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RE: Safewording During a Punishment - 5/4/2005 7:31:21 AM

Phoenixandnika

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ORIGINAL: uncollaredcandy

Why in the world would a submissive be with a dominant who would abuse the submissive? And if with such a dominant, why in the world would a submissive, upon experiencing abuse, upon finding out that the dominant will abuse the submissive, why in the world would the submissive stay with that dominant?

Punishment shouldnt be abusive. The first rule of Ownership is protect the property. So why would a Dominant wiether Man or Woman purposly do permant physical or emotional dmage to what is their property?

Secondly, to use the word abuse. This lifestyle gets alot of heat from those of the vanilla world. One of my dearest friends freaks at the thought that I love to have my Master choke me to the point of going numb. Is it abusive, not to me. To some perhaps. This is again wher protecting and knowing your property comes in, or even knowing those you choose to play with comes in. Safe and Sain. Safe words should always be allowed even in punishment.

So please be caustious about throwing around the term abuse.

In most contracts I have seen a slave has veto power over certain situations, I think a punishment that would elave permenant damage in any way to a slave or submissive would be a time for that power to be used.

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RE: Safewording During a Punishment - 5/4/2005 10:06:47 AM

BeachMystress

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When a safeword is uttered, that is it. You stop. You need to keep in mind that when you are punishing, you're usually willing to go further than you would in a play situation and the safeword may be warranted, even if you think it isn't.

If you feel the submissive has safeworded to avoid the punishment rather than that it is more than they can bear, then you need to have a talk with them and consider if they are the proper submissive for you to have.

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RE: Safewording During a Punishment - 5/4/2005 12:39:35 PM

Vampira

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It's imperative, during a punishment the master or mistress can leave them by their instintcts and exceed themselves, the only way for stop and show your pleasurless is tell the Safeword.

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RE: Safewording During a Punishment - 5/4/2005 12:47:37 PM

EmeraldSlave2

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Umm punishments are supposed to be pleasure-less.

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RE: Safewording During a Punishment - 5/5/2005 3:52:44 PM

ansfrid

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ORIGINAL: Phoenixandnika
Secondly, to use the word abuse. This lifestyle gets alot of heat from those of the vanilla world. One of my dearest friends freaks at the thought that I love to have my Master choke me to the point of going numb. Is it abusive, not to me. To some perhaps. This is again wher protecting and knowing your property comes in, or even knowing those you choose to play with comes in. Safe and Sain. Safe words should always be allowed even in punishment.

So please be caustious about throwing around the term abuse.

I am, but I won't shy away from it either. Abuse starts where the consent stops. You consent to be choked, it's not abuse in my book either. I like to choke (not the point of numbness, that's a line that makes me nervous, but I won't judge so long as you are still safe). I recognize consent where the much of the rest of society would scream abuse, it's that consent that makes the difference.

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