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Real0ne -> Global Warming and Oil (4/21/2007 5:10:05 PM)

Everyone run i have been thinking again!  i have been connecting the dots with the fake global warming and fake terrorism, the war that will last 100 years etc and here is what i come up with.

First america nevers pays attention to anything until our asses are 1/2 gone in the meat grinder then we go um duh our asses are 1/2 gone think we should do somthing about it now?  Always when it is to late...  its a matter of history.

So here is what ithink is the big picture.

First if you all do not know we only have about 30 years max of oil supply left in this world, so if you got a hummer enjoy it while you can.  We have no serious r&d where we are pouring in zillions of bucks to make new energy sources. 

If you tell people that there is only 30 years left of oil they look at you with this incredibly dumbfounded look on their face like duh wha?  Well its tru we are at the end of the oil age and its coming to a halt fast.  Why else would we fake a war and with our military protect the only remaining oil reserves in the world.

At the same time create a huge global warming scare to reduce the use of fossil fuels.

These are 2 very simple dots that i have connected here that i think tells a huge story that is not being told to the people of the world.  we are running out of oil, and once it is gone thats it the end curtain falls show over.

Then what?  30 years tops, then what?  Make sense?






deadbluebird -> RE: Global Warming and Oil (4/21/2007 5:14:22 PM)

i don't understand exactly what your trying to say. are you saying human life is dependent on oil? we Need it to exsist? seems a bit silly to me.





Real0ne -> RE: Global Warming and Oil (4/21/2007 5:17:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: deadbluebird

i don't understand exactly what your trying to say. are you saying human life is dependent on oil? we Need it to exsist? seems a bit silly to me.




in a word yes, i doubt most people realize just how dependant we are on it




SilverWulf -> RE: Global Warming and Oil (4/21/2007 5:32:27 PM)

Around 30 years ago, there was 15 years worth of oil left. 

20 years ago we had 30 years to go. 

Now we seem to have another 30 or so, depending on who you ask. 

Going by the accuracy of past claims, I'm not going to get worried anytime soon.




Real0ne -> RE: Global Warming and Oil (4/21/2007 5:35:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SilverWulf

Around 30 years ago, there was 15 years worth of oil left. 

20 years ago we had 30 years to go. 

Now we seem to have another 30 or so, depending on who you ask. 

Going by the accuracy of past claims, I'm not going to get worried anytime soon.




you know if we did not invade 2 countries clearly for oil i would agree with you.  Why would we go through so much trouble to gaurd the oil if we were not runing out?




mnottertail -> RE: Global Warming and Oil (4/21/2007 5:36:01 PM)

you got kids?  what is your legacy?

we are all in this together.


Ulrica Meinhof and Andreaas Baader




FatDomDaddy -> RE: Global Warming and Oil (4/21/2007 5:40:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


First if you all do not know we only have about 30 years max of oil supply left in this world, so if you got a hummer enjoy it while you can.  We have no serious r&d where we are pouring in zillions of bucks to make new energy sources. ...


These are 2 very simple dots that i have connected here that i think tells a huge story that is not being told to the people of the world.  we are running out of oil, and once it is gone thats it the end curtain falls show over.

Then what?  30 years tops, then what?  Make sense?


Yeah...

About that...

There is enough pristine, untapped sweet crude oil under the ice in Antarctica to meet human need for the next 500 years.




Real0ne -> RE: Global Warming and Oil (4/21/2007 5:43:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne


First if you all do not know we only have about 30 years max of oil supply left in this world, so if you got a hummer enjoy it while you can.  We have no serious r&d where we are pouring in zillions of bucks to make new energy sources. ...


These are 2 very simple dots that i have connected here that i think tells a huge story that is not being told to the people of the world.  we are running out of oil, and once it is gone thats it the end curtain falls show over.

Then what?  30 years tops, then what?  Make sense?


Yeah...

About that...

There is enough pristine, untapped sweet crude oil under the ice in Antarctica to meet human need for the next 500 years.


do you have any data on that?

Canada is actually trying to produce the oil from their sand, why would they do that if it is so plentiful?




mnottertail -> RE: Global Warming and Oil (4/21/2007 5:43:32 PM)

stand and deliver!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cite many cites-------or are you just feeling this baby?

Ron




Real0ne -> RE: Global Warming and Oil (4/21/2007 5:54:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

stand and deliver!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cite many cites-------or are you just feeling this baby?

Ron



i do not like the conclusion i came to and i am frankly hoping someone can come up with something to change my mind on this.  The problem is that i have seen many oil maps of the world supply and have not seen anything to that close to those kinds of numbers that FDD is talking about, but i would certainly sleep better if it is true.  Has anything to do with politics ever been about what it appears to be? 




Sanity -> RE: Global Warming and Oil (4/21/2007 6:32:22 PM)

Look up shale rock

Energy from shale will be more expensive, but the shale in Canada alone is enough to keep us going for a very long time

Then there's nuclear energy, limitless energy there

Just tell the Libs to shut up and sit down, and we're there




mnottertail -> RE: Global Warming and Oil (4/21/2007 6:37:51 PM)

yup, and you can squeeze blood out of a turnip, that shale don't wring oil out of it, it is gettable and far more costly than coal and steam...........but nearly as dirty, because that is how you get it, in todays technology--so whats in your water glass?

FUCK THAT-----------


it is also possible to stick a fork in your brain and pull out a tumor----

there are repercussions.


Linnaeus




michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: Global Warming and Oil (4/21/2007 6:43:39 PM)

i have a question. if people are allowed to have homes that are all electric...then why can't we have cars that are all electric?




Sanity -> RE: Global Warming and Oil (4/21/2007 6:44:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

yup, and you can squeeze blood out of a turnip, that shale don't wring oil out of it, it is gettable and far more costly than coal and steam...........but nearly as dirty, because that is how you get it, in todays technology--so whats in your water glass?

FUCK THAT-----------


it is also possible to stick a fork in your brain and pull out a tumor----

there are repercussions.


Linnaeus



Some people think that yesterday's technology is forever.

FUCK THAT

Tomorrow rocks

Sit down and cry, I don't care.




ElectraGlide -> RE: Global Warming and Oil (4/21/2007 6:51:49 PM)

When gas is 25 bucks a gallon there will be plenty of it, because you will only be able to use little as possible because of the price. Then it will be stockpiled because of lack of use. Oil is used for much more than gasoline though it is used in plastics, rubber and many chemicals products such as paint, so the gas pump is a small piece of the oil puzzle.




mnottertail -> RE: Global Warming and Oil (4/21/2007 7:09:34 PM)

dreams of today and tomorrow are still dreams and not solutions.

It may be possible that there are physical phenonmena that I have not been party to.

Insofar as I am aware the technology still is physically describable:

there is:
chemical
physical
natural
means
well
lets look at what we got kids
chemical---------

oil and water are anethema
so you could steam it out
perhaps there is some nasty shit you could use to drop the shit out of it, somewhat like a vietmanese spin fuck chair 4,y,di-hydrotolune---
the leftovers of which makes a nice desert topping
ok thats chemical all requiring power input

physical has been given, shake it, and bake it and put it in an oven and sweat it out-------------what ever you have to break covalent bonds (kinda like the stupid shit of changing the angle of water ions)

natural, given time and gravity and undisturbed aeons it will naturally separate, in fact the shale is the flooring for many of the oil pockets we know of.

there is a kicker here, which you are free to explain or ignore, called the law of eqilibrium and we face it now, since there was a latency in the world before we found a use for oil it traded with the world in equal fashion, so at one time there was a surplus---from our frame of relativity (or invariance if you are pedantic) what happened is that we have a propensity for taking it faster than it can be made, now, as imbiciles are wont to explain, we only need to put more men to fucking women and we can have babies in less than nine months.


I don't need a second opinion, I will tell you it ain't so Joe.


Hauling oil from shale is more input than is gained. End of fuckin joke.

one has to know that the idea here with these fuels is to extract the hydrogen richnessfom them break the covalent bonds (electricity seems like a good idea and sparkplugs can be made by a dentist) and toss a little oxygen in there and you got explosive force.   pushes a piston and yadda yadda yadda------

home heating is nuke and coal like the old days or any better idea, but I will be forced to execute any dumbass that thinks that it would be slick to drive a batmobile-----------

I have children and it requires that they breathe after I die.


Pass----------

Ron
oh, by the way, wringing oil out of shale aint something that came up just lately in a bush cabinet meeting............the idea and technology is somewhere around the 1800's is wasn't a floater then and not a floater now.




Real0ne -> RE: Global Warming and Oil (4/21/2007 7:26:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity

Look up shale rock

Energy from shale will be more expensive, but the shale in Canada alone is enough to keep us going for a very long time

Then there's nuclear energy, limitless energy there

Just tell the Libs to shut up and sit down, and we're there


if nuke energy were used to supply the whole world at its present consumption rate we would use up all the uranium in about 10 years.

the up side no moer nukes, the down side disposing of all that heavy water




mnottertail -> RE: Global Warming and Oil (4/21/2007 7:30:11 PM)

quote:


Just tell the Libs to shut up and sit down, and we're there


Tell the clueless not to instruct the unknowing in the arts of magic would be more the case------------


Ron




Real0ne -> RE: Global Warming and Oil (4/21/2007 7:43:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ElectraGlide

When gas is 25 bucks a gallon there will be plenty of it, because you will only be able to use little as possible because of the price. Then it will be stockpiled because of lack of use. Oil is used for much more than gasoline though it is used in plastics, rubber and many chemicals products such as paint, so the gas pump is a small piece of the oil puzzle.


thats it exactly!  The one thing global warming and protecting the oil have in common that i can see is we are running out, i know the arabs are pumping less than they used to and i am betting their wells are going dry, britain said something like 10 more years and they are dry, so britain got afghanastan and we took iraq.   Global warming pushes to reduce the carbon footprint aspects while our military keeps this economy afloat.   i cannot think of even one politician who would tell us that kind of bad news for fear of being boo'd out of office.   So now we pissed those people off to the highest extent in the me for invading their lands so they all want to get us now, nothing truly substantial on the table aside from a little here and a little there for research, nasa is getting on the bandwagon tho so i think that speakls for something, the doe is looking into hydrogen and doing some studies on it finally, but no really big push yet.  thinking they do not want to scare us maybe.    Like everything else they will stand by and let it happen.  Then claim the DUH!




Real0ne -> RE: Global Warming and Oil (4/21/2007 8:24:14 PM)

The french predict 380 bucks per barrel by 2015

http://www.btinternet.com/~nlpwessex/Documents/DOEreportpeakoil.htm




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