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RE: Housework?? - 5/18/2007 7:51:47 AM   
thetammyjo


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ORIGINAL: Kitte9

(I know, I know, I responded before but I thought of some new things in response to the original question)

I've seen many posts regarding slaves who are expected to do housework. I've even seen references to 'no strings' housework. Are subs also expected to do such chores, or are these things something you discuss before entering the service of a domme?


I don't have subs, I only have trainees and slaves -- yes, both are expected to obey any command and complete any chore assigned by me.

Usually I get to know someone and have them try out several chores before deciding what are individual responsibilities. I find it more helpful and effecient when the best person for the job does it.

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RE: Housework?? - 5/18/2007 7:21:21 PM   
Kitte9


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Status: offline 		Thank you for the compliment, LadyPact. As I learn I get curiouser and curiouser, thanks to all the wonderful input I recieve.

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RE: Housework?? - 5/18/2007 11:12:58 PM   
JpnsTigerrrlily


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Status: offline 		I do expect anyone serving me to assist with things around the house. However if I'm off for a few days and they're working then I'm not going to let the dishes pile up and the floor not be vacuumed because they're not there. I like things done a certain way and I will show them how I like things done...as well as why I'm doing something. I don't have to, but my thought process works that way. I need to know why I'm doing something a certain way.

It also has become a sort of training tool when getting to know a person I am considering. I will give them an assignment like clean the bathroom or put away these clothes and let them know to ask me if they have any questions. I will also tell them to do whatever the chore is, to the best of their ability. They have complete authority over the job they are doing. When they are done I ask them if that was the best job they could do, THEN I go inspect it. It shows me how detail oriented they are, where their current levels of "best" are...and we go from there.

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RE: Housework?? - 5/19/2007 12:08:06 PM   
onthenosetone


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Status: offline 		I'd just take it as read that all the household upkeep would be down to me

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RE: Housework?? - 5/19/2007 12:19:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		A house needs to be kept up.  The group's time and responsibilities should be considered. I am not going to spend a week at home while my sub is working then wait til he gets home to do the dishes and laundry that have been piling up.  But I don't like housework and would prefer my submissive do it or most of it.  Routine maintenance, I don't mind splitting but the big stuff I am not going to do.  If all things are equal, we both work long hours, etc. I would likely simply get a maid so the free time we have together was spent doing things that are more fun than housekeeping.

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RE: Housework?? - 5/19/2007 12:52:19 PM   
MsOpal


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Status: offline 		I currently have 2 "casual play" gentlemen and since our play time is very limited it really is just for play sessions, at times with a meal before or after (it is a long drive to my home).  If I had a gentleman who had time to really spend out here, like all weekend or sometime during the week, he would be assigned to wash the dishes after meals and to clean up after me as I cook.  I do not have automatic dishwasher, it is all by hand and that does get olf after years and years, so a sub's washing them really does make me happier!

If we ever do find that elusive live in girl, she will do a lot of housework, but I will still do some as well.  I tend to want to take care of my own laundry.  We have a rather large home and we love to ahve weekend sleep over company and I am pretty picky about how clean things need to be, so havign someone to share that with before and after company would be a good thing!  But as for "no strings"  ... hmmm. I lie to swat a sub-bottom's bottom as they wash dishes, is that no strings?

I do agree that each operson/relationship needs to work out all that for themselves and so much depends on specific requirements, abilities, health, and how many dishes get broken!
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RE: Housework?? - 5/20/2007 5:11:25 AM   
MiladyAngelique


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kitte9

I've seen many posts regarding slaves who are expected to do housework. I've even seen references to 'no strings' housework. Are subs also expected to do such chores, or are these things something you discuss before entering the service of a domme?


I have it in my profile that I am looking for a service boy, but even though I have had offers for that kind of service, when it comes down to it, I would need to trust the boy involved alot because I have certain items that could never be replaced... ever.

However in a relationship my boy will be required to do the lion's share of housework, simply because I hate doing it, I love cooking however so it should even out ... I hope.





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RE: Housework?? - 5/20/2007 5:19:58 AM   
MyMasterStephen


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Status: offline 		It never ceases to annoy me how many people ask what the rules are in BDSM...

THERE ARE NO RULES EXCEPT THOSE THAT YOU AGREE WITH YOUR DOM / DOMME / SUB / SLAVE...

If you don't like the regime that a Dom is offering, then move on and find another whose regime you DO like.

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RE: Housework?? - 5/20/2007 5:25:31 AM   
mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: MyMasterStephen

It never ceases to annoy me how many people ask what the rules are in BDSM...

THERE ARE NO RULES EXCEPT THOSE THAT YOU AGREE WITH YOUR DOM / DOMME / SUB / SLAVE...

If you don't like the regime that a Dom is offering, then move on and find another whose regime you DO like.


Hear! Hear!  this should be posted on milk cartons right beside the pictures of missing children----

and check my sigline.

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RE: Housework?? - 5/20/2007 5:50:31 AM   
MHOO314


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Status: offline 		Amen Ron and MS  Yes subs and slaves do housework, some no strings, some with strings, some with their Dominants because there is a thing out there called "real life"---some don't do any at all--the best do what has been agreed upon between the D and the s--- check it out before you sign on the dotted line.
 
And yes, My sub or slaves have and will do housework---we ALL do in this house--its a  fact of life.

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RE: Housework?? - 5/20/2007 6:03:35 AM   
spankmepink11


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Yes, I do require some form of domestic service.  I relate it back to the skills thread that was active earlier today.  I see domestics as what One might consider 'non-skilled' submission.  OK, you don't know how to unlock My computer, but I'm sure you know how to dust My computer desk.  You may not know about much to grow My a flower bed, but I'm sure you have the aptitude to mow My lawn.  You may not have the interest level to read the books that I find fascinating, but I'm sure you can organize them and straighten the bookcase.  Can't give the best massage in the world, but I'm almost certain you can draw My bath and lay My clothes out for an evening at home.



I'm sure you don't mean to imply that those who enjoy domestic tasks are mindless, unskilled drones.

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RE: Housework?? - 5/20/2007 7:03:21 AM   
daddysliloneds


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Status: offline 		in all my years, i've yet to be owned by anyone who expected or required me to do housework for them; when i did do it, it was out of my own desire and no other reason...

then again, the dominants that i've belonged to were always capable of domming their own trash to the curb, so to speak.

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RE: Housework?? - 5/20/2007 7:07:47 AM   
LadyPact


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ORIGINAL: spankmepink11

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Yes, I do require some form of domestic service.  I relate it back to the skills thread that was active earlier today.  I see domestics as what One might consider 'non-skilled' submission.  OK, you don't know how to unlock My computer, but I'm sure you know how to dust My computer desk.  You may not know about much to grow My a flower bed, but I'm sure you have the aptitude to mow My lawn.  You may not have the interest level to read the books that I find fascinating, but I'm sure you can organize them and straighten the bookcase.  Can't give the best massage in the world, but I'm almost certain you can draw My bath and lay My clothes out for an evening at home.



I'm sure you don't mean to imply that those who enjoy domestic tasks are mindless, unskilled drones.


No.  I very much mean that, as opposed to specific skills, such as gourmet cooking, or having a degree in engineering, there is nothing wrong with simple everyday things.  They please Me just as much as the complicated things.

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RE: Housework?? - 5/20/2007 7:20:44 AM   
DiurnalVampire


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ORIGINAL: Kitte9

I've seen many posts regarding slaves who are expected to do housework. I've even seen references to 'no strings' housework. Are subs also expected to do such chores, or are these things something you discuss before entering the service of a domme?

I see no difference between a slave and a sub when it comes to most things. The chores someone is expected to do to make my life easier is strictly that.  They have been kept by me for exactly that reason, they make my life easier and better.  Sometimes, that means doing a chore I do not want to do. Not every one of my pets has been expected to do housework, some have not done so to standards I likes, others we didnt have enough time together to spend part of it on chores. It is something that greaty depends onthe relationship and what your Domme wants, not on a written in stone rule. EVeryone is going to expect something different.

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RE: Housework?? - 5/20/2007 10:43:44 AM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		Well, all of this is well and good, if you deny physical phenomenon----

The thing is, the world devolves to chaos in our measly little lives, someone must manage the garbage----

It is necessary, it is needful and it is appreciated.  But it very FUCKIN' is.

If not you, WHO?  If not now, WHEN?

Day to day living arrangements are gonna be what they are, the thing is--
you can take the fuckin' garbage out and say. oh, woe is me, I am surrounded by filthy dysentery, or------
you can say that I have done a significant service---
both are true----
which shall be carved on your gravestone?


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RE: Housework?? - 5/20/2007 11:32:33 AM   
LadyPact


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Status: offline 		Ok, Ron, come take out the garbage then.

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RE: Housework?? - 5/20/2007 7:31:53 PM   
Kitte9


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quote:

you can take the fuckin' garbage out and say. oh, woe is me, I am surrounded by filthy dysentery, or------
you can say that I have done a significant service---
both are true----
which shall be carved on your gravestone?


Ron(ne)





Wow! Like that choo choo of thought! Well spoken!

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RE: Housework?? - 5/28/2007 12:04:33 PM   
GoddessKai


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Status: offline 		Mine are always required to do some kind of housework. A clean space is a peaceful space, and I'd much rather a submissive or slave busy themselves with that than sit at My feet awaiting My every command. I like time to Myself, and giving chores to a submissive is a way for them to please Me but still give Me the time that I need by Myself.

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RE: Housework?? - 5/28/2007 1:38:12 PM   
YesMistressIrish


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Status: offline 		I am sitting here reading what you all said: Craving more real time as apposed to lip-service.
 
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RE: Housework?? - 5/28/2007 3:41:42 PM   
pixelslave


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
I see domestics as what One might consider 'non-skilled' submission.  OK, you don't know how to unlock My computer, but I'm sure you know how to dust My computer desk.  You may not know about much to grow My a flower bed, but I'm sure you have the aptitude to mow My lawn.  You may not have the interest level to read the books that I find fascinating, but I'm sure you can organize them and straighten the bookcase.  Can't give the best massage in the world, but I'm almost certain you can draw My bath and lay My clothes out for an evening at home.

These are all simple, mundane things that require no special skill in particular, except knowing how I like things, and therefore pleasing Me.  Little signs of devotion that show that a submissive is in this with Me for more than just the kinky sex.  I want to be shown they are in it to please Me, and receive My gratitude for their effort in return.  I don't think that's a far stretch for anyone who sincerely believes themselves to be submissive.


Lady Pact,
I like the way you've phrased what you've said.  To me it really is about the little signs of devotion and submission to one's Mistress.  How the cleaning gets done, hired out, assigned to one's unmentionables , or is split between two parties is rather irrelevant.
 
quote:
Kitte, you have come up with some excellent threads recently.  Keep them coming.


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