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Aileen68 -> RE: Collarme Island (4/28/2007 4:54:18 AM)

Kinda like hunting wabbits, huh? 
Heh heh.
I'm in.




WilliamWizer -> RE: Collarme Island (4/28/2007 5:30:54 AM)

sorry. I'm a pacifist. I don't like stupid battles about who will rule on the island. for all that I care as long as I can live peacefully with one or two cute slavegirls (more are welcomed if they want to come) the rest of the island population can fight until dead. it's their lives.
only one thing. anybody tries to harm one of my slaves and he (or she) will be dead before knowing what happened.
to whoever didn't notice I said harm one of my slaves. I never said anything about harming me. if somebody harms me I will defend myself. If they harm my slave I will kill. (and I said I'm a paficist LOL)




LadyEllen -> RE: Collarme Island (4/28/2007 5:58:12 AM)

That could be the problem though William - all the guys so far want at least one, and preferably more, gals. There aint gonna be enough gals to go round, so it looks like there'll have to be some form of deciding who ends up without, which will inevitably degenerate into fights - either to get hold of one or more gals, or to settle the score when one or more gals flocks to another.

It could turn out to be good thing that I will have brought all that Androcur with me in the end.

E





WilliamWizer -> RE: Collarme Island (4/28/2007 6:26:05 AM)

I don't think that should be a problem LadyEllen.
as far as I know a relationship is not something a dom can decide alone. (if it could be decided only by the guy I would already had lots of slaves living with me)
a relationship is (or should be) decided by both the dom and the sub.
of course there won't be enough gals for everybody but there's an easy form to decide who ends without. if none of the slaves available want's to be your slave then you get none. if all the slaves want to be with you then you will get all the slaves you want (sadly it won't be my case)




LadyEllen -> RE: Collarme Island (4/28/2007 6:35:40 AM)

dont sell yourself short William; I'm sure you'd get at least one!

In normal circumstances, yes its a mutual decision to get together. But I suspect in a situation like this, the only rules and authority would be whatever one can assert for oneself, by force, and it wouldnt take long for our civilised veneer to tarnish, to get us to that situation.

E




WilliamWizer -> RE: Collarme Island (4/28/2007 6:59:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

dont sell yourself short William; I'm sure you'd get at least one!


I so hope. but no luck yet. (and yes... I'm sure I will get one sooner or later. but I said "all the slaves you want" and that I'm sure I won't get it)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

In normal circumstances, yes its a mutual decision to get together. But I suspect in a situation like this, the only rules and authority would be whatever one can assert for oneself, by force, and it wouldnt take long for our civilised veneer to tarnish, to get us to that situation.

E


why? why humans are so egoistic? how can anyone say they love their partners if we take them by force? I don't know others but me? I couldn't be happy if the only way I can have a slave is by forcing her by force. I want her to stay with me because she feels cared, protected, happy and loved.




wandersalone -> RE: Collarme Island (4/28/2007 11:49:15 AM)

Can I put my hand up for a dom who has his own teeth and hair please [:D] I am prepared to provide the nightly entertainment around the campfire - we can all sing kumbayah  and 99 green bottles every night after we have caught something to eat....or...... sadly had to sacrifice someone for the greater cause....grins...cool. I like barbeque.




WilliamWizer -> RE: Collarme Island (4/28/2007 12:17:45 PM)

O_O would you eat another person?
ok. I suppose some people can like that but please stay away from me. I'm not somebody lunch.




Marc2b -> RE: Collarme Island (4/28/2007 12:25:33 PM)

Aileen68 said:
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Soooo...what's this I hear about being kidnapped???


Hey, I said my slave girls are always happy. Seriously, I do hope you take the compliment for what it is.

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Just so you all know, I'm a hell of a fisherman.


Great! This will greatly increase your value to me.

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Any natural herbage growing on this island???


Of course! I have a secret garden in the jungle. You’ll be doing the actual gardening, of course. I’ll enjoy some (if you’re well behaved you can have some, I believe in both the carrot and the stick), and trade some for supplies.

Yeah... if it wasn’t for that spear wielding lunatic, Rumtiger, running around, this place could be a real paradise.

LadyEllen said:
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That could be the problem though William - all the guys so far want at least one, and preferably more, gals. There aint gonna be enough gals to go round, so it looks like there'll have to be some form of deciding who ends up without, which will inevitably degenerate into fights - either to get hold of one or more gals, or to settle the score when one or more gals flocks to another.


My sword arm will decide the matter.

WilliamWizer said:
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I don't think that should be a problem LadyEllen.
as far as I know a relationship is not something a dom can decide alone. (if it could be decided only by the guy I would already had lots of slaves living with me)
a relationship is (or should be) decided by both the dom and the sub.
of course there won't be enough gals for everybody but there's an easy form to decide who ends without. if none of the slaves available want's to be your slave then you get none. if all the slaves want to be with you then you will get all the slaves you want (sadly it won't be my case)


This is indeed what probably would happen in such a situation (not that it’s ever going to happen). I wouldn’t have a problem with it. Fantasies aside, I am a firm believer in individual rights. As I see it, a 100% TPE amongst real, decent, people of good will cannot truly exist. The sub always retains at least one right – the right to walk away from the relationship whenever she or he chooses.

LadyEllen said:
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In normal circumstances, yes its a mutual decision to get together. But I suspect in a situation like this, the only rules and authority would be whatever one can assert for oneself, by force, and it wouldnt take long for our civilised veneer to tarnish, to get us to that situation.


Actually, although I do believe we would break up into different groups I think we’d be able to more or less maintain good will toward each other. Sure, there be some fisticuffs but I think most of the people on Collarme are decent people and that we’d be more cooperative than competitive. Except, of course, for that spear wielding, blood soaked, lunatic, Rumtiger – we’re going to have to hunt him down.

Everybody light up their torches!  I have sharpened a stick at both ends!   Heh... heh... heh.
 
WilliamWizer said:
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why? why humans are so egoistic? how can anyone say they love their partners if we take them by force?


Ask the Goreans, They’ll give you a long dissertation on it.

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I don't know others but me? I couldn't be happy if the only way I can have a slave is by forcing her by force. I want her to stay with me because she feels cared, protected, happy and loved.


You and I are of similar mind. A lot of people mock the old notion that "submission is a gift," but I am not one of them. What else would you call someone actually giving themself to you? Not only is it a gift, it is a profound gift who’s value cannot be calculated. And why wouldn’t cherish such a gift by taking good care of the sub. The best line I’ve ever head regarding a Master/slave girl relation ship was someone who said, "I want my slave to have a healthy fear of my displeasure, but I don’t ever want her to be afraid of me."

Looked at another way: when your slave girl addresses you as Master, you want to hear respect, not fear, in her voice.  If any man wants to hear real fear in her voice, then I would never consider him to be a real man.




WilliamWizer -> RE: Collarme Island (4/28/2007 12:52:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

WilliamWizer said:
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why? why humans are so egoistic? how can anyone say they love their partners if we take them by force?


Ask the Goreans, They’ll give you a long dissertation on it.


I'm sure of it but I already know that long dissertation. I have read some of the gor books (and if I find time I will continue reading them) and I consider myself half gorean but I'm a pacifist. a diplomat.

I don't thing things need or can be solved by sword. It's a lot better to have an ally alive than a foe dead. you kill your enemy and some ally of him will hunt you. you become friend of your enemy and when somebody hunts you he will help you.

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

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I don't know others but me? I couldn't be happy if the only way I can have a slave is by forcing her by force. I want her to stay with me because she feels cared, protected, happy and loved.


You and I are of similar mind. A lot of people mock the old notion that "submission is a gift," but I am not one of them. What else would you call someone actually giving themself to you? Not only is it a gift, it is a profound gift who’s value cannot be calculated. And why wouldn’t cherish such a gift by taking good care of the sub. The best line I’ve ever head regarding a Master/slave girl relation ship was someone who said, "I want my slave to have a healthy fear of my displeasure, but I don’t ever want her to be afraid of me."


nice quote. I agree. and yes it looks like we are of similar mind.




Aileen68 -> RE: Collarme Island (4/28/2007 1:02:45 PM)

Aw hell.  It's a hot thinking that all the menfolk will be fighting for the wenches.
Now that's primal lust.




WilliamWizer -> RE: Collarme Island (4/28/2007 1:43:44 PM)

yeah. sure. I let them fight to death and then when all the other men are dead I take the nice submissive girls under my care. ^_^




petdave -> RE: Collarme Island (4/28/2007 4:14:33 PM)

All this talk of capturing wenches does make me wonder how things would shake out in Femdomland...

Would they all be carried off by physically stronger male Dominants convinced that they are latent submissives who just haven't met the right Dom?

Would the Women, too, be fighting for control of the largest and most valuable harem of slaves? If so, would it be a good ol' fashioned catfight, (i invision there being lots of mud involved, your image may vary) or would there be a lot of poisoning and stabbing going on?

In the absence of ca$h money, would submissives try to lure Femdoms to them by competing to create the most desireable island households?

Absent indoor plumbing and Charmin, would toilet slaves finally be in demand? 

Statistically speaking, would there even be a Female Dominant on the island?

So many unknowns [:o]




cjenny -> RE: Collarme Island (4/28/2007 4:16:55 PM)

It would be interesting that's for sure. There are a lot of dominant personalities, the basic instinct for survival can bring out the toughest in people. It can also bring out the worst.
I can imagine an awful lot of wrangling until teams are formed and the gathering of food/building of treehouses has been established. The waterfall has been determined safe for swimming and a nearby grove of native fruit perfumes the humid air. For some reason I see too, the separation that is here on CM taking a bit to dissolve in RL.
Once the dust cleared though I bet most of us would get along pretty well. Especially if the gorean men go out and hunt islandy beasties [8D] .
I think we would settle into casual group settings, not all in one large group. In the beginning it would be grouped mostly by forum topic familiarity, that feeling of solidarity thru kink. Then they would shift as people REALLY got to know and understand one another.
There isn't another message board group that I belong to I would rather be stranded with lol. A lot of us are physical, a lot are very very bright. Nearly all of us are quite sexual [:D]  and we come from all sorts of backgrounds.
Jeez this took forever because my mind kept wandering to very deviant island distractions. Hot sweaty men fill my view.. oddly I am swinging leisurely in a hammock with a coconut to sip on. (Gee I must have built something spectacular, that's why I have this seat of luxury for the moment). See? Distracted..
Then we go to the torches flickering in the sultry jungle air as the sun drops behind the island. Slick wet skin shines as bodies writhe..............

to be continued in my mind.




Rumtiger -> RE: Collarme Island (4/28/2007 5:51:39 PM)

apparently human flesh tastes like veal.




domiguy -> RE: Collarme Island (4/28/2007 5:54:05 PM)

Fools! You can have the Aileen's of the world. They are dead to me now.  I finally have interest in only acquiring a plethora of the BBW type of sub...Aside from their hauling capability of a pack mule...They could come in handy if the fishing or the hunting is slow.....Mmmmmmmm!   Nothing like roasted sub on the spit simmering slowly in an agave based mole sauce.....Auuuughmm!!!....Roasted sub!

Of course it will also be a refreshing change of pace when about every two weeks someone posts. "Why are all the subs on CM so skinny?"




NorthernGent -> RE: Collarme Island (4/28/2007 6:29:30 PM)

I'd construct the biggest spear you've ever seen and then go toe to toe with the nearest shark in a man against shark battle for survive. After annihilating the thing, I'd be crowned chief of the island. I'd then hand pick my brown shirts and we'd operate a regime of terror - anyone stepping out of line will be thrown into the boiling pot and eaten.

We'd sell fish to the local tribe in return for their home brew and herbs and we'd get completely and utterly stoned for weeks on end, anyone refusing to take part will face the wrath of the brown shirts. In between, I'd have selected and captured the woman, and she'd accompany me 'round the island at my beck and call, she ain't getting in the brownshirts though - she can run the womens' bingo or something.




dcnovice -> RE: Collarme Island (4/28/2007 7:42:39 PM)

<fast reply>

Good thing that traffic jam on 66 made me miss the plane.




Marc2b -> RE: Collarme Island (4/28/2007 8:40:52 PM)

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I'd construct the biggest spear you've ever seen and then go toe to toe with the nearest shark in a man against shark battle for survive.

Shark, hmmm... This shark wouldn’t happen to be from Kentucky, would it? If so, I admire both the theoretical political maneuver (identify the most likely leader of the opposition and eliminate him first) and the sly sense of humor.




LotusSong -> RE: Collarme Island (4/28/2007 9:40:46 PM)

Ellen,
 
I'm gathering the women together to form an alliance.  We are in charge of the food. sure.. we'll do the gathering and the boys can have some of our harvest (physical and/or material) when they do what they are told... to our satisfaction.  If we are to start anew.. we have to do it right this time.
 
Oh.. and gentelman.. before you think you cancart us off and have your way with us.. let's assume ONE of the females has an STD.. and no one is sure who...
 
BTW.. would a Tuscany style Palace be to your liking?




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