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curiouslyseeking -> Military Masters (4/4/2007 1:12:49 PM)
*Greetings to all the forum cruisers,* *For those of you that are in the military or have had past military experience, does your military training influence you as a Master and the way you conduct your relationships? If so, how?* *Always,* *~curious~*

jauntyone -> RE: Military Masters (4/4/2007 2:17:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: curiouslyseeking *Greetings to all the forum cruisers,* *For those of you that are in the military or have had past military experience, does your military training influence you as a Master and the way you conduct your relationships? If so, how?* *Always,* *~curious~* Greetings curious you forgot to ask about those submissives/slaves who have had military training [:)] I wish you well melissa

curiouslyseeking -> RE: Military Masters (4/4/2007 2:29:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jauntyone quote: ORIGINAL: curiouslyseeking *Greetings to all the forum cruisers,* *For those of you that are in the military or have had past military experience, does your military training influence you as a Master and the way you conduct your relationships? If so, how?* *Always,* *~curious~* Greetings curious you forgot to ask about those submissives/slaves who have had military training [:)] I wish you well melissa *[8\|].....ahhhhh, a good point, melissa* *The verdict is in...so it be added...[:D]* *~The court of curious~*

CuriousLord -> RE: Military Masters (4/4/2007 3:20:52 PM)
My military training is limited- one year USMC (US Marines). It was a hell year for me. Life fell apart when I decided to go off, so, to that end, it affects everything in my life, down to my basic emotions. Sob story aside, I doubt it would have affected my Master positions greatly. The service is something I see as having been a different life. I imagine most feel this way. Some may have incorporated into their definition of self (as I have not)- those seem to be the more career-oriented individuals. I take away the understanding, though, that I am dominant. That my TAC officer respected me and my company's sargent major backed down from me when I was still the lowest rank. The CO addressed me with amusement and laughed at the unconscious body of one of the other lower ranks who attacked me inside my room on barracks. I learned that I am different from others- entirely disconcerned with orders. Higher officers often (though not always) had to address me in a manner one might deem unecessarily civil if they had hoped for results. I learned I need space. That I do not think the same way most do.. that it is a gift in use and a curse in effect. I learned that I scare people- even powerful men- when I open my mouth or betray passion in countence. And, by the end, I learned my place in life. I was too independent to be a controlled, too hateful to be a counterpart, and too weak to be an absolute superior. I carry this with me into this life.

LadyHugs -> RE: Military Masters (4/4/2007 4:23:33 PM)
Dear curiouslyseeking, Ladies and Gentlemen; In my mind's eyes I 'borrow' from military experiences, just as I borrow from other D/s power-authority-respect-responsibility entities, such as Imperial, Civilian and Religion as D/s structures. Four foundation pillars per se, to which any one or more helps an average individual comprehend the authority, respect and submission. Just some thoughts. Respectfully submitted for consideration, Lady Hugs

jauntyone -> RE: Military Masters (4/4/2007 5:51:20 PM)
Greetings curious Naturally, Master is gone so I will not attempt to even speak on his behalf. However, for myself, being in the Marines has not in any way ; I guess a good word is, hindered; it has not in any way hindered my ability to be who I am with Master. You must also understand though that my father was a marine also so, I am quite accustomed to the lifestyle itself. I wish you well melissa

hisannabelle -> RE: Military Masters (4/4/2007 6:12:39 PM)
greetings curiouslyseeking, He was in the military for a loooooong time (30+ years). He retired a year or two before we got together, although i first met Him when He was still in the reserves. i think the biggest way it affected how we relate to each other was in the fact that He was used to compartmentalizing His life...He wasn't very emotional or affectionate because He'd lived alone so long, and when He was married (which was a long time ago in and of itself), He apparently didn't involved His family in the stuff He did while He was in the military. also, the nature of His work in the military lent itself to a strong desire for privacy and so He became very closed off. it's both helped us and hindered us, in some ways...it has caused me to be more independent and less codependent, like i was in my past relationships, but He has also grown a lot as far as letting me in and talking about things. edited to add: due to His rank, He was used to being over a lot of people while He was in, but i don't think that those experiences really affect the way He relates to me within our dynamic. respectfully, annabelle.

damia -> RE: Military Masters (4/4/2007 6:23:12 PM)
my Master is an Army soldier, and had this to say in response: "Possibly, in as much as the military is a commanding, structured enviornment. It is possible that day-to-day operations in such an environment do influence the Master and slave. Speaking from a Master's point of view, having to take orders all day, it's nice to put the shoe on the other foot, so to speak. It's nice to be able to come home and be the one in charge, which offers a balance. By the same token, there may be soldiers or officers that have a leadership position that once they come home, like to enjoy a submissive aspect, to give up the control that they have to exercise everyday. Case in point, corporate executives who like to visit with professional dominants in order to give up control."

sweetnurseBBW -> RE: Military Masters (4/4/2007 6:26:21 PM)
Having been a military wife for a long time I can see it goes either way. Unless someone is a CO most of their time is spent taking orders and doing what others tell them. They tell them how to dress, where to go, when to go, when to eat etc. It gives structure but I think it depends on the individuals personality to begin with.

curiouslyseeking -> RE: Military Masters (4/4/2007 8:23:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord And, by the end, I learned my place in life. I was too independent to be a controlled, too hateful to be a counterpart, and too weak to be an absolute superior. I carry this with me into this life. *Greetings CuriousLord,* *It does seem like you learned about yourself in such a short period of time, which will help you in the Mastery of yourself and others.* *Thank you for responding.* *~curious~*

curiouslyseeking -> RE: Military Masters (4/4/2007 8:27:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jauntyone Greetings curious Naturally, Master is gone so I will not attempt to even speak on his behalf. However, for myself, being in the Marines has not in any way ; I guess a good word is, hindered; it has not in any way hindered my ability to be who I am with Master. melissa *Thank you, jauntyone...* *It's wonderful that it has not hindered the relationship, but I guess I'm looking for more of the more positive aspects as well.* *These questions are definitely coming from one that is military life ignorant...but making an effort to learn.* *~curious~*

curiouslyseeking -> RE: Military Masters (4/4/2007 8:30:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHugs Dear curiouslyseeking, Ladies and Gentlemen; In my mind's eyes I 'borrow' from military experiences, just as I borrow from other D/s power-authority-respect-responsibility entities, such as Imperial, Civilian and Religion as D/s structures. Four foundation pillars per se, to which any one or more helps an average individual comprehend the authority, respect and submission. Just some thoughts. Respectfully submitted for consideration, Lady Hugs *Greetings LadyHugs,* *A well-rounded perspective. Is there anything specific you can share that you "borrow" from the experience?* *Thank you for responding,* *~curious~*

curiouslyseeking -> RE: Military Masters (4/4/2007 8:34:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: hisannabelle He was used to compartmentalizing His life...He wasn't very emotional or affectionate because He'd lived alone so long, and when He was married (which was a long time ago in and of itself), He apparently didn't involved His family in the stuff He did while He was in the military. also, the nature of His work in the military lent itself to a strong desire for privacy and so He became very closed off. it's both helped us and hindered us, in some ways...it has caused me to be more independent and less codependent, like i was in my past relationships, but He has also grown a lot as far as letting me in and talking about things. edited to add: due to His rank, He was used to being over a lot of people while He was in, but i don't think that those experiences really affect the way He relates to me within our dynamic. respectfully, annabelle. *Greetings hisannabelle,* *You verbalized this well, and something I wondered about being more emotionally structured, I guess would be a good term.* *I do not want to stereotype, but it's been my brief experience that career military men's passions run deep, but quietly.* *Thank you for sharing your thoughts,* *~curious~*

curiouslyseeking -> RE: Military Masters (4/4/2007 8:36:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: damia my Master is an Army soldier, and had this to say in response: "Possibly, in as much as the military is a commanding, structured enviornment. It is possible that day-to-day operations in such an environment do influence the Master and slave. Speaking from a Master's point of view, having to take orders all day, it's nice to put the shoe on the other foot, so to speak. It's nice to be able to come home and be the one in charge, which offers a balance. By the same token, there may be soldiers or officers that have a leadership position that once they come home, like to enjoy a submissive aspect, to give up the control that they have to exercise everyday. Case in point, corporate executives who like to visit with professional dominants in order to give up control." *Greetings damia,* *My thanks to you and your Master for sharing...what he expounded on made perfect sense.* *Well wishes to you both,* *curious*

curiouslyseeking -> RE: Military Masters (4/4/2007 8:38:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sweetnurseBBW Having been a military wife for a long time I can see it goes either way. Unless someone is a CO most of their time is spent taking orders and doing what others tell them. They tell them how to dress, where to go, when to go, when to eat etc. It gives structure but I think it depends on the individuals personality to begin with. *Greetings sweetnurseBBW,* *Do you not think that the structure you express is brought into the home as well?* *Thank you,* *curious*

Slavetrainer2007 -> RE: Military Masters (4/4/2007 9:08:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord I learned that I am different from others- entirely disconcerned with orders. Higher officers often (though not always) had to address me in a manner one might deem unecessarily civil if they had hoped for results. I have not served in the military, but these lines caught my eye. This is why you couldnt get me to serve in the miltary. I handle orders and authority with the saying " you put your pants on the the same way i do, one leg at a time" meaning "what gives you the right to tell me what to do?" I have always had this problem. Tell me to do something, not going to happen, Ask me nicely and im more than likely to do it. My boss, who is also very dominate but vanilla, and i had to come to an agreement, because it caused conflicts at work. Dont tell me what to do especially if i already know what im doing, ask me. I would never make it in the military because of this, ive always said if i was drafted i would have to go straight to 4 star general or they would have to boot me out just to get rid of the headache.The harder they would try to get me to follow some overly obnoxious annoying drill sgt. the more headaches i would cause.

starshineowned -> RE: Military Masters (4/4/2007 9:55:26 PM)
Greetings..~smiles~ I think the army gave me discipline, focus, and involvement in something greater than myself at a crucial young age where entering the adult world at 18 was a chaotic time, and anything but structured. In short it kept my nose clean till I grew up some..lol. I am a dominant spirit, and taking orders from just any ole who did not set well with me but in the military..you do what you have to do, and I think that I walked away with that ability and knowledge of knowing that I can do despite my personal interest or feelings. I also learned pretty quickly that I felt more inclined to take the orders willingly from those that inspired something in me versus those that could of gotten ran over by a deuce, and I'd of cared less. I know now that it was that aura of confidence and a more steadfast dominance than my own that I was sensing. It felt right. Master was in the airforce, and though we've talked about what influences the military had on us if any..can't ofcourse speak for him. Well Wishes starshine Happy slave of Master Delvin

jauntyone -> RE: Military Masters (4/5/2007 6:28:52 AM)
quote: *It's wonderful that it has not hindered the relationship, but I guess I'm looking for more of the more positive aspects as well* Greetings curious Taking out my relationship with Master and focusing only on my own; being the child of a career military man has given me structure and protocal in life. These are things that were already in place before I enlisted myself, and before I ever came into contact with Master. Things are done in a precise way, in a certain timetable, and done right the first time [:)]; and the day to day activities of such do not change much. I love the structure that I was brought up with, and I love that it is still in place to this day. I wish you well melissa

XahleenaXkajiraX -> RE: Military Masters (4/5/2007 6:41:40 AM)
yea!! love topics like this [:D] my husband who is currently overseas in the USMC (yeahh babyy the hottesttt ones [;)]) We are working towards a M/s relationship ...(He just learned of the lifestyle about 5 or 6 months ago, still learning) but i can definately say that the Marines have changed how he Masters and is. I dated Him in HS and broke up with him becouse he was too much of a push over (haha even back then i hated weak men) never in a million years would I have ever thought that the man I had pushed aside when I was younger would be the same Man that I get weak in the knees with when He gets all Dominant "mean" with me hehe The Marine Corps as He says with His own mouth has taught Him strength and courage...He is by far the same man and is so much stronger than what he use to be, which I believe has taught Him to take charge of his own dominance he isnt afraid of the lil stubborn blond he dated in hs ... ahaha!! I very much say that the military has helped my husband with his own dominance and thus made him a better Master for me!

IrishMist -> RE: Military Masters (4/5/2007 9:28:54 AM)
I agree. There is just something about men in the military...and the Marines to be exact ( no offense to you other men in different services [:)] ) that just says woooooooooooow yummmmmmmmmmmmmy

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