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RE: Is our past who we are today and will be tomorrow - 4/18/2007 9:35:49 AM

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My answer is that deep rooted change, tho' possible, is not easy and will not occur in a short time period.

I think that many people simply dont know who they are or what they really want or how to achieve it.

If I am right, it is hardly likely that successful change will occur for such people.

The basic question to be asked is... am I really living in a manner acceptable to myself ? I mean in ones own behaviour patterns.

A deceptively simple question that IMO is not always honestly answered due to distortions imposed by that devious little Devil....ego.

Agreed and agreed and agreed lol

There is nothing more voracious than trying to beat what has become tradition either through habit or belief. That and what is even worse is when people have no clue what truly exists to be had often settling for what they "think" and have come to believe thay "can" have rather than what can be had. This is especially true when we talk about personal wealth, no one knows or understands how it is being taken away from us and we settle for the table scraps of the wealthy rather than enforcing our own right to wealth and the pursuit of happiness.

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RE: Is our past who we are today and will be tomorrow - 4/18/2007 10:10:25 AM

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i smoked for well over 10 years and then quit and continued by deprogramming myself, i can be around smokers without any urge to smoke what so ever nor do i ever reach for a cigarette or have cravings. Quitting is not enough if you want to free yourself of anything you have to follow through with deprogramming. He may want to see a hypnotist or maybe he is unaware that this can be done....

Real - Thanks for your reference. My dad is 83, at at this point would require a loud shouting hypnotist. Fortunately he can draw upon his Italian will and stubbornness to offset the cravings.

But if points out how all the references given to the cure of symptoms must be perceived as change. Nothing about the person changed. A symptom was displaced. The nature of the person was able to identify and compartmentalize the symptom and change it, they didn't change the person.

A person may be able to reason a cause and effect and put into the equation of decision a "sub-program" which runs when the desire to be avoided arises. The person didn't change the thought process, or symptom, changed.

Consider addiction. It is now accepted that there is such a thing as an additive personality. The very fact that society accepts this concept enables people to excuse their addiction. When alcoholism, drug addiction, obesity went from self abusive practices to diseases; they became boom industries for drug companies and wasted government spending. How nice is it to be able to say you have a disease versus a personal weakness or bad habit?

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RE: Is our past who we are today and will be tomorrow - 4/18/2007 10:26:22 AM

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I think it really comes down to the realization the one is living contrary to there nature. "To ones self be true" I have not been true to myself, and allowed myself to compromise in order to save something that I thought was worth more than anything else in the world. It turns out I was undervaluing myself in that equation. I recently decided I could not longer compromise. I am in the process of making changes to my environment to ensure that I can continue this journey back to my true nature.

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RE: Is our past who we are today and will be tomorrow - 4/18/2007 12:19:00 PM

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While certain ascpects of my life has been changed, and some continue to change...i'm still the same person I was at the age of 10. My values and outlook on life and the people in it have not changed. What makes me me...has never changed. I honestly don't believe a person can change that part of themself...just can change certain things done.

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