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RE: Relocators - 4/27/2005 7:47:08 PM   
BeachMystress


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ORIGINAL: goodhouseboy

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successful, charming, attractive, gainfully employed submissively inclined men in the Montreal area, I’ll change my tune.


Lady Angelika

may i assume Ma'am?...You look for the $$$ in it all then?
You talk success and gainfully working..sounds in MY ears it is about the $$...are You pro?

just asking..

thanks
houseboy



Let me guess.. any woman who won't go out with you is a lesbian also?

Why would you EVER make such an assumption based on the fact that she has high standards for a mate? She mentioned successful, charming, attractive, gainfully employed and all you take from that is she wants money? The mind boggles.. You might as well have said she only wants fetish models because she mentioned attractive.

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RE: Relocators - 4/27/2005 7:48:57 PM   
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Let me guess.. any woman who won't go out with you is a lesbian also?

Why would you EVER make such an assumption based on the fact that she has high standards for a mate? She mentioned successful, charming, attractive, gainfully employed and all you take from that is she wants money? The mind boggles.. You might as well have said she only wants fetish models because she mentioned attractive.


This is so perfect. Go, Beach, Go!

Lily

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RE: Relocators - 4/27/2005 7:54:10 PM   
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You might as well have said she only wants fetish models because she mentioned attractive.


Actually, I want the CQ type guy ;)

*mwua Beach.

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RE: Relocators - 6/14/2005 3:05:28 PM   
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One or even five of these, ok, but I am fed up to the teeth with the number of "I will relocate to serve you" emails I get. How can someone decide, based on an online profile that they are willing to pick up and move to a totally different country to live with a woman they have never met?


i believe i answered this once, but in case i am wrong..
how can someone decide, on an online profile, willingly, wish to move, to a Woman never met, in person?
and "my" answer is; the envelope please?
ta da! it says, because i am one that is fully dedicated to the hands-on approach, and..maybe foolishly? that i am a risk taker in life. i was raised to believe if ya want something bad enough in life, ya go after it. it is sometimes worth the risk.

but hey, it's just me.
i have logged in over,......10,000 miles, looking for Ms Right.
right at this moment i am waiting til fri the 17th of june, to see if the Goddess i met is willing to still have me.
i am on a 1 week non communicate waiting....

thanks
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RE: Relocators - 6/14/2005 3:35:23 PM   
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Um HELLO ??? Oh wait that's right you're a man therefore totally clueless of what women (regardless of kink orientation) look for.



okay that just wasn't fair...not all Men are like "brain dead" Dom or sub. and uuhh you've got to understand there are alot of women that make a living off leaching off men too. not to bring up any names cause it's just not me but i've noticed SOME women want a guy to just give up their wallet....they call themselves "Financial Dommes".......I say treat them all like kids with chores..."sorry no job...no play!" lol

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RE: Relocators - 6/14/2005 3:50:50 PM   
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Lady Angelika

may i assume Ma'am?...You look for the $$$ in it all then?
You talk success and gainfully working..sounds in MY ears it is about the $$...are You pro?

just asking..

thanks
houseboy



That was completely uncalled for. If you stay around here long enough, you'd realize that LA is, highly regarded around here by many and from my reading of quite a few of her postings, deservidly so. Handing such insults won't get you to be heard in a positive light. That is if you care to be seen or heard with open mindedness in the future.

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Oh and on the subject of the Relocators. If I had a dime for every email I received of that nature, I could afford that condo in Fl, in a few months, ok maybe a quarter for every such email. But really, I think they send them out to just about every female top/domme hoping that they will get a hit and one of us will be willing to grant such a request. Stranger things have been known to happen. I personally wouldn't want someone to locate souly for the purpose of me taking them on as a sub/slave. If they were planning to move to the area and we had mutual interest, that would be fine, but, for someone to come across the globe just because they like my profile and want to be dommed. fagetaboutit.

Rosa

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RE: Relocators - 6/14/2005 7:44:33 PM   
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As a sub who is thinking about relocation much in the same way that onceburned spoke about, I'd like to chime in.

I am definitely putting my 6 month plan (well, now it's a 5 month plan) into serious action. But I agree with all the points.

I am NOT going to be moving in with my Dom. I am NOT going to be relying on him for financial support. And I am NOT going to put myself in a position where I am dependent upon him to live my life.

I have interests and passions of my own that are leading me to LA. I will also have a job set up for me in LA when I move. And, I will also probably have a place to live, as my Dom is putting out his feelers for places where I could live with my dog and another roommate, etc.

Notice that none of this involves co-dependency. I simply realize that no matter how crazy I may be about him, I want a real-life relationship and all the real-life experience that we've had so far, so good. No red flags are going off in my mind. And to have a real-life relationship, I need to be REALLY in real life close to him. But there are many other reasons for my move, and he is happy and proud that I have passions and interests that are not involving me being a doormat.

Realistically even if I *were* to be living with him right off, I would not be seeing him 24 hours a day. That's just not life. And I am a strong, driven woman with lots and lots of passions and talents with which to fill my time, have fun, live my life, and serve as well. And being service oriented, much of my submission/service takes place out in the world, fulfilling tasks and helping him in his interests (many of which are very similar to mine.)

So that's what I have to say. I think that unless you are wise about moving and you have more reasons for moving, you will be fine no matter what. There is always risk.

xo-4peas

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RE: Relocators - 6/19/2005 11:24:50 PM   
asissyforher


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and that one went down the drain....
all mouth no action. and i am not buying someone i don't know a new house..

what is with the dommes i meet on here? they all want money...real estate and whatever else.
i just had one email me today, asking me--no telling me..buy Her something from Her wish-list online to prove myself. like, i haven't even talked to Her in one email yet.


1998 and still waiting for a real domme that wants real service..permanent.!!

stress!!!!!!!!

ok
no more soapbox.
thanks


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RE: Relocators - 6/20/2005 2:44:20 AM   
ginger21


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...since when should submissives assume anything? Takes some serious moxie there.


When should anyone make an assumptions about anything? Especially one as ignorant as that.

You know what happens when you assume... You make an "ass" outta "u" and "me"...but mostly you. ^_^

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RE: Relocators - 6/20/2005 8:59:58 AM   
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This is a great topic in My opinion, and I appreciate it being brought up in here.

1. There seems to be herein some folks who list that they are willing to relocate, but then again, they drag things on over long periods of time.... those appear to be just people who are either fakes, or just have some pipe dream fantasies about being able to relocate somewhere to fantasyland.

2. There have been some I have run across that say they are willing to relocate and seem so desperate that they wish to relocate immediately. They are either desperately wanting to get the hell out of whereever they may be... OR... CAVEAT EMPTOR.... they are looking to pull a fast con game on you... asking you to pay for their travel and there may be a very good chance that you never see them.

3. Then you may find those who are not happy where they live, feeling that they would be happier if they move somewhere else. What many of those fail to realize is that when they get to where they finally agree to move to, they find they are the same person, just with a change of geographic location. Those folks need to change themselves before they change their scenery.

4. And then there are those who wish to come to the USA. Nothing new. It has been happening since the U.S. Colonial Period, whereby throughout history (including modern day history), people have crossed over to the U.S. as what used to be known as indentured servitude... contract slavery. Today, many of the Indians (from India), Middle Easterns, Hispanics, and other foreign people have found that they can 'sell' themselves into slavery (3-yr BINDING contract) to move to the U.S. and become a live-in housekeeper/domestic under BCIS (used to be INS) regs. My office does alot of this type of paperwork and assistance. It is a long process, but it is legal.

5. Then there are some folks who have had some recent trauma in their lives, such as a break-up, bad divorce, loss of a loved one, or some other emotional trauma. They may not have anybody near them to be able to find someone to comfort and guide them, so they seek to move and perhaps begin their lives anew.

Personally, I might actually enjoy an indentured servant coming to My House and serving My House (My bride, Myself, and whomever else I take in as a sub to train to become a slave). At least, this way, if I brought someone over, I would have one guarantee... that the person sponsored would be in a contractual situation whereby if s/he wanted to be released within the 3 year period, s/he would be required to immediately report to BCIS for deportation, since permission to be in the US would be based on the fulfillment of the 3-yr contractual period.

I have had a few quickie messages from female subs interested in relocating. I have entertained the thoughts of several, even through some limited flexibility. I had one with whom I communicated by telephone, whereby she appeared so desperate that she wanted to move from CA to SC right away (but of course, she didn't have the money to move). she said it would take about $350 for her to be able to drive her car here. That immediately pops up con-game in My mind, so I tested her and told her that if she really wanted to move here, I would be happy to fly out and drive back with her. Guess what??? That ended that. Apparently she conned a few others instead, and I still have My money. $350 is really not much. I have wasted $350 and more on alot of things before, but it's the principle... and one has to be cautious.

I had another one recently who was sooo very nice on her e-mails and instant messages, calling Me her Master, Sir, and telling Me that she loved Me and My bride. She/it made a grave mistake or 2, though. It sent Me a pic of itself, and then later on, sent Me 2 more pics of itself. The 2nd set of pics wasn't of the same person as the 1st set of pics. It stated that it was willing to relocate, but there were some things that really didn't ring true. One needs to be cautious.

If someone writes Me or approaches Me to become Mine, I do have some inflexible requirements. 1st, is a telephone interview within 7 days from the date of initial contact. 2nd, is a requirement that the sub seeking come to ME for a weekend or week-long visit within 30 days (or some other negotiated time frame, dependent on work, etc.), but the arrangements must be made within the 30 day period. Once I have made the decision whether to choose her to live in MY House, she shall be required to move here within 30 days from the decision being made. Now, don't misconstrue My comment here and think that I want someone to move in within 30 days... as this is not what I have stated herein. Once MY decision has been made, then I would expect a person to move in within 30 days... this is different than wanting someone to move in within 30 days from initial contact. Patience is one element wherein I am very strict.

I require a prospective sub to send Me a resume. It amazes Me that someone looking for a job that may be a temprary stepping stone in the world of work will take so much time and make such an effort to type and send in a resume, cover letter, and even fill out an application for employment, and then set aside everything else in her/his life to appear at an interview... not only on time, but show up 15-30 minutes early and sit and wait... yet that very person will state that s/he is seeking a full-time, permanent, 24/7 x 365 LTR, and then only send 1 or 2 lines, at best and sometimes just a 3 word partial sentence. And they then expect Me to give a positive response and be willing to relocate them to MY House? NFWIH ( No f***g way in hell)!

Basically, in essence, it is important to Our sanity... to Our preservation of Our decided principles and protocols, to remember Caveats in searching for subs, and to have and exemplify that very discipline Ourselves that We claim We will expect and teach Our subs... and hold back the reins on Ourselves... taking that very same medicine that We so freely give out to subs.

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RE: Relocators - 6/20/2005 11:45:16 AM   
asissyforher


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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

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I would have the SAME criteria in my search for a permanent, relationship-based submissive -- gainfully employed -- NOT because it is about the money (I am the career woman in my relationship, my husband doesn't even work anymore except for me) -- but because it shows he is grounded, responsible and can support himself.


Thank you Akasha. You are dead on.

Now goodhouseboy, you might want to look at a thread I started yesterday about all expenses paid before you start throwing around such accusations. You might look like less of an ass.

I think that having a well balanced life is paramount. I am a Pro, that is I am a professional in my field, highly regarded, successful and career oriented. I am looking for a partner that has a similar lifestyle. I'm just looking to meet a man who has it all, "my match" so to speak. An intellectual at the dinner table and a porn star in the bedroom with an overall positive outlook on life, self confidence and independence. Do I have strict criteria? Yup. Do I make any bones about it? Nope. I have a right to not make any compromises.

- LA

quote:


Now goodhouseboy, you might want to look at a thread I started yesterday about all expenses paid before you start throwing around such accusations. You might look like less of an ass.



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RE: Relocators - 6/20/2005 11:46:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: asissyforher


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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

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I would have the SAME criteria in my search for a permanent, relationship-based submissive -- gainfully employed -- NOT because it is about the money (I am the career woman in my relationship, my husband doesn't even work anymore except for me) -- but because it shows he is grounded, responsible and can support himself.


Thank you Akasha. You are dead on.

Now goodhouseboy, you might want to look at a thread I started yesterday about all expenses paid before you start throwing around such accusations. You might look like less of an ass.

I think that having a well balanced life is paramount. I am a Pro, that is I am a professional in my field, highly regarded, successful and career oriented. I am looking for a partner that has a similar lifestyle. I'm just looking to meet a man who has it all, "my match" so to speak. An intellectual at the dinner table and a porn star in the bedroom with an overall positive outlook on life, self confidence and independence. Do I have strict criteria? Yup. Do I make any bones about it? Nope. I have a right to not make any compromises.

- LA

quote:


Now goodhouseboy, you might want to look at a thread I started yesterday about all expenses paid before you start throwing around such accusations. You might look like less of an ass.



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but because it shows he is grounded, responsible and can support himself.



just for topic?...i have my own money each month...i pay my own way...disability.

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RE: Relocators - 6/20/2005 12:40:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: asissyforher
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Lady Angelika wrote that message seven weeks ago, and Collarme moved the thread during that time. Here is the current link to thread that she mentioned:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_96556/mpage_1/key_all+expenses+paid/tm.htm#96556

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RE: Relocators - 6/20/2005 2:15:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: onceburned

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ORIGINAL: asissyforher
file not found error....
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Lady Angelika wrote that message seven weeks ago, and Collarme moved the thread during that time. Here is the current link to thread that she mentioned:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_96556/mpage_1/key_all+expenses+paid/tm.htm#96556


Thanks chris! I went hunting for the link and just as I was about to post, I see your message :)

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RE: Relocators - 6/20/2005 2:16:20 PM   
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just for topic?...i have my own money each month...i pay my own way...disability.


I don't see what this has to do with relocation...

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RE: Relocators--$$$$$ - 6/20/2005 2:31:26 PM   
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i answered that post.

i gave $50,000 to my 1st domme out of honor and dedication to make HER happy.

my answer is no.


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RE: Relocators - 6/20/2005 2:33:43 PM   
asissyforher


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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

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just for topic?...i have my own money each month...i pay my own way...disability.


I don't see what this has to do with relocation...

- LA



you do not see what money has to do with it?
every domme wants $$.......no one wants a free ride from a slave. so i hand over ALL my money .....every dime.
my 1st got $50k from me.


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RE: Relocators - 6/20/2005 3:44:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: asissyforher
so i hand over ALL my money .....every dime.
my 1st got $50k from me.


I can't imagine turning over my finances to anyone unless I knew them very well and we had a strong relationship. If I were to relocate for someone, I think I would want to manage my own money - live separately, work to pay my expenses - and ease into the relationship.

I simply wouldn't be comfortable deep diving into a relationship at the start.

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RE: Relocators - 6/20/2005 3:54:11 PM   
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I would say relocating to the US, which is in its most anal phase in history, is very difficult, but not impossible. Many years ago I had a couple immigrate from England. He had lots of money, we formed a partnership and the company sponsored him. They were wonderful submissives. Give me a public school boy and a sub British girl and I would be happy as a pig in a wallow.

I have had other men come to relocate to serve one of my switches. They came with a pension, full health care and a desire to serve which was quite spectacular. I have had otehrs who came as total failures in life, but a truly deep desire to serve and 'pay their way' in service. The food they ate and the blanket they slept under was a very small price to pay for the service and simplicity I got in my life.

I love ironed shirts, you think *I* am ironing them!?!?!? Are you out of your mind? The price of a laundry is higher than food for a sub, who dusts, drives and performs a whole raft of services I love to be on the receiving end of.

Now, I have had more than a few of the odd 'subs' from China to Philippines who claimed to be sub. I said I would go and inspect them, test them and see exactly how submissive they were. Since I like traveling and have lived many years in the orient, so I see these as a vacation with a plus. Some of them have been quite sincere.

Now I know there are tons and tons of men who are just failing to make it in the world. They ache to serve and to find a warm place to live and scraps off the floor. I do not see these as any different than the girl growing up in poverty who is willing to exchange her body, sex and companionship to some older well to do man for a more secure life.

I can tell you are ALL going to go all PC on me, but I have seen a number of these relationships work to the mutal benefit. Before any of you speaks a damned word about these women, go live in a hut made from bamboo with a cocnut frond roof and 900 calories of a low protien diet to live on for years before you utter a word. Not all of us are self starters.

We are all out there just trying to get through life. In general we have governments who are leeches which have gotten guns and out of control. I would say these men in many cases are desperate. Many are cons, many are sincere and most ARE clueless as to what it takes to immigrate to another country.

I know you get these letters day in and day out, so you have decided to turn inhumane. I am sure it is incredibly difficult to speak to each person as an indiviual. Life's a bitch. We all know this.

Let's remember for whatever reason, you decided to pick up the whip and beat a bit of ass. Quit pissing and moaning you are surrounded by clueless whimps.

Christ 98% of the "doms" writing to sub women are cluless assholes too. And they are shitting in the stream we actual doms swim in.

Float downstream. Be thankful for what you do have. After all 98% of the world does not have a computer to GET these annoying mails on.

what me have an attitude?

Zip

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RE: Relocators - 6/20/2005 6:54:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: asissyforher


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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

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just for topic?...i have my own money each month...i pay my own way...disability.


I don't see what this has to do with relocation...

- LA



you do not see what money has to do with it?
every domme wants $$.......no one wants a free ride from a slave. so i hand over ALL my money .....every dime.
my 1st got $50k from me.



Watch those generalisations asissyforher. I actually had a sub who was a multimillionaire and the most I ever let him buy me was dinner. In fact, his money was no good to me. Stop trying to lump us all into the same pile. It's pretty insulting.

- LA


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