ShadeDiva -> RE: o====·.,¸,.-·<ŦHΞ LΞGÂL BΞÂGÂLo====·.,¸,.-·<sniffing out legal news of BDSM interest (6/12/2004 12:24:53 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Estring Some people will use any occasion to push their agenda. What we have here are criminals. Child abusers and drug addicts. Yet they are being touted by some as crusaders for our rights. These people don't represent me. They are criminals. This is what happens when an agenda is pushed. In this society, some actions are wrong. And that trumps any rights we have. We don't have the right to abuse children. And whether you own a dungeon or not makes no difference. How anyone can make the dungeon the focal point of this story is a mystery to me. Not sure about the agenda thing - must be missing something - not too surprising, considering. Anyway, I don't care who were the parents, sexual abuse is sexual abuse. Strapping a kid to a wheel, which a paper said the guy was *charged* with - doesn't need to appear in 3 papers for me to believe it, I'm assuming the police report - which would be a matter of public record would be all that is required to see if they were in fact CHARGED with that - I'm assuming the investigators here would be able to get their hands on that document for additional discussion of what they might have actually been charged with if the papers are being questioned as to their validity of reporting. If it didn't make it to court, it doesn't mean it didn't happen - if they were charged with it, then someone likely SAID something that they later shut up about. And they didn't bring it up in court because they couldn't make it stick, so would have been wasted to even try. The fact is, these kids were ABUSED. This means they aren't the only ones. I'm glad the child was removed from the home, I hope she gets tons of therapy, and a loving home. At no time does it make it okay - BDSM lifestyle be DAMNED if it means choosing between it and a child being abused, as far as I am concerned, kids are the highest priority humans have. I'll choose the kid every single time. They do NOT represent me either. In fact I denounce them as being related to me in ANY shape or form, and I sincerely wish they'd gotten a LIFE sentence. Leaving kids in YOUR home on YOUR premises with other people simply is stupid, and yes, it makes YOU fully accountable, period. *Especially* with a pool. And too if they'd done nothing wrong they'd not needed the 7 year old to shut up. People that try to get their kids to shut up to the police are HIDING something. And I have no doubt in my heart that the sexual abuse was known and condoned in that household - in my experience with abused kids and with drug addicts, the parents or guardians are ALWAYS training the children to remain quiet and keep the family secrets - the pure act of them trying to get the kid to shut up says it ALL for me. Shit was going on around children that SHOULDN'T have been. Period. Anyone that defends creeps like this as far as I'm concerned is unbalanced and unstable and prolly sees nothing wrong with whatever the children were likely subjected to and that to me says they'd likely feel that doing those things were *okay*. So thus, I'd group them in the same boat and hope that someone brings them down a hell of a lot harder than these assholes were. THREE years old and sexually abused! My god, such a short life and to be filled with such pain - just fucking wrong. Anyone that condones that is just as sick as the person that does it. Makes me ill. Literally. Poor kids. Breaks my heart. Yes this is my opinion, and yes it's a VERY strong one. If you don't like it, wah. If that was MY kid - I'd be the one arrested - for murder, flat out. I'd destroy someone that did that to my kid, police had better get to ME first to restrain me - all I gotta say. ~ShadeDiva
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