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Do you... - 4/11/2007 6:30:07 PM   
D1979


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Status: offline 		Do you think that releasing your sub to someone who is more experienced than You temporarliy will give them some release and make them more succeptible to accepting Your training long term? Or is it a can of worms best to left unopened??

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RE: Do you... - 4/11/2007 6:36:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Assuming you get her back she will be perfectly trained to serve someone else.

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RE: Do you... - 4/11/2007 6:40:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		I pretty much gotta go with fuckin here (no pun intended).  Why the hell would you release her to someone else?  One can o worms coming right up!

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RE: Do you... - 4/11/2007 6:40:27 PM   
D1979


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Status: offline 		she is looking for release, not training. she wants to see her soul, with no regard to attaching. I can give it to her, but not immediately. that is My predicament. I am late in My explorations. but My explorations are becoming enthralling.

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RE: Do you... - 4/11/2007 6:42:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		She wants to see her soul?  What the Hell does that even mean?  You're 27 years old for crying out loud...how is that late?

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RE: Do you... - 4/11/2007 6:45:47 PM   
D1979


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Status: offline 		It means that we have had an experience in which I didn't realise my need for complete control, so I didn't embrace it. While I do that, I have given her permission to learn. to take, to release, and to serve Me by learning.

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RE: Do you... - 4/11/2007 6:46:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		In a word... No.

In several words... what's the point? If your sub isn't happy with/resistant to your training, what gives you the impression she'd be any happier after experiencing someone else's methods? It could just highlight to her your own shortcomings.

And who's to say "more experienced" is such a good thing? There's always the possibility that "I've done this longer" translates to "I've fucked up more often"... and you're handing over someone you should be taking care of into the hands of a serial incompetant. Wow... how she must feel treasured and adored?


That's just my gut feeling. I don't know your situation, but I can't see as how you'd benefit as a couple by handing over control, no matter how temporary.

Asking around, asking your subs opinion (if they have one, or are allowed one under your circumstances) and maybe examining your own methods to see if anything needs changing or improving would probably be a better option.

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RE: Do you... - 4/11/2007 6:47:27 PM   
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Methinks there is a hella lot more to this than her seeing her soul. Sounds more like eating the cake and having it too!

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RE: Do you... - 4/11/2007 6:48:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Doesn't make a bit of sense to me....but if it makes you happy then go for it. I just wouldn't hold my breath waiting for her to come back.

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RE: Do you... - 4/11/2007 6:49:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		So, you've already given her permission...why the question?  Um, embrace your need for full control?  And now you're going to go off and embrace that need while she sees her soul with another?  And she's going to come back to you...why?

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RE: Do you... - 4/11/2007 6:49:09 PM   
D1979


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Status: offline 		thank You for Your advice. I will do what I will do, but hearing someone else's opinion is greatly appreciated.

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RE: Do you... - 4/11/2007 6:49:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		If it's her suggestion... then there could very well be an element of "is the grass greener" to her request.

Sorry, dude... looks like you might be loosing her :o(

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RE: Do you... - 4/11/2007 6:50:53 PM   
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RE: Do you... - 4/11/2007 6:53:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: D1979

Do you think that releasing your sub to someone who is more experienced than You temporarliy will give them some release and make them more succeptible to accepting Your training long term? Or is it a can of worms best to left unopened??

thank you D


This is all going to depend on how temporary "temporary" is...and how strong your relationship is. I just lent my girl, through a formal contract, to another's household for 3 months of service. However, she and I are used to an LDR, our relationship is solid, and I'm friends with the other household and I knew that IF sex or SM happened, it wasn't going to be the focus of the service. So, you weigh your options.

My question is, why not mentor with them yourself? She can be the bottom while you get an education. Win-win.

Master Fire

< Message edited by MasterFireMaam -- 4/11/2007 6:55:00 PM >

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RE: Do you... - 4/11/2007 6:58:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank You for the best advice so far. The fact is I am just experiencing how to mentor properly, and this is a situation that I would either like to resolve, or terminate. she is Mine, it just really depends on if I want her. I am going to allow her to release some emotional pressure while I decide what is right for Me in the end. thanks again.

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RE: Do you... - 4/11/2007 7:06:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bandit25

Anytime my dear troll, anytime.

Course you KNOW what the payment is, right?


How clumsy of me!

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RE: Do you... - 4/11/2007 7:08:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ahhhhhhhhh...thank you.

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RE: Do you... - 4/11/2007 7:15:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: D1979

Thank You for the best advice so far. The fact is I am just experiencing how to mentor properly, and this is a situation that I would either like to resolve, or terminate. she is Mine, it just really depends on if I want her. I am going to allow her to release some emotional pressure while I decide what is right for Me in the end. thanks again.


You're not going to want her back either. So turn off that goddam hip hop music and go listen to one of my favorites, a classic in it's own rite David Bowie, Putting out Fire with Gasoline.

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RE: Do you... - 4/11/2007 8:08:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: D1979

Do you think that releasing your sub to someone who is more experienced than You temporarliy will give them some release and make them more succeptible to accepting Your training long term? Or is it a can of worms best to left unopened??

thank you D


While I can't answer from the point of view of an owner, I think that for me it would be a huge can of worms that just doesn't need to be opened.

< Message edited by AquaticSub -- 4/11/2007 8:10:41 PM >

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RE: Do you... - 4/11/2007 8:15:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		I may not. we will see. I am fully aware of the consequences of releasing control, even temporarily. Thank You

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