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RE: will I ever trust a man again - 4/28/2005 6:27:31 AM   
ElektraUkM


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Hello darkprincess21. Welcome to the boards. I'm really sorry you have had to go through all that at such an early age, but I'm so glad to see you posting and asking for support, and being as strong as you can about it all. That's all really great, and you should be really proud of yourself for getting as far as you have.

I can't really answer many of your questions, but I can tell you my experience. Three years ago I was in an abusive relationship. When that ended I didn't think I would EVER trust anyone again. Three years on, and I'm with the kindest, most considerate, intelligent and loving man I've ever met. I never thought that would happen, and I didn't make a conscious plan to get here... but I just faced every hurdle/oppostunity as it came up... and here I am. Things heal in time. The best of luck with all the pain and stuff and growing and changing that you'll go through... it is worth it 'in the end' though it feels so hard now.

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RE: will I ever trust a man again - 5/2/2005 4:36:09 AM   
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First off I want to apologize to everyone for taking this long to respond. I've had a really long couple of days at work. I just want to say that I have made the decision to not take things so seriously. I figure that the past is just that....the past. I'm going to move forward with my life and make every effort possible to lighten up and take it easy. I think of it this way, I can move on with things, I didnt do any wrong to anyone so why have I been holding onto all this excess. The best thing I can do right now is focus on myself and be happy just being myself. Thank you all for the wonderful advice, I deeply appreciate it. Much love, Katy




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RE: will I ever trust a man again - 5/2/2005 6:48:39 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MsMacComb

darkprincess21,
In many cases for some people "talk therapy" is useful. Not so much that the councilor actually does anything for you but the person often figures things out for themself. Over time by hearing their problems and possible solutions coming out of their own mouth, they are able to fix, decide or resolve issues on their own. Oddly enough hearing it out loud is sometimes not the same as "hearing" it inside their head, so to speak.
I'm not suggesting that you could or would benefit from this. Just trying to point out that the fact they dont understand and probably never will is not the main issue. If on an off chance it did help, even if its you fixing yourself, it was worth it. The point is to try to have as much of a happy productive and useful life as possible. How you achieve that is somewhat irrelevant. Anyway, good luck and I'm sure there are many people here who would be willing to help if they could, even just to listen (myself included).



I agree here with MsMacComb and with darkangel, first off let me tell you I lost my biological mom when I was 2, and gained a stepmom when I was 3, Lost my dad emotionally when my mom died, by this I mean he was in the home but more like a visitor and not a parent. The stepmom by todays standards was abusive, locking I and my two sisters in closets, extreme punishments, bed early at night like 6pm, we did all the housecleaning growing up, those kind of things. But anyway, when I became an adult, I was looking for the love and exceptance that I did not get at home and ended up having my oldest and my twins outside of marriage, ended uup marrying the father of my twins and having another child, the man was on the outward appearance a wonderful man, but he was a jykle and hyde type of personality, I ended up filing for divorce to keep my children safe from his abuse, and before the divorce was final he died, putting me in financial ruin, with 4 teenage boys to raise and no real support system to speak of. I say all this because of a loving woman who was my youngest ones teachers aide at school, and turned out to be my would be pasters wife, reached out and nurtured me. She saw the hurt and damaged spirit and she did not judge or pressure me. She talked and held me when I needed to cry. Then I met her husband and their very special son who has downsyndrome, and my world began to heal. Both she and her husband where there when I was angry and hurt and needed someone to talk to, the special son was given the beautiful gift of hugging and loving unconditionally, and the most infectious laugh a person could ever hear, between their love and couseling and support my world started to become right again, I did see councelors up to that pt to no help, but then was connected to a christian group of councelors who more or less did talk counceling and never pushed beyound what I felt comfortable with, and as I did talk yes began to see my worth and also some of the solutions to my problems and who I was. I too suffer from depression and will probably be on meds my whole life for them, as part of the depression is a seasonal disorder, I am a sunworshipper and if that sun doesn't shine for a few days I have problems, But anyway my pt is, talk therapy can be helpful, (in someways you have started just by sharing here) finding mature loveing, excepting and nonjudgemental support system that you can turn to when your world starts rocking out of control, we all get some rocking, but sometimes it rocks so hard you feel like you are going to fall over the side of the boat so to say, that is when you need someone to hold onto to keep from going over the side. And you have to want to trust and to heal emotionally for it to work, read alot. Read books from people who have been knocked down and gotten up, people who have had very horrible lives and found ways and innerstrength to go on, they have written books about them and grew just from the sharing. Find out who you are, like the strengths you have in yourself, and those you don't work on to make better, noticed I said better not perfect, cause some things will always be very tender scars. And it was said, don't look for anyone right now, first become your best friend, grow to love yourself first, you do have strengths and gifts and talents that can be used to make your life much better, when you reconize them, build on them and gain confidence in yourself then you can be appreciated by the right man in your life even if he is a Dom, he will see this in you and it will be what attracts him to you, and will make your relationship grow. I wish you well on your journey of self discovery and if I can be that shoulder to cry on, you can either reach me on collarme as subcheryl or in yahoo at [email protected] would be glad to listen. Take care and good travels to you.......

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RE: will I ever trust a man again - 5/2/2005 8:56:25 AM   
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i haven't had the time to go through this whole thread, sorry....but just wanted to make a quick comment....i admire your maturity level at such an early age. You've gone through a lot and i agree, counselors don't always help, i have gone to a few myself and ended up feeling extremely frustrated because they totally did not understand me at all....sometimes a good friend or even a forum such as this where you can vent out all your problems really helps.

btw, this post is meant for the OP

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RE: will I ever trust a man again - 5/2/2005 10:36:31 PM   
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This is an interesting topic and I have read some very good insight here. Yes, katy, you seem like a person who has developed alot of baggage at a young age. The trinity within you is simply not in equilibrium as you lack that important balance between Mind, Body, Spirit that Wwe all need in order to truly be happy. And although happiness comes from within, Wwe must also give credit to Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, as well.

Although our basic needs (food, clothing, shelter) are at the primal substance of our lives, Wwe need much more than just that... as even dogs and cats require attention and recognition, though they can function just at the basic levels of mere existence, and I feel that this is where you are trying to go, katy... that you realize that need of yours for having a sense of belonging... a sense of true friendship with someone or some people... a sense of finding that person or persons with whom you can trust enough to open your very essence to him, her, them.

In so doing, you have found yourself in relationship(s) that have been disappointingly cruel to those needs of yours with regard to being able to open your soul without fear of being crushed and discarded. Thereby, these experiences from within have created a sense of distrust... of despair in the thoughts of the human prospect, and though it is very easy to say "do not despair" and "not everyone is like that", the inductive and deductive reasoning from within feels that experiential empiricism whereby 'crow 1 is black, crow 2 is black, crow 3 is black..... therefore all crows are black. And perhaps one day, you end up seeing an albino raccoon or skunk... or crow.

Hopefully, that one day will come soon for you and then you will once again renew your confidence in the human prospect, unless you develop the unyielding negativity likened to Robert Heilbroner.

Best Regards,

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RE: will I ever trust a man again - 5/3/2005 9:58:53 AM   
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sent you a private message, Katy....

It takes a lot of guts to stand up here and talk about things like this. I'm amazed seeing the number of people who are stepping forward. I doubt I'd ever do it, it's not exactly my style, but I wanted to say thank you to some of the people who wrote to Katy, because it's advice I can use myself, as a fellow troubled young'un. So thanks

Sincerely,
Minx

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RE: will I ever trust a man again - 5/3/2005 1:49:14 PM   
darkprincess21


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I appreciate all the e-mails and support that I have recieved :) I have a question, When I post on the boards how do I change my mood or whatever, I'm not feeling vanilla so how come it says I am and why cant I figure out how to change it. I'm confused.

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RE: will I ever trust a man again - 5/3/2005 2:22:07 PM   
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It changes based on the number of posts that you have. It changes at 25, 50 and so on

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RE: will I ever trust a man again - 5/4/2005 1:23:05 AM   
darkprincess21


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Ahhh, I see. Well I'm going to have to post more then. TY

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RE: will I ever trust a man again - 5/4/2005 11:12:22 AM   
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you have been through alot....the best thing to do is realize you need some help...thats the first step to getting real healing.....also talking about it is the best thing without judgement from people.
maybe take your time away from dating and fun stuff with friends and just do what makes you feel good.....alot of good and people in this world..here is a question for you to think about...
what do you want in a future for yourself?
once you work on you, then branch out and make a lsit of what you deseve and what is not for you.
good luck

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RE: will I ever trust a man again - 5/5/2005 9:47:30 PM   
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quote:

I dont want to be hurt again and I'm not sure whether just leaving this lifestyle alone would help with that(I somehow doubt it). I just miss having someone there to have fun with, someone I can talk to and who really


I'm a survior of abuse. My late husband was alcholic and verbally abusive. Later he turned to physical abuse. I was damned if I was going to just stand there and take it, I fought back. I think that's how I ended up more dominant than I ever have been.

It's been almost 10 years now. I've healed a lot, but I still have more healing to do. And I still don't trust men as far as I could throw one, and that isn't far at all.
The best self therapy I've found is talking online with others who've been through something simular.

They say all men aren't the same, but so far I've not found a guy that wasn't cookie cutter just like the rest. (no offence guys) I guess I just don't have luck with men. Perhaps that's why I'm now a Domme.

Just hang in there, keep searching, talking, eventually you'll find out what you want to do. Also, a diary really helps. I find writing things down helps me a lot.

If you'd like to chat via email or chat program, just let me know. :)

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RE: will I ever trust a man again - 5/9/2005 8:50:06 PM   
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i understand what you have said about counselor, BUT, honey, trust me on this, you will never deal with your past unless you face it, and when you do, you will need some professional help. i have been abused in relationships and am going through my own crap right now, and the first thing tomorrow i am going to do is call my therapist and make an appointment. shop around, you will be surprised. mine is much much older, near 70 and she is the most understanding easy going person, i can tell her anything without being judged, even about the D/s relationship. i once saw somewhere a list of lifestyle friendly professionals, doctors, counselors, if anyone reads this and knows what i am talking about and where it is, please post it for katy. might have been on castlerealm, but i don't remember, good luck

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RE: will I ever trust a man again - 5/9/2005 11:39:39 PM   
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Yes, be sure to find a therapist that you like, they really aren't all the same. Most, however, are generally pretty open minded and won't try to burn you at the stake for alt lifestyles. And there is a difference between working through your past, which is healthy, and ignoring it, which isn't. At there is even the posobility that at different times, something you thought you had dealt with (or even dealt with at the time) will come up again, in a different way.

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RE: will I ever trust a man again - 5/10/2005 3:02:42 PM   
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If you still can't stand the idea of going to a therapist, which is a difficulty for me as well, then at least chatting about it with someone you really trust can help some. Venting to someone who won't judge your views is one of the best therapies I've found.

I am raising an Autistic child on my own. If it wasn't for the internet and chatting with others whom are going through the same, I would have broke down a long time ago.

But please don't just let it sit inside and fester. Like the others here have said, find someone you like and can trust. Talk about it, get it out, write about it. That will help start the healing process. Healing takes a long time, that's for sure, but the sooner one gets started the better.

Like I said, you're more than welcome to message me sometime and we can chat if you like. I've got a good listening ear I'm told. :)

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RE: will I ever trust a man again - 5/11/2005 9:29:51 AM   
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EXCELLENT dark~angel!!

i just reposted your advice to another who is struggling wih trust isues

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RE: will I ever trust a man again - 5/11/2005 9:47:01 AM   
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you may do well to seek counseling or you may otherwise have to get a very large wagon to carry all that baggage with you whereever you go. Searching for a good counselor is like searching for a good sub or Dom/me... you have to shop around some until you can find the one that you can feel comfortable with. Once you have that, you can begin to learn how to begin to eliminate those bags little by little... but you have to remember that you didn't get all the baggage at once, but rather over a processive period of time, therefore, it will take some time and effort to clear up the baggage.

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