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RE: Getting back to the topic - 5/6/2009 8:43:55 AM   
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Thread Synopsis:  The zombiefied thread shambled around causing severe "thread bloat" and eating the brains of all those participants who were unfortunate enough to stumble upon it...

Recommendation:  The thread should be put on a serious weight control diet of Zero (0) posts for the next two years.  It should be noted that this is only a temporary solution as the "Some Clown" virus infects these boards and it is likely that this thread will walk again after an inevitable encounter with Some Clown.




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RE: Weight Control - 5/6/2009 9:56:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hello Goddess Onyx,

I agree with Cloudboy's coment "low impact cadio " I think what you required of him was beyond his capability..infact even dangerous. his resistence wasn't being intentional but a gut warning that this could infact be a life-threatening scenario.

I mean..can You realistically invision, someone overweight plowing away at a high-sweat workout? This could lead to a heart attack and I would bet, good chances are ,a personal trainer would require approval from his doctor before accepting him. In all likely-hood probably offer the same advise before accepting him et al.

What's important to understand is a Dominant is allowed to recognize and address their own mistake/'s and I think You just bite off a bit more then what he could chew. First things first...substantiate a holistic diet. Get him down to weight that doesn't propose a health threat and then work towards toning-up what's left. 

I suggest a re-proposal. Re-tract Your former request and re-disignate it within resonable terms.

I think it's great that You wish to see your sub/slave Healthy..but it's a means to a goal. The key is not necessarily the goal itself but the prosess by which one get's there.- as a lifestyle.

Personally, I would keep him..begin with breaking poor habbit's..such as a bad diet..eating before bed..a restriction on intake, etc. etc.


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RE: Getting back to the topic - 5/6/2009 11:09:11 AM   
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RE: Getting back to the topic - 5/6/2009 11:12:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, I'm blinded by excitement or something.  When I'm clicking on the link to this thread, it has become "Getting Back On Topic."  I think the Mods are having fun.


And, ffs, please quite addressing people who said something two years ago. 




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RE: Weight Control - 5/6/2009 11:49:01 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: OnyxGoddess

I haven't seen this one so I'm tossing it out there.  I have a sub that is fine in every way save for one...he is a little on the "heavy" side.  While this doesn't bother me it is a health issue and I told him I would put him on a work out program with a personal trainer.  He got a little miffed.  He's obedient in every other manner save this one....very resistant.  I was going to push it further but feel I shouldn't have to and so I was going to drop him.  I have reserved doing anything to get opinions from mistresses out there.  Thanx.
 


I'd talk to him about it, find out what's going on. he obviously wants to serve you, as you're happy with him in all other areas. Sometimes we have to push a bit and sometimes it's ourselves we have to push.

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RE: Weight Control - 5/7/2009 4:47:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is a funny topic.  So many "subs" refuse to obey when it comes to food or exercise.  A Mistress has every right to tell me I have to stay in shape or dress a certain way or maintain certain grooming habits.

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RE: Weight Control - 5/7/2009 6:03:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		What about the leg-shaving issue?  That could sort 'the men from the boys'   I could handle it - but I think I'd want to swap shorts for track bottoms on gym-visits afterwards.

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RE: Weight Control - 5/7/2009 6:50:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think staying in shape and being groomed are essentially signs of being healthy and valuing your health. I'm not talking about being model thin, just being in an acceptable range, feeling and being healthy, that range can vary widely from person to person due to genetics, metabolism, etc.

So a domme encouraging her subs to stay healthy is a good thing, the only issue I would have with this is if the domme herself is obese - not for medical reasons but for "who ate all the pies" reasons - because somebody who doesn't have her own eating under control and shows so little self-respect that she lets herself go completely, how on earth can that person be expected to exercise control over somebody else? It would seem hypocritical to me a bit like junkie telling somebody who occasionally takes an aspirin that the person has a drug problem and should stop....

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RE: Weight Control - 5/7/2009 7:03:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		She could exercise control over him, but not have authority over him, I'd say.

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Weight Control - 5/7/2009 7:31:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry LadyPact, that was my fault. I messed up when I replied. I can't figure out how to change it back.

Peon, as to the leg shaving, they can just claim to be doing it for athletic purposes, if they're even asked. It's very common among bicyclists and swimmers, for example.

LadyConstanza, even if the Domme is overweight, I still think she has the right to expect her partner to be healthy. It's just like a parent can still insist that their Um eat properly, even if they are overweight themselves. Being fat is just one aspect, it doesn't necessarily reflect on the person's general self-control or willpower, IMHO. I tend to have the opposite problem, and lose a lot of weight very quickly if it is hot, I get sick, or I get stressed out. Last summer, when I was at a gymnastics competition for 4 days, I lost 11 pounds, and it took 5 months to put it back on.

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RE: Weight Control - 5/7/2009 7:58:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Of course she has the right to expect her partner to be healthy and I am seriously not a weight nazi, but the idea that an obese person (again, due to overeating and not a medical condition and I am talking obese not a bit pudgy) would tell a person who is not overweight to lose 10 lbs, it seems a bit like "Do as I say, don't do as I do". I find it hard to respect people who don't seem to respect themselves, but that's just me...

Sure parents can try and make their Um eat healthy, but if they are leading by bad example, it's possibly going to backfire (unless the Um say "Hell, I never ever want to end up looking like my folks")

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RE: Weight Control - 5/7/2009 8:16:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		*shrugs* In my last relationship, my Dom, who was a bit chubby, did want me to lose about 10 pounds (toward the beginning of our relationship). It wasn't that he had a problem with my figure, it was more of a "Ooh, new toy, what can I make it do?" thing. We decided not to pursue weight control, for the reasons I stated above, but his weight was irrelevant to whether or not it was something I was willing to do. If he wanted to make a bigger change than 10 or 15 pounds (which *would* have pushed me into the the unhealthy range), I would not have been willing to do it. I'm not sure how I would have felt if I were significantly overweight - it just hasn't been an issue for me so far. For me, it was not a big deal or a limit, but I did need to inform him of the ramifications.

In the relationships with other men, including my submissive of 5 years, I was a healthy weight, so that wasn't an issue, but I don't know if their decision to ask for my help with their exercise and eating habits had anything to do with my size, just that they were frustrated with their own.

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RE: Weight Control - 5/7/2009 9:40:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		FR - a man needs to have his issues sorted before I'll take him on.  I don't need any more projects in my life, so I'm not planning diets, developing exercise regimens, or checking to see if he's taken his vitamins that day.  There's no incentive for me to take on someone who makes my life more complicated - he's supposed to be making it easier.

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RE: Weight Control - 5/7/2009 9:43:38 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Venatrix

FR - a man needs to have his issues sorted before I'll take him on.  I don't need any more projects in my life, so I'm not planning diets, developing exercise regimens, or checking to see if he's taken his vitamins that day.  There's no incentive for me to take on someone who makes my life more complicated - he's supposed to be making it easier.



Eeek, sounds like having Ums or pets (though with my lot checking if they have eaten is not an issue, checking what they have not eaten often is, somebody told me dogs like to chew on shoes, apparently cats do too and the buggers always pick the most expensive ones)

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RE: Weight Control - 5/7/2009 9:46:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Peon, as to the leg shaving, they can just claim to be doing it for athletic purposes, if they're even asked. It's very common among bicyclists and swimmers, for example.
 
Nnyessssss - I'm a keen cyclist myself.  I don't think anyone ever believed those cyclists who claimed they'd shaved their pins for that reason. 

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RE: Weight Control - 5/7/2009 10:36:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		You could always try the time tested true response:

"Because I don't like being hairy..."

and if you get any mock from your answer, you can turn and say:

"My wife and girlfriend both like a smooth man..."

That usually shuts them up. 


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RE: Weight Control - 5/7/2009 10:39:59 AM   
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Nah.  I think I'd just respond with " . . . because I'm a screaming woofter".

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RE: Getting back to the topic - 6/1/2009 12:29:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		If I take a female that is over weight she will be required to lose it...I know alot of women that get pissed when you mention there weight but some except there situation and want to lose the weight...In the end she will be so happy she lost it and she knows it...I actually know a girl that was really big and she has lost 150 pounds and I'm soooo proud of her and she looks amazing.

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