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Twicehappy2x -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/13/2007 4:51:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 found the post making reference to you if I am correct.... http://www.collarchat.com/m_428553/mpage_2/key_wack%252Cjob/tm.htm#430659 Look harder, that is but a recent one. Try just plain old twicehappy, that will give you at least a years worth, including quite a few from folks who have known me for 20+ years.

PlayfulOne -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/13/2007 4:51:44 AM)
attention susan, his empty life needs the attention and we have already given him to much. K

SusanofO -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/13/2007 4:53:17 AM)
SirDiscipliner69: It just strikes me as a waste of time for you, that's all. It is beyond the notion of "provoking" as a discussion topic, IMO. But good luck with it, if it's what you want. - Susan

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 4:53:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PoeticPrincess Absolutely agree that cheating and lying do not work well for me, It doesn't work for many either...but I can guarentee you that your "faithful" in a great many cases will think with his little head before he does with his big head.. Mnay have found that out. and the lovely thing about BDSM is that we are all being ourselves, in truth being outside of the normal lying cheating dissembling masses who cannot address their needs. The ugly thing is that those that claim to be open minded are just a vile as concervative rightwingers...as demonstrated here time and time again...the hypocracy is very sad and speaks volumes... I feel sorry for vanillas who have cheating BDSM husbands. Where is their courage? WHY just vanillias? Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/13/2007 4:55:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SusanofO SirDiscipliner69: It just strikes me as a waste of time for you, that's all. It is beyond provoking discussion, IMO. But good luck with it, if it's what you want. Some people have too much time on their hands and they can not understand the concept of discussion without personal insults. It shows how limited they are and how socially and morally bankrupt they are. Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/13/2007 4:57:39 AM)
was refering to the words in yellow

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/13/2007 5:01:37 AM)
Ever notice how they juggle the times they can see you with the kids coming and going to school? Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SusanofO -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/13/2007 5:01:45 AM)
*SirDiscipliner69*: It could also mean they simply disagree with you, and they've read a thread topic almost exactly like this on many, many other occasions. Of all the topics you could possibly choose, I'd think it would be obvious to you, that this one might provoke the most intense responses. Again I don't buy for one minute, that you didn't already know that. But good luck with it. I personally think morally judging someone's realtionship motives is Not my personal business, as long as they are not involving me personally, and I'll leave it at that, as far as a personal comment on the topic. - Susan

PlayfulOne -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/13/2007 5:02:18 AM)
I feel sorry for you. You seem to have such an empty life that you beg for whatever attention you can get. It is painful to be so lonely and desperate. Have you tried counseling? K

MyMasterStephen -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 5:06:42 AM)
I would not consider going with someone who was married for three main reasons... 1) I am looking for an ongoing and settled relationship. But even if I weren't, 2) I would not want to be in an informal relationship with someone who was lying to and deceiving someone to whom they had made a commitment, and 3) I feel it morally wrong to in any way encourage or facilitate someone to cheat and deceive. If someone isn't getting what they need in a relationship, then they should leave that relationship and find another one that DOES satisfy them. If they are locked into their current relationship financially or with children, then they are in a tough position. Unfortunately we cannot all have everything that we want, and sometimes sacrifices have to be made. If they cannot talk to their Significant Other, then they are in a very unhappy situation. Commitment, and the guts and tenacity to abide by one's commitments, are disappearing qualities. To the detriment of all of us.

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/13/2007 5:06:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PlayfulOne I feel sorry for you. You seem to have such an empty life that you beg for whatever attention you can get. It is painful to be so lonely and desperate. Have you tried counseling? I just thought of a story that you and a few others here flaming reminded Me of... Frank was excited about his new rifle and decided to try bear hunting. He spotted a small brown bear and shot it. Right after, there was a tap on his shoulder and he turned around to see a big black bear. The black bear said, "That was my cousin and you've got two choices. Either I maul you to death or we have sex." After considering briefly, Frank decided to concede to the latter. Even though he felt sore for two weeks, Frank soon recovered and vowed revenge. He headed out on another trip where he found the black bear and shot it. Right after, there was another tap on his shoulder. This time a huge grizzly bear stood right next to him. The grizzly said, "That was a big mistake, Frank. That was my cousin and you've got two choices. Either I maul you to death or we have rough sex." Again, Frank thought it was better to cooperate. Although he survived, it took several months before Frank finally recovered. Outraged he headed back to the woods, managed to track down the grizzly and shot it. He felt sweet revenge, but then, there was a tap on his shoulder. He turned around to find a giant polar bear standing there. The polar bear looked at him very sadly and said, "Admit it, Frank -- You don't come here for the hunting, do you?" [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

PlayfulOne -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/13/2007 5:11:40 AM)
Alas that story fits you well. You need the attention no matter how you get it. Empty lives are like that Maybe we can get a group hug together and help you though your day I truly feel sorry for you., but thats what playing with married people gets you. Alone with too much time on your hands to have your troubles play out in your mind. Somewhere around here is a list of kink friendly therapist. I am sure one of them can help you. K

SusanofO -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 5:12:09 AM)
Didn't we just do this topic last week? (Or was it yesterday?) In any case, it wore me out then, or I'd particpate with more verve (I would). Somehow, the following phrase came into my memory just now, though, for some reason: *"A man convinced against his will, is of the same opinion still".* Who said that? I forget..it was some famous dead person, though. Oscar Wilde, maybe? Anyway, I thought it was rather a "deep thought" (and applicable here on this thread, and to this topic, too). - Susan

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 5:12:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MyMasterStephen I would not consider going with someone who was married for three main reasons... 1) I am looking for an ongoing and settled relationship. But even if I weren't, Good reason...but it is possible to dominate without emotion..... 2) I would not want to be in an informal relationship with someone who was lying to and deceiving someone to whom they had made a commitment, and Again...good values....and wise decisions... 3) I feel it morally wrong to in any way encourage or facilitate someone to cheat and deceive. No more so if they want it..it is not entrapment...half of the people on here are I would guess.... If someone isn't getting what they need in a relationship, then they should leave that relationship and find another one that DOES satisfy them. My personal knowledge and experience is they are finacncially and materialistically well off but the spark is no longer there... If they are locked into their current relationship financially or with children, then they are in a tough position. This is also some cases too...yet other women help aid and conceal their friends plights Unfortunately we cannot all have everything that we want, and sometimes sacrifices have to be made. If they cannot talk to their Significant Other, then they are in a very unhappy situation. Very true..sometimes things change... Commitment, and the guts and tenacity to abide by one's commitments, are disappearing qualities. To the detriment of all of us. Thank you for your intelligent insight Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/13/2007 5:17:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SusanofO *SirDiscipliner69: It could also mean they simply disagree with you, and by all means do...but do not be vile...it does not give a right to flame now does it?* and they've read a thread topic almost exactly like this on many, many other occasions. Not so...just came to Me this morning...and even if it were true it does not excuse the behaviour Of all the topics you could possibly choose, I'd think it would be obvious to you, that this one might provoke the most intense responses. Well let's just talk about Nicole's dna or imus...or something as equally innane Again I don't buy for one minute, Again that is your perception that you didn't already know that. But good luck with it. I personally think morally judging someone's realtionship motives is Not my personal business, as long as they are not involving me personally, and I'll leave it at that, as far as a personal comment on the topic. Thank you for your response Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 5:19:57 AM)
I think your profile is well thought out.... This is a thinking person's relationship and the mindset is very important.... Nice to see a well thought out insight Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

MyMasterStephen -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 5:21:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 quote: ORIGINAL: MyMasterStephen I would not consider going with someone who was married for three main reasons... 1) I am looking for an ongoing and settled relationship. But even if I weren't, Good reason...but it is possible to dominate without emotion..... Not true, except for those who have trouble establishing emotional relationships. To dominate effectively there must be a mental connection, which permits understanding and trust. Without trust nothing is possible. 2) I would not want to be in an informal relationship with someone who was lying to and deceiving someone to whom they had made a commitment, and Again...good values....and wise decisions... Thank you. 3) I feel it morally wrong to in any way encourage or facilitate someone to cheat and deceive. No more so if they want it..it is not entrapment...half of the people on here are I would guess.... Just because someone wants something does not mean they should either have it, be provided with it, or be encouraged to seek it. If someone isn't getting what they need in a relationship, then they should leave that relationship and find another one that DOES satisfy them. My personal knowledge and experience is they are finacncially and materialistically well off but the spark is no longer there... Then end the relationship and stop lying. If they are locked into their current relationship financially or with children, then they are in a tough position. This is also some cases too...yet other women help aid and conceal their friends plights Again, just because it happens doesn't make it right. By all means "cover" for someone's minor offences, but to cospire with them to hide a major wrongdoing is itself wrong. Unfortunately we cannot all have everything that we want, and sometimes sacrifices have to be made. If they cannot talk to their Significant Other, then they are in a very unhappy situation. Very true..sometimes things change... Commitment, and the guts and tenacity to abide by one's commitments, are disappearing qualities. To the detriment of all of us. Thank you for your intelligent insight Thank YOU for your measured response. Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SusanofO -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 5:26:53 AM)
SirDiscipliner69: Auto-disagreement w/people, and placing heavy-duty value-judgments on their responses, is about as valuable in provoking open-minded discussion (on any topic) as is sucking all of the air out of a room, so nobody can breathe in it, with a vacuum-cleaner hose, IMO. But good luck. - Susan

redsky -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 5:27:15 AM)
i havent read all the comments on this thread so excuse me if what i say has already been commented! i find it quite unsettling that peoples views on this thread seem to be mostly black & white. what about the grey areas? i would not leave my husband as he is disabled & totally dependant on me (but i also couldnt break his pride & heart by telling him my desire to submit) i have children who adore their daddy & sacrifice my own desires for their sakes. i love my husband alot & dont have the desire to leave but he does not share nor understands NOR wants to accept how i crave the D's life.... these are just a few examples of reasons a 'female' sub may be married & searching have a nice day Y/yall!

SusanofO -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 5:28:38 AM)
redsky: Yes (I agree. "Gray areas" undoubtedly exist.) Last week's discussion on this is all coming back to me now...Ahem.[:)] This last comment not intended for you, m'dear. - Susan

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