maybe I'm just a submissive woman that has an actual belief in what it is that i do....

I do not claim to live and breathe only for my significant other....I am far more valuable living and contributing to the relationship with he who would have me...but honestly if i had the "die hard I would crawl over glass for him" mantra spewing from within me...then YES I would have PORN STAR size implants put in and be happy as a pig in mud about it...I'm one of those if i talk the talk....i walk the walk in my 5 inch stillettos with style.

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RE: Plastic Surgery..would you? - 4/3/2007 3:25:31 PM

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and type in, way too big, font..........ouch

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RE: Plastic Surgery..would you? - 4/3/2007 3:33:37 PM

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I'm with you servilecat... I'd get a breast reduction in a heart beat; should I find myself with an extra $10K or so. <sigh>

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RE: Plastic Surgery..would you? - 4/3/2007 5:13:22 PM

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If I wanted to alter myself, I would hope my Dom would be supportive but ok with me either way. Personally, though, I would NEVER alter myself for someone else, and I would not want him to want me to do that. If he isn't happy with who I am, he shouldn't be with me. Accept me as I am.

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RE: Plastic Surgery..would you? - 4/3/2007 5:29:44 PM

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sometimes surgery will make us more beautiful for our partners. But sometimes we are changing partner and some tatoos with names can be a problem but brast implnatns can make woman more atractive and will not do anything wrong for her

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RE: Plastic Surgery..would you? - 4/3/2007 5:44:42 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: CandleInTheWind
As an RN i find that a surgical sponge was left in the patient...they have these neato rings sewn to every single fabric or other wise xray invisable object that goes into the or.....how it went 3 years with out being foudn is difficult....they do NOT CLOSE a surgical wound and call it a day until all the counts are done and matched....but that is here in america....in the land of the free and the home of the brave....perhaps your friend went out of the country for a "bargain?"

I disapprove of your "bargain" statement, that was harsh and just not at all needed.

Actually, surgeries in the U.S. go wrong more often than the media or hospitals like to admit, especially during plastic surgery. Just because the regs say you're supposed to do something a certain way, doesn't mean the docs are going to follow the regs. I work for an IRB - we know when physicians decide to ignore the rules. We find out. The FDA finds out first, usually. And it becomes a really bad mark on their career. Yet, there are still a lot of doctors and surgeons who don't like to follow the rules. That's where audits come in. And lawsuits.

The sad truth is, horrible mistakes are made all the time.

Some references for you:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=4329
Medical News Today article

http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/medical_mishaps.shtml
Top 10 medical mishaps (far less reputable looking AND sounding, but these events occur)

http://www.bu.edu/phpbin/news-cms/news/?dept=1127&id=40573
Unpeeling Cosmetic Surgery's Glossy Surface (this article would be better if she listed citations)

http://www.facs.org/ahp/proliab/1198b.html
The first HUGE paragraph under "Introduction" actually TALKS about surgical sponges. And it's the American College of Surgeons website <3

As to the original topic...

HELLS no. IF I entered into a D/s relationship as a sub again (unlikely at this point), I would refuse. I don't even like teh idea of getting a tattoo for your Dominant - why get a permanent mark for someone you may not be with for more than a few months to a few years? It's like tattooing your first boyfriend's name on your ass. You'd feel a bit stupid after the breakup. And cover-up tats don't always.. well.. cover up.

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ORIGINAL: justinedoll

sometimes surgery will make us more beautiful for our partners. But sometimes we are changing partner and some tatoos with names can be a problem but brast implnatns can make woman more atractive and will not do anything wrong for her

And because I'm in adisagreeable mood today, actually, breast implants CAN cause a woman harm. Especially since the FDA said it's OK to use sillicone again, which was just freakin' STUPID (why, FDA, why? You use dto be so reputable after the Elixer Sulfanilamide incident). Not all women get huge boosts of self esteem or feel prettier. I would just feel even worse that I had to get sacs of goo inserted into my tits to make someone want me.

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RE: Plastic Surgery..would you? - 4/3/2007 6:08:56 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: CandleInTheWind

As an RN i find that a surgical sponge was left in the patient...they have these neato rings sewn to every single fabric or other wise xray invisable object that goes into the or.....how it went 3 years with out being foudn is difficult....they do NOT CLOSE a surgical wound and call it a day until all the counts are done and matched....but that is here in america....in the land of the free and the home of the brave....perhaps your friend went out of the country for a "bargain?"

Ummmm....no...unless you consider Ohio out of the country and an area for "bargain" plastic surgery.

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