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Calling all Male Dominants - 4/30/2007 12:18:00 PM   
proudlyspoiled


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Status: offline 		I have a question and I am directing it toward male Dominants as it is who is effected when pertaining to me. 

Do you feel/believe that a female switch cannot be 100% submissive to a owner while maintaining a purely dominant side with all others?

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RE: Calling all Male Dominants - 4/30/2007 12:27:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Everyones different so I suppose it would be possible but rather risky for a Dom

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RE: Calling all Male Dominants - 4/30/2007 12:28:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: proudlyspoiled

I have a question and I am directing it toward male Dominants as it is who is effected when pertaining to me. 

Do you feel/believe that a female switch cannot be 100% submissive to a owner while maintaining a purely dominant side with all others?


I think it depends on thier agreements-and how well they are honored.

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RE: Calling all Male Dominants - 4/30/2007 12:30:42 PM   
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ie VP or CEO of big company dom yes?? but is submissive at home??
so is that person a switch??

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RE: Calling all Male Dominants - 4/30/2007 12:33:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Risky for a Dom?  Why would you say THAT?  Wow...
 
I love to Top men and am perhaps a switch, but in no way do I see that as affecting my relationship with any Dom/me I know!
 
There is huge group of persons like myself, who find being on top something that does not flip within a scene or with some perceived abandon; my interests in this area do not allow me to switch with the same person.  Instead I am either very submissive OR I'm kinda dominant and decidedly Toppy.  But, the activities mix about as well as bowling and baseball.
 
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RE: Calling all Male Dominants - 4/30/2007 12:33:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: proudlyspoiled
Do you feel/believe that a female switch cannot be 100% submissive to a owner while maintaining a purely dominant side with all others?

When talking about personal intimate relationships, of course you can be owned by someone and still be dominant in all other relationships.  It's not that uncommon at all.

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RE: Calling all Male Dominants - 4/30/2007 12:34:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think that if the female switch is capable to submit 100% to a Dominant while dominating others, then yes.
I've been able to do it with those that I Dom and sub to, wouldn't see why someone else couldn't.


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RE: Calling all Male Dominants - 4/30/2007 12:34:52 PM   
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RE: Calling all Male Dominants - 4/30/2007 12:36:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		As I've said, before; I think we ALL take dominant and submissive positions in different relationships. I'll give two quick examples:
 
Hopefully, a female submissive dominates her children so that she is a good mother.
 
I, as a dominant, tend to submit to whomever is signing my paycheck (or their representative) to maintain employment.
 
Okay, having said those things, I don't think someone who's a "switch" can be "100% submissive" in ANY (personal) relationship so, I think the premise is moot. If I accept the conditions, I guess I would answer "Yes" but, as I said, I think we're starting off with a flawed resolution.
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: Calling all Male Dominants - 4/30/2007 12:38:02 PM   
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Do you feel/believe that a female switch cannot be 100% submissive to a owner while maintaining a purely dominant side with all others?

100% is where you fall down sweetie. That takes you, to My mind, the way I read it... into slave territory, 24/7 ownership and no I don't believe you can. In acknowledging you are switch means you need ti express both sides of your nature.... that means needing time out from the dynamic with the Dominant so you are in control and can be Dominant with your submissive.

I've had switches before as subs on lower level dynamics, but when you talk about 100%... I will NEVER consider a switch when I am looking for My 24/7 slave (Hopefully a moot point, as I'm no longer seeking and with luck, won't need to again :) )


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RE: Calling all Male Dominants - 4/30/2007 12:41:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: proudlyspoiled

I have a question and I am directing it toward male Dominants as it is who is effected when pertaining to me. 

Do you feel/believe that a female switch cannot be 100% submissive to a owner while maintaining a purely dominant side with all others?


I think that it blows the concept of exclusivity all to hell if he wanted you all to himself and your full devotion which of course you see yourself giving as long as you can dominate others.. who in return would have to share you with your dominant.  I see everyone in your circle as PRN for you.
 
Just my opinion.

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RE: Calling all Male Dominants - 4/30/2007 12:42:26 PM   
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that means needing time out from the dynamic with the Dominant so you are in control and can be Dominant with your submissive.

Only in the same way that a slave would take "time out" from their dynamic to go have dinner and a movie with a friend who needed some companionship.

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RE: Calling all Male Dominants - 4/30/2007 12:45:26 PM   
proudlyspoiled


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Status: offline 		Ok just to clarify, I am definitely dominant with my professional life and for the most part, majority of the people I know say their first impression of me is dominant which is fine.  I sub, I like to sub, and with the right person can stay in a sub position with them, but certain things may trigger that natural dominant position.  And outside of that ONE person I would say I am more dominant. 

I am not saying per say that I would be topping other people only that I have the two side of my personality 

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RE: Calling all Male Dominants - 4/30/2007 12:46:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

quote:

ORIGINAL: RavenMuse
that means needing time out from the dynamic with the Dominant so you are in control and can be Dominant with your submissive.

Only in the same way that a slave would take "time out" from their dynamic to go have dinner and a movie with a friend who needed some companionship.


Not in the slightest. she is still Mine at work, still Mine when out with friends, My control, limits expectations, My structure is still there whether we are together or not. I Own her and that doesn't just switch off, nor does My responcibility for her..

To be Dominant, she'd have to step away from that control, those rules... Else she isn't the one in control, not Dominant at all, simply Topping under the wing of My control, My Dominance.... following My rules, not setting her own.


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RE: Calling all Male Dominants - 4/30/2007 12:48:18 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

quote:

ORIGINAL: RavenMuse
that means needing time out from the dynamic with the Dominant so you are in control and can be Dominant with your submissive.


Only in the same way that a slave would take "time out" from their dynamic to go have dinner and a movie with a friend who needed some companionship.


Exactly, LA.  Aren't we right back to the idea that a bi-sexual person can't be in a monogomus relationship?  <shakes head>  Of COURSE we can be! 
 
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RE: Calling all Male Dominants - 4/30/2007 12:53:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MsBearlee

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

quote:

ORIGINAL: RavenMuse
that means needing time out from the dynamic with the Dominant so you are in control and can be Dominant with your submissive.


Only in the same way that a slave would take "time out" from their dynamic to go have dinner and a movie with a friend who needed some companionship.


Exactly, LA.  Aren't we right back to the idea that a bi-sexual person can't be in a monogomus relationship?  <shakes head>  Of COURSE we can be! 
 
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I always wondered what people were so afraid of......

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RE: Calling all Male Dominants - 4/30/2007 12:54:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

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ORIGINAL: RavenMuse
that means needing time out from the dynamic with the Dominant so you are in control and can be Dominant with your submissive.

Only in the same way that a slave would take "time out" from their dynamic to go have dinner and a movie with a friend who needed some companionship.


Not in the slightest. she is still Mine at work, still Mine when out with friends, My control, limits expectations, My structure is still there whether we are together or not. I Own her and that doesn't just switch off, nor does My responcibility for her..

To be Dominant, she'd have to step away from that control, those rules... Else she isn't the one in control, not Dominant at all, simply Topping under the wing of My control, My Dominance.... following My rules, not setting her own. 


But Raven, Sir...  If I were yours would you have rules for EXACTLY how I should wash your dishes or clean your house?  Were I to belong to someone, and have a submissive...it would ONLY be with the knowledge and blessing of my Dominant.  Generally speaking...he'd have about as much interest in THAT as he would in a sewing bee I might belong to.
 
Okay...unless my submissive were female...   LMAO
 
Of course, I'd have a job he approved of, too, but within that job HE would not be making the rules and telling me what to do there.  ...I'm just sayin'  I can easily belong to and follow all the rules of a Dominant and still have a submissive of my own who I guide and lead in the way I desire. 
 
All this of course, with his blessing and only IF we had a poly-relationship that, in fact, included other people. 
 
It's all good,
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RE: Calling all Male Dominants - 4/30/2007 12:55:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RavenMuse
To be Dominant, she'd have to step away from that control, those rules... Else she isn't the one in control, not Dominant at all, simply Topping under the wing of My control, My Dominance.... following My rules, not setting her own.

Only if she was disobeying you.  If you allowed it as part of the relationship, even felt it helped her be a better slave to you, then it wouldn't be an issue at all.

I understand if it's not your preference or not something which would work for you- but it certainly is possible to be a slave to a master and be a dominant to others.

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RE: Calling all Male Dominants - 4/30/2007 1:00:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		To be a Dominant, to be a Master, the buck stops there. You are the one in charge, the one responcible. Those who try to do this whilst under anothers control I will never see as doing more than playing at it. The buck doesn't stop there, they are Owned property, the buck stops with their Master.

100% means no time off, no time at which the dynamic is not in place, no time at which you are not Owned... ergo, no space to be properly Dominant, have that other dynamic.... something a switch can't do, not and remain a switch.

IMO... of course


< Message edited by RavenMuse -- 4/30/2007 1:01:21 PM >

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RE: Calling all Male Dominants - 4/30/2007 1:00:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe I'm too vague in my postings, let me elaborate.

If I have specific understandings with say-a switch. And we both know what we expect from each other-and then do so-I have nothing to worry about.

She isn't going to try to switch with me-against my wishes. (realizing it would be a deal breaker)

If either of us breaks the deal-it's over. And if we are not the sort to honor that-we had no business getting involved to begin with.

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