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Quivver -> RE: Can you submit to a person without wanting them? (4/8/2007 4:38:15 PM)

Add me into the group that It all depends on what kind of submission I was giving.
To submit fully and unquestionably your damn right I'd have to want them.



openmindedslave -> RE: Can you submit to a person without wanting them? (4/8/2007 5:41:40 PM)

I see this as part of somes fantasys.To be thought of as a "thing" or "property". A common thread here.And taking it to another level .Have someout here had sex with someone just because they could get it .I mean they might tell you afterwards that it was the moment or they aren't their type, but they did it anyway.  I do not believe  you can get as much out of it unless you feel something for them.May not be sexual but some type of connection ..otherwise its  just a person smacking you around or tieing you up. For me , it has to be a connection to take me to the next level



sillygirl09 -> RE: Can you submit to a person without wanting them? (4/8/2007 7:16:36 PM)

I know it's possible for some but not for me... I definitely only want to submit to a person who also makes me weak in the knees with wanting them.



KuffedKitten -> RE: Can you submit to a person without wanting them? (4/8/2007 7:25:20 PM)

For myself I have submitted to another that I have not wanted in any way besides wanting to serve them in every way..from simple household tasks to sexual desires when He so chose. It has never been a sexual need or desire for me..but a deep rooted need of service to another. Of course the sexual aspect is very enjoyable for Him as well as myself in turn as I please Him..but it's not what makes it work..for me at least.

--kuffed



AquaticSub -> RE: Can you submit to a person without wanting them? (4/8/2007 7:59:55 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MissyRane

I started wondering, because of a thread in the Mistress section..there's this question "Do you want your subs to want you? "
So I started wondering..could you submit to a person without wanting them?
Personally I don't think I couldn't do it.


Depends. Could I become someone's submisisve without wanting them physically? Nope. I'll scene with someone at a party though, that's about as far as it will ever go if they can not make me want them in any way.



AquaticSub -> RE: Can you submit to a person without wanting them? (4/8/2007 8:01:52 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MissyRane

Wanting as in longing for the dominant ..doesn't have to be sexually
rephrase..could you submit to someone which you don't particularly like?

I'd have to like them a lot or be in love with them if I were to submit


Nope. If I actually don't like someone, I'm not likely to get them a Coke unless they ask really nicely or Valyraen tells me to.



junecleaver -> RE: Can you submit to a person without wanting them? (4/9/2007 11:11:11 AM)

I like to think I could accomplish anything I truly wanted, but I doubt I would have the sufficient motivation if I didn't even like the person. If my Dominant told me to, I would.  But it wouldn't be the most thrilling act of service for me personally.



daddysprop247 -> RE: Can you submit to a person without wanting them? (4/9/2007 11:19:51 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MissyRane

I started wondering, because of a thread in the Mistress section..there's this question "Do you want your subs to want you? "
So I started wondering..could you submit to a person without wanting them?
Personally I don't think I couldn't do it.


yes, i've done it all my life. my submission has never been about want or desire, it's more of an instinct, my natural reaction to someone demanding something of me.



IrishMist -> RE: Can you submit to a person without wanting them? (4/9/2007 11:22:19 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MissyRane

I started wondering, because of a thread in the Mistress section..there's this question "Do you want your subs to want you? "
So I started wondering..could you submit to a person without wanting them?
Personally I don't think I couldn't do it.

Sure you can. Look at the number of bottom who do so on a regular basis; sexual preference has nothing to do with it.



WiseCracknSadist -> RE: Can you submit to a person without wanting them? (4/9/2007 11:33:21 AM)

I think people are capable of doing anything if the right motivation is involved.



justplainjava -> RE: Can you submit to a person without wanting them? (4/9/2007 11:37:50 AM)

Greetings
to truely submit to person and i am not speaking for a one time scene, or once in a great while, but to truely submit, there has to be at least for me a connection emontial, physical for with out those two it is only going though the montions you might as well be a robot,
take care and be safe
java



Unrepentant1 -> RE: Can you submit to a person without wanting them? (4/9/2007 11:37:51 AM)

To submit to someone, I would have to worship the ground they walked on. I can not submit to anyone unless it means something, I have to know they are special and that takes time, but is worth it for me.



Mercnbeth -> RE: Can you submit to a person without wanting them? (4/9/2007 12:01:56 PM)

Can this slave submit to a person without "wanting" them?
 
Absolutely.  Can and have.
 
for this slave, it is far and away the easiest, most natural course of action when interacting in any type of relationship, financial, familial, filial, or sexually, emotionally intimate and always has been since this slave can remember.
 
Could this slave enter into an intimate relationship with one individual, accept ownership, pledge servitude and devote self solely to that relationship without wanting them?
 
Not as of yet...this slave's desire for and wanting of Master and the relationship we share has deepened and the only scenario where she would be left NOT wanting Him, is if He did not want her.



kyraofMists -> RE: Can you submit to a person without wanting them? (4/9/2007 12:14:57 PM)

I submit to my boss even though I don't like him and I think he is an idiot.  I submit to people in a lot of areas and I don't even know them, teachers, police officers,etc.

Yes, I can submit to someone without wanting or even liking them.

However, I will not be in an intimate relationship where I transfer all authority with someone that I do not like, want, love, respect, cherish or that does not have my devotion.

Knight's kyra



Bearlee -> RE: Can you submit to a person without wanting them? (4/9/2007 2:13:20 PM)

Well yes; sure.  I ‘submit’ now and again (just to stay in practice, mind you) to a play-session with one of several very experienced friends.
 
Okay, so I’m not sexually active with my pals…but just about all else is game.  I likes it cuz I get to learn about new ‘tools of torture’, etc. 
 
Besides, I’ve discovered that, when I don’t play for awhile…my pain tolerance goes way back up again!  I don’t like that part, much.
 
As you may know, I sometimes also Top…same thing applies…and I learn a lot!
 
beverly



littleone35 -> RE: Can you submit to a person without wanting them? (4/9/2007 2:21:49 PM)

Some can. I cannot submit to someone i don't like.  I have to have some kind of feeling for them.  Be it like (or in Masters case) love.  Wanting and likeing someone was necessary before i could even think of submitting  I was lucky i both liked and wanted my Master.

Matt's littleone



SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Can you submit to a person without wanting them? (4/9/2007 2:32:37 PM)

Domination does not need emotion attached to be dominatation.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_797831/mpage_1/key_domination%2Cwithout%2Cemotion/tm.htm

Ross
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Twicehappy2x -> RE: Can you submit to a person without wanting them? (4/9/2007 2:39:21 PM)

Absolutely not, the two are inextricably bound together for me.



blmtrsne -> RE: Can you submit to a person without wanting them? (4/9/2007 2:41:57 PM)

I've lent out my husband/slave to a sick girlfriend to help her out.In a way he submitted to her because I told him to.
He did a good job, so I heard. VBut he new it was only for a few weeks.





ana85 -> RE: Can you submit to a person without wanting them? (4/9/2007 3:06:21 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Twicehappy2x

Absolutely not, the two are inextricably bound together for me.


Ditto [:)]



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