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What does TPE mean to you? - 4/22/2007 11:49:00 AM

Osvaldo

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Total Power Exchange. What does that mean to you?

I am a Dominant man who is in a new relationship with a submissive woman. She told me that if things continue to go well between us that she would like to offer me a TPE. She has a lot more Lifestyle experience than I do but I have been in the Lifestyle on and off for six years. I know generally what this means and I am also aware that it means different things to different people.

I am interested in hearing from subs on what the term means to you whether or not they are or have been in a TPE relationship themselves.

Thanks in advance for your help.

=O=

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RE: What does TPE mean to you? - 4/22/2007 12:38:45 PM

kyraofMists

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This term actually means very little to me. I think it is a misnomer as he and I do not exchange power.

In our relationship we prefer the term Total Authority Transfer. I have transferred all authority to him. The authority is his to exercise however he wishes, even if he wants to delegate some of it back to me for a period of time.

Knight's kyra

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RE: What does TPE mean to you? - 4/22/2007 1:11:52 PM

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Similarly to what kyra said, Master and I do not exchange power. I give him my submission, and he takes me over with his power, dominance, and authority. We really don't talk much about lifestyle phrases; rather we just focus on living in a way that works best for us.

We do exchange energy, however, but that's a different subject.

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RE: What does TPE mean to you? - 4/22/2007 1:55:07 PM

slaveish

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Master makes the decisions. Depending on his mood, his decision might be for me to make my own decisions OR he tells me precisely what to do, how to do it, how long to do it, where to do it, and when to stop doing it; and I find that when he is not engaged in directing me, there are times that I miss being micromanaged.

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RE: What does TPE mean to you? - 4/22/2007 3:48:33 PM

hisannabelle

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greetings osvaldo,

i have to agree with what kyra and owned said. i used to like the term tpe, but as i grow more in our relationship and learn more about the lifestyle through talking with others, i've realized that "power exchange" really doesn't describe our relationship all that well. i am finding that "authority transfer" works better. i tend to shy away from too much of these catchphrases, though. basically, i've given up all of my rights to Him; i have the right to walk away if i ever desire to leave Him, but that's about it. He doesn't micromanage my life, but He does have ultimate authority over everything. there are areas like school, work, my daily life when we are not together, and finances where He rarely chooses to exercise that authority, but it's no less there.

annabelle.

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RE: What does TPE mean to you? - 4/22/2007 5:43:17 PM

Asraii

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As stated by some already, the words have very little meaning for me. I don't give up power to another; I do however transfer authority to them.

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RE: What does TPE mean to you? - 4/22/2007 6:12:36 PM

slavegirljoy

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For me, TPE means that my Master has ALL of the power within O/our relationship and over me. There is no “bargaining table” and no “push-pull” or “power struggle” between U/us. He is the Boss. He is the King. He is the Ruler. He has the final say in every decision within the relationship and about how i live. Whatever He says, goes, always, whether i like it or not. He tells me what to do and i don't argue about it, pout about it, try to negotiate, or do anything else to try to get Him to change His mind or to get "my way". No matter where i am or what i'm doing or whether He is physically with me or not, i don't do anything that He would not want me to do. That's because i trust Him, i believe in Him, and i rely on Him and this is the way i wanted to live.

O/our relationship didn't become a TPE relationship. It started as a TPE relationship. After being in various D/s relationships for more than 25 years, i decided to actively seek to be a 24/7 slave in a TPE relationship and my Master was seeking a 24/7 slave for a TPE relationship. He told me up front what He wanted, what He expected, and what He required and i agreed to live my life His way. Once i made that choice, i left all of the decision-making and all the power to Him. It’s not that i am never asked for my opinion or what i would like but, regardless of what i might want, He makes the final choice for me and i live by it. He cares about me and looks after me and makes decisions that are in my best interest, even if i don't like them. If i didn't know Him to be a man of integrity and honesty and goodness and intelligence and with a caring heart (even with His sadistic nature), i would never have entered into a TPE relationship with Him, as His slave, to begin with.

In my life, Master Knows Best and i listen to Him and do what He says, always.

slave joy
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RE: What does TPE mean to you? - 4/22/2007 8:50:20 PM

LuckyAlbatross

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TPE = Totally Pointless Expression

http://www.collarchat.com/m_103815/mpage_1/key_uat%252Ctpe/tm.htm#103815
TPE = Totally Pointless Expression?

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RE: What does TPE mean to you? - 4/22/2007 8:52:31 PM

Asraii

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

TPE = Totally Pointless Expression

http://www.collarchat.com/m_103815/mpage_1/key_uat%252Ctpe/tm.htm#103815
TPE = Totally Pointless Expression?

LOL ok, that is just too cute

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RE: What does TPE mean to you? - 4/22/2007 9:13:02 PM

ownedkitten

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quote:

ORIGINAL: kyraofMists

This term actually means very little to me. I think it is a misnomer as he and I do not exchange power.

In our relationship we prefer the term Total Authority Transfer. I have transferred all authority to him. The authority is his to exercise however he wishes, even if he wants to delegate some of it back to me for a period of time.

Knight's kyra

Greetings kyra,

Master referes to our dynamic as an "Absolute Authority Dynamic" so I can relate closely to what you describe.

Grace in Service,
caitriona

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RE: What does TPE mean to you? - 4/22/2007 9:52:12 PM

leili

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um, to me TPE does not exist lol

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RE: What does TPE mean to you? - 4/22/2007 10:08:25 PM

LuckyAlbatross

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedkitten
Master referes to our dynamic as an "Absolute Authority Dynamic" so I can relate closely to what you describe.

Grace in Service,
caitriona

As long as it's authority, I'm happy. If I could do one small thing in this world, it would be to rid it of all the "power exchange" talk in this sub-culture and replace it with "authority transfer."

It's slow but steady progress IMO.

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RE: What does TPE mean to you? - 4/23/2007 8:11:16 AM

Osvaldo

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Thanks for all of the great answers so far. I very much appreciate it. The concept of Authority Transfer fits much better for me too.

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RE: What does TPE mean to you? - 4/23/2007 1:42:16 PM

slavegirljoy

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For me, it is all about POWER. It has always been about POWER. It will always be about POWER. No one has ever had Authority over me, without having the POWER to back-it-up and to exercise that Authority over me. Without the Power being there first and foremost, there is no Authority over me.

Of my own choosing, i relinquished my power to my Master, in EXCHANGE for His promise to keep me as His property, to protect me, and to use me according to His conditions that were stated to me before i surrendered power to Him.

slave joy
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedkitten
Master referes to our dynamic as an "Absolute Authority Dynamic" so I can relate closely to what you describe.

Grace in Service,
caitriona

As long as it's authority, I'm happy. If I could do one small thing in this world, it would be to rid it of all the "power exchange" talk in this sub-culture and replace it with "authority transfer."

It's slow but steady progress IMO.

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RE: What does TPE mean to you? - 4/23/2007 1:51:00 PM

LuckyAlbatross

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quote:

ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy
Without the Power being there first and foremost, there is no Authority over me.

That I certainly agree with.

On the other hand, if you have no power now, then how are you able to follow any orders? Did you make no promises or commitments to him which require your own sense of self and power to actualize?

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RE: What does TPE mean to you? - 4/23/2007 2:34:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: Osvaldo

Total Power Exchange. What does that mean to you?...

=O=

we have a relationship that began as Master/slave or Owner/owned. folks who find those terms offensive or prefer the terms TPE or TAT might try to describe our relationship structure as such, but this slave doesn't. this slave might use them to describe another's relationship as such, but only after they have already identified it that way.

exchanging power, transferring authority, bartering control, commutation of sovereignty, et al, are all phrases that really don't mean much to this slave, but neither does sub/Dom-frenzy/drop and a bunch of other terms that this slave has seen or heard from folks who have coined them or adopted them along their journey.

no offense intended to those who find meaning in them.

< Message edited by Mercnbeth -- 4/23/2007 2:36:06 PM >

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RE: What does TPE mean to you? - 4/23/2007 2:58:18 PM

Casie

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TPE really means nothing to me. Although I do use the aberviation because it is widely recognized and understud that you are in a 24/7 d/s relationship

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RE: What does TPE mean to you? - 4/23/2007 7:41:51 PM

Obsidiansnamaste

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Osvaldo

Total Power Exchange. What does that mean to you?

I am a Dominant man who is in a new relationship with a submissive woman. She told me that if things continue to go well between us that she would like to offer me a TPE. She has a lot more Lifestyle experience than I do but I have been in the Lifestyle on and off for six years. I know generally what this means and I am also aware that it means different things to different people.

I am interested in hearing from subs on what the term means to you whether or not they are or have been in a TPE relationship themselves.

Thanks in advance for your help.

=O=

Greetings Osvaldo,

Your signature (=O=) is very close to my Owners. In anycase, W.we are involved in a TPE/APE type relationship. He maintains total and absolute authority and power over me. We are quite literal in our definitions (something that does not sit well with some) in that being "A little TPE" is like being a little pregnant, you either are or you are not. The form this takes is that while He may desire to know my opinon on something, or even my desire about something, it is known that ultimately He will make the final call in EVERY situation. The limits on the relationship are any that are decided by Him based upon His own internal compass and not based upon my setting them. There is nothing in my life that is beyond the reach of His Mastery and Ownership. There is an amazing degree of freedom in being in a relationship in which you do not have boundaries. Boundaries are usually created to keep something out or something in, a way of saying "Go no further". i have no desire to keep Master out of anything, and no desire to with hold any part of me from Him. It is not something to be entered into lightly IMO. We are 24/7 TPE so this is how we live life.

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RE: What does TPE mean to you? - 4/23/2007 8:45:06 PM

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Not a lot for me personally. When someone uses TPE, I tend to think 'oh M/s dynamic'. I know the message they are trying to convey most of the time (I hope? lol). I would have the same feelings towards the word flufflelafaphagus should it some day come to mean 'hey that person is in charge of our relationship.'

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RE: What does TPE mean to you? - 4/24/2007 10:34:23 AM

slavegirljoy

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i didn't say i have no power. i have plenty of power that comes directly from my Master. He gives me the power, strength and courage to do much more and with more confidence than i ever have before. He is my STRENGTH. He is my POWER. i lean on Him and rely on Him completely. Maybe that's where the Exchange of Power comes into it. Any way, He has the ultimate Power over me in all that i do. The power i have is granted to me by Him. Of course, i have my own physical power to do things, but the power to decide to use what i have and how and when to use it is given to me by my Master. For example, i have the power to stay awake past 11:00 P.M., but my Master has not granted me the power to do that on weeknights. i still have the physical power to do it, but i have surrendered the power to make that choice to Him. i have the physical power to orgasm, but my Master has taken the power to decide when or if i will orgasm or not. i have the physical power to urinate whenever i feel i need to, but there are times when my Master has taken charge of that and required me to restrict the use of that power until He decides it's time for me to do so. He has Total Power over me. That's what i needed from a Master, that's what i sought from a Master and that's what i got and that's what works for me and i love it and i will continue to proudly and, in my view, properly say that i am in a Total Power Exchange relationship and i would sincerely hope that others within the BDSM community would respect what i have with my Master and not disparage me, my Master, or how W/we choose to live, simply because of the way W/we choose to define O/our lives together.

slave joy
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

quote:

ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy
Without the Power being there first and foremost, there is no Authority over me.

That I certainly agree with.

On the other hand, if you have no power now, then how are you able to follow any orders? Did you make no promises or commitments to him which require your own sense of self and power to actualize?

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