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Aswad -> RE: Abused into submission (4/13/2007 11:16:04 AM)
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ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip
People genetically predisposed to internalizing anger become depressed and submissive. Those those are genetically predisposed to directing their anger and aggressiveness outwards are more likely to become tops, doms / Dommes.
While I haven't been sexually abused as a child, I've been through a lot of things that spawned a fair bit of anger. I tend to internalize that kind of anger, yet I'm a Dom. My slave has a tendency to directing it outwards instead, and has been through a lot more than I have, yet she's been submissive as long as she can remember. She even used to tie up her barbie-dolls when she was little...
I realize you are talking about probabilities, rather than absolutes, but in my experience, there is no correlation between internalizing and externalizing anger and whether any kind of emotionally adverse experiences lead to a tendency toward dominance or submission.
There may be a different relation for sadism/masochism, but again, I'm not seeing it. Do you have any numbers, even informal small-sample ones, from a somewhat more representative population than CollarMe that we could have a look at?
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High testosterone makes people more prone to anger, hostility, physical and sexual aggression, a need to control and command. Less testosterone lead to the opposite.
This overgeneralization has a core of truth to it, but it depends a lot on personality, and I seem to recall there is a bit of a sweet-spot issue here. That is, too low or too high can both cause similar problems.
I've always had very high testosterone (I started getting male pattern hair loss by the age of 18, etc.), which changed radically due to negligent medical treatment. In the lowest valley, the lab requested that the doctor check if I was undergoing unsupervised sex reassignment hormonal therapy, because my values were close to the female norm.
Low testosterone, for me, had the effect of muscle loss (about 30%), more feminine fat distribution, severe loss of energy, more anger, more hostility, more physical agression, stronger sex-drive, erectile dysfunction, and absolutely no effects on the dominance side of things. I realize this is typical, but it illustrates the point that the effects of testosterone are not uniform.
Dominant traits appear more closely related to neurotransmitter balance, not neurohormonal balance. I would presume the same is the case for submission.
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When women are ovulating they are more likely to be attracted to high testosterone men. When they are not ovulating they are more likely to be attracted to men with les testosterone.
This does tend to be correct, although it is a matter of instinctual/animal attraction, and the extent to which this figures in attraction varies a lot between women, just like the correct use of dominant body language and such can seduce many but not all, as a remnant of the alpha/beta dynamic seen in apes.
More relevantly, though, testosterone levels affect how attracted they are to men in general, as well as sex drive; whether they're attracted to high-testosterone males in this period, might just as easily be more related to exposure, however.
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