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What don't we show up when we say would? - 4/28/2007 7:16:14 PM   
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Okay, very simple.I realize many who will read this will never admit it, but why is it subs/slaves make it sound like they are so  interested in a Mistress/Master to the point of a meeting is set ..but never follow through with it? In fact some go as far as disappearing  from the face of the planet . Why would  someone do this to another, specially when they are  so close to discovering  a level of happiness and content they have not had before???
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RE: What don't we show up when we say would? - 4/28/2007 7:17:25 PM   
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greetings openmindedslave,

there are plenty of dominants who do this to submissives as well. it's an across the board problem. that said, i pretty much show up when i say i'm going to, or i at least have the decency to call beforehand. perhaps they are scared, put off by something their prospective partner has said, or perhaps they simply don't think it will be a good match and haven't found a way to say it before. doesn't excuse the rudeness of not showing up, but those are some reasons. dating, for everyone, does not always consist on being on the verge of as-yet-unknown happiness and joy.

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RE: What don't we show up when we say would? - 4/28/2007 7:18:58 PM   
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Because people like to play and fantasize, but when the fantasy turns into an all too real reality...they duck and run.
 
Then there are just some people who don't know what they want and let their lives be decided by default.

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RE: What don't we show up when we say would? - 4/28/2007 7:19:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: openmindedslave

Okay, very simple.I realize many who will read this will never admit it, but why is it subs/slaves make it sound like they are so  interested in a Mistress/Master to the point of a meeting is set ..but never follow through with it? In fact some go as far as disappearing  from the face of the planet . Why would  someone do this to another, specially when they are  so close to discovering  a level of happiness and content they have not had before???

There could be many factors that apply. Some are ruled more by fear than anything else.

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RE: What don't we show up when we say would? - 4/28/2007 7:28:06 PM   
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I've got to go with the fear factor as well..IMO the no shows do not show because they have, I think, been somewhat dishonest and know not how to correct it before the meet..such as ..appearance..level of experience..fear of being seen as less than what was portrayed via the net..when in face to face, way to many things then thus become hard to dissimiliate, and the hard truth then comes out..Tempting

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RE: What don't we show up when we say would? - 4/28/2007 7:30:48 PM   
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i had a Dom duck and run out on me because of my skin color before we were to meet ...as others had said there are any number of reasons why subs/slaves as well Doms/mes don't show up. it happens to everyone at some point.

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RE: What don't we show up when we say would? - 4/28/2007 11:35:57 PM   
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I think the reality of things may hit them.. if they have never met anyone from the internet before it could be a fairly dreadful experience even before you set eyes on each other.. All those thoughts as to whether the person is a sterotypical net psycho etc.
I've met many people from online and I still freak out before i meet new people.

You fall off the world afterwards because your ashamed that you cant go through with it.. that you werent strong enough..

Anyway -- just my two cents, better get back to studying yucky bioinformatics.

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RE: What don't we show up when we say would? - 4/28/2007 11:40:41 PM   
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You fall off the world afterwards because your ashamed that you cant go through with it.. that you werent strong enough..

*hangs head* i did this once and only once. i have since talked to the gentleman and he was gracious enough to forgive me.....


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RE: What don't we show up when we say would? - 4/29/2007 12:24:39 AM   
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RE: What don't we show up when we say would? - 4/29/2007 3:37:48 AM   
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i can only speak from my own experiences.  There are likely several factors involved in no-show but i think it all boils down to one single reason: fear.  Not terribly long ago there was a Dom who said "let's get together tomorrow, i'll call you and let you know where and when" then nada....i left messages, nothing.  A week later he calls again, no excuse, just "i was busy" and made another date, but this time he called to say he couldn't make it and then rescheduled and that was a repeat of the first time.  It would be interesting to know why he did this, what he was afraid of, etc. but just out of curiosity.

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RE: What don't we show up when we say would? - 4/29/2007 4:07:41 AM   
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RE: What don't we show up when we say would? - 4/29/2007 4:16:34 AM   
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Being stood up has not been a common event in my life.  I can only recall being stood up once in the vanilla world.  I never gave him much thought nor would I have accepted a second request for a date after that.  I have run into a lot of disappearing sub males here.  No experience less perplexing than the previous.  I think that there are many factors that could be involved, and each event is specific to the individual.   Disappearance does seem to be a very common thing here.  It has shifted my expectations to zero of any that I meet on line.  Then I am pleasantly surprised when they do not fail. 
What happened?  
1.  They lied about themselves (as mentioned) and a real life meeting would expose that lie.  (I never did that, never did understand self sabotage.)
2.  They have not been open about their entire personal situation and limitations.  Those limitations interfere with their fantasy becoming reality.
3.  They are yellow bellied chicken livers:  scared.
4.  They are wanking game players and never really intended to meet.
5.  They just weren't ready to take this real life.
I'm sure there could be other unimagined reasons....that person is the only one who could possibly tell us their why.

I have come to the perspective where I consider it a blessing if they do disappear without notice or do not inform in advance of an inability to keep a commitment.  If they can fail so early on in a relationship with such rude and inconsiderate behavior then it is not the type individual that I ultimately want to be in a relationship with.  If someone fails to keep their word with me they will soon find themselves removed from a relationship with me.  If they aren't worth their word then they are not worth much. 

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RE: What don't we show up when we say would? - 4/29/2007 4:18:12 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Einzelganger

It's not related to BDSM; it's simply a human quality.  It happens all the time in vanilla relationships as well.

-Einzelgänger


I strongly disagree.

I've never been stood up for a vanilla date;  nor had any of my friends in the lifestyle - however, we've all been stood up by male submissives, multiple times.  

For a while it was a great filtering device though - when I lived in PA, I had a group of about half a dozen Domme friends that would "swap notes" - I can't tell you how often someone that had stood one of us up would turn around and approach another not long after.   Since we communicated well, the "second" Domme would generally not bother to waste their time, thus the sub by standing up one domme, missed out on the opportunity to meet quite a few of them who wouldn't bother with him after that. 

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RE: What don't we show up when we say would? - 4/29/2007 4:38:02 AM   
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It's easy on here isn't it? Online we can be anything, say anything, do anything. And on somewhere like here where so many people appear to know what they are doing *bowing to the room* then it can be hard for people who don't to admit that. So people get swept away, they do the yes ma'am, no ma'am thing and they get to the point of meeting. And then it all comes crashing down on them. Goddamn, I actually have to live up to my words! How scary.

You know, I might be naive, but I genuinely do think that for a lot of people they get swept away by what they want in their hearts and what they are able to deliver in person. So they can talk the talk but when it comes to walking the walk it just becomes too much and they bolt. Probably back to their PC to sit there and berate themselves about not having the balls to follow through and to start all over again.

Alternatively they have no intention of ever meeting and its all about the online thing. *shrugging* Maybe they never intend to take it into real life for a variety of reasons but if they say they are only interesting in online domination they don't get any takers? I don't know, I haven't been around here long enough to hazard a guess.


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RE: What don't we show up when we say would? - 4/29/2007 6:27:08 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: hisannabelle
dating, for everyone, does not always consist on being on the verge of as-yet-unknown happiness and joy.

annabelle.


Yes, that's true, sometimes, many times lately for me, has been more disappointments and less of unknown joy and happiness (on some instances I even start thinking about dating vanilla men).

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RE: What don't we show up when we say would? - 4/29/2007 7:14:11 AM   
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The internet is a wondefull thing and helps us all learn, chat to people all over the world we might never have met and meet like minded people. Unfortunately it does not filter out those without integrity, honesty and live in a fantasy world.

It is a major frustration of mine, because we have so many idiots and dreamers, still locked in their bedrooms in their parents home, living out fantasies and dreams online. It is when they are pushed to meet that they disappear off the face of the earth, obviously having a fear of large open spaces! Alas, they live in a world where the sky is pink, the earth is flat and rests on a turtles back!


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RE: What don't we show up when we say would? - 4/29/2007 12:39:58 PM   
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I  totally agree with  those who say "fear" plays into being stood up. I also believe that  many out here really don't get what what it takes to  be in a realtionship for some out here.  Yet here is a couple of observations I see that may have an effect on success out here.

Someone said the  internet has something to do with all this hiding of our trueselves. We start off creating email addresses for some that hide who we really are. We can also pretend  to be all the things we wish we could be. Some out here for example demand pictures and calls just to make sure they are a female or male???
I also see the challenge of profiles as sometimes a stumbling block. A good profile will generally share  something about the person, including maybe a picture and their interest.  Alot of the profiles I have read clearly state that they are seeking ltr from the very begining. That can be great from the stand point of letting others know that this is not just playing you seek but a permant  realtionship.  Often the subs/slaves  profiles I have read  don't talk about ltr as much as gfantasy words of ownership and desire to serve.

Also, to the subs/slaves out here who are lucky enought to get into a conversation with a dom that seems to lead in a meeting . That excitement of actually finding someone who understands you and seems to appreciate your true self with out judging you, is pretty arousing to many here. You know what I mean. You start to think about them with your a work .Day dream about serving  or living out your fantasys finally. Pretty much for some like having a pretty girl smile at you and it just makes your day.
Sad truth is its safe  behind your keyboard. Alot of people never really think about what it would really be like to serve full time.That shock of  realizing  that someone may publicly use you or that you will not beable to share your personal life with many of your friends for fear of being judged.So many don't carry through  and just go on with their lives  thinking maybe the next dom will be the right one to submit too.


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RE: What don't we show up when we say would? - 4/29/2007 12:42:24 PM   
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It took me forever (okay maybe not that long-but still 3 months) to actually meet my Daddy/Master face to face. The day i did, something happened prior to meeting that pushed me to just go do it already.... Or else i may have prolonged it for even longer.

The first time we were to be alone is another story...i almost didn't show up...i wasn't going to not call or leave it alone forever, i was just soooooo afraid, i knew that by being alone with him that it was truly me crossing the bridge into another world and life. That was major for me...so i was trying to stall and on top of it my emotions were making me ill....

He convinced me to go and i don't regret that action a bit but if i had stalled longer it would've been over sheer fear of knowing that i was going to get what i really thought i wanted and what i needed and not knowing how to process that.

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RE: What don't we show up when we say would? - 4/29/2007 12:47:07 PM   
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Both times that I've met dominants from a long-distance situation for the first time, they were almost astonished that I "actually showed up". I thought that was so sad, apparently both the men had had multiple situations where the sub either didn't show up at all, or was completely different from the photo she sent and who she said she was. To have men feeling relieved simply because I was who I said I was, and made an appearance when I said I would, feels really ironic to me. On the other hand, I've never had a dom not appear or be anything other than he said he was (sometimes I didn't like who he turned out to be, but that wasn't a matter of deception).

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RE: What don't we show up when we say would? - 4/29/2007 1:12:50 PM   
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IMO , I think alot has to do with the person, If they are truthful with themselves, about what they want and need. They may not really know themselves at all and the fear of facing someone ,when they can not face themselves is scary.
I do believe this happens also because some were not taught to do what you say you are going to do. Take responsibility for your actions and respect others and not promise what you can not deliver.

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