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Where can I learn about the different protocols?? - 5/2/2007 11:46:17 AM   
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Ok, I am slowly learning about the different “kinds”, “types”, or “schools of thought” on BDSM; such as Old Guard, Gorean, etc.  But I am still unclear about them all.  Where can I go (online) that will give me a description of the different teachings and protocol?
Thank you all!

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RE: Where can I learn about the different protocols?? - 5/2/2007 12:03:48 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BlackSakura

Ok, I am slowly learning about the different “kinds”, “types”, or “schools of thought” on BDSM; such as Old Guard, Gorean, etc.  But I am still unclear about them all.  Where can I go (online) that will give me a description of the different teachings and protocol?
Thank you all!


Greetings,

If you wish to learn about Gor buy the books and actually read them.

Some debate whether or not Old Gaurd even existed.

Protocol in general can be learned through a book of etiquette such as Emily Post. What you learned in kindergarten will also go along way. If it's not yours, don't touch it. Play nice with others and keep your voice down so you don't disturb others. If in doubt ask.

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RE: Where can I learn about the different protocols?? - 5/2/2007 12:12:20 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BlackSakura

Ok, I am slowly learning about the different “kinds”, “types”, or “schools of thought” on BDSM; such as Old Guard, Gorean, etc.  But I am still unclear about them all.  Where can I go (online) that will give me a description of the different teachings and protocol?
Thank you all!


There is no universal accepted concept of "protocol" (i.e. rule book) this is why you won't find a book on the shelf or a web site online that claims to be the know all to protocol on any modality.

You can pick any of the modalities, you mentioned two.. Old Guard & Gorean... & you will find one group who identifies as Old Guard & find they don't agree with another group that identifies as Old Guard..... & so on & so on.

There are basic principles that many can agree on & most will agree that protocol is pretty much open to interpretation & is very much based on personal choice.

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RE: Where can I learn about the different protocols?? - 5/2/2007 12:13:31 PM   
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 A Modern Application Of Old Guard Philosophy
http://www.leathernroses.com/generalbdsm/missyoldguard.htm

AN ESSAY ABOUT "THE OLD DAYS"
http://www.iron-rose.com/IR/docs/olddays.htm

Aspects of Protocol
http://www.leatherquest.com/education/protocol.htm

BDSM Manners & Traditions
http://www.evilmonk.org/A/manners.cfm

Basic Protocol and Etiquette
http://fetishexchange.org/protocol-and-etiquette.shtml

D/s Rituals
http://www.castlerealm.com/library/dsrituals.shtml

Dinner with protocol
http://www.sensuoussadie.com/articles/dovebdsmdinner.htm

Dinner with protocol 2
http://members.aol.com/SRABANDE/MastersDinner.html

Frugal Domme's General Scene Etiquette Tips
http://www.frugaldomme.com/etiquette/default.htm

Old Guard, New Guard
http://www.black-rose.com/cuiru/archive/4-2/oldguard.html

Old Guard? If You say so.
http://www.iron-rose.com/IR/docs/old_guard.htm

One Dom's Protocol for his sub
http://www.westom.com/leather/protocol.htm

Protocol For The boy And The slave
http://www.bearpair.com/slavemike/rules.htm

Sweet Services For Submissives
http://gloriabrame.com/domidea/dompoe.htm

THE OLD GUARD (The History of Leather Traditions)
http://www.tdl.com/~thawley/oldgd.html

The Myth of the Old Guard
http://www.leatherviews.com/kinkyinfo/9930.htm


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RE: Where can I learn about the different protocols?? - 5/2/2007 12:14:18 PM   
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Hi -

this site is useful in linking you to many other sites about various lifestyles
http://www.domsubfriends.com/cgi-local/wwwdir/db.cgi?db=rescat&uid=default&category=*&view_records=View+Records&dc=3

Also, i found there is a lot to be learned by asking various  Dominants or slaves/subs  :)

Hope this helps some
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RE: Where can I learn about the different protocols?? - 5/2/2007 1:35:18 PM   
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For every person there is a different set of protocals.

For every relationship there is a different set of protocals

For every community there is a different set of protocals

You learn by interacting with others.  But remember.. what works with one... may not be the case with another.

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RE: Where can I learn about the different protocols?? - 5/2/2007 4:33:14 PM   
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Sakura

For every person there is a different set of protocals.

For every relationship there is a different set of protocals

For every community there is a different set of protocals

You learn by interacting with others.  But remember.. what works with one... may not be the case with another.


Very well said.  Regardless of what you learn and read, someone will misinterpret it lol.

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RE: Where can I learn about the different protocols?? - 5/3/2007 1:11:09 AM   
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Thank you all!!!  Yay ^_^

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RE: Where can I learn about the different protocols?? - 5/3/2007 1:32:51 AM   
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Contrary, probably, to Melissa, I would suggest buying the Gorean books but not paying too much attention to every detail within them.  They are in the end 25 fictional novels that are poorly written.  Pay more attention to the core beliefs within them.
As KnightMists said, when it comes to positions/protocol or what not, each Master will expect you to learn whichever positions/protocols he has use for.  I'll also echo that the best way to learn anything is to interact with those that are in the know.

Edit
Oops.  I was foolish enough to make the assumption that you were a sub.  Sorry.


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RE: Where can I learn about the different protocols?? - 5/3/2007 1:45:04 AM   
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And hey BlackSakura, just when you think you've got it down pat and you know what the right way is, someone will come along and disagree with you LOL. So read as much as you can but be aware that in all this ultimately you find your own road.

Good luck on your travels


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RE: Where can I learn about the different protocols?? - 5/3/2007 4:40:15 AM   
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http://www.amazon.com/Protocol-Handbook-Leather-Slave-Practice/dp/1887895159/ref=sr_1_4/103-6566472-4101413?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178192386&sr=8-4

A book that is written on Leather protocol.

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RE: Where can I learn about the different protocols?? - 5/3/2007 5:56:36 AM   
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It is great to read about protocols however but interaction others is a vital part of growth and understanding of what you want as a Top or as sub/slave/bottom.  Anyway there is an NLA chapter in Austin here is the link for you.  http://www.nla-austin.org/
Good Luck 

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RE: Where can I learn about the different protocols?? - 5/3/2007 7:51:19 AM   
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Midori says it best in her book Wild Side Sex "A successful set of protocol serves the greater purpose and needs of the relationship and the community that the relationship functions within."

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RE: Where can I learn about the different protocols?? - 5/3/2007 6:46:10 PM   
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Madame Butterfly
Thanks for the link. The book I linked to was written by one of the members of NLA Austin. Unfortunately, NLA Austin folded about 3 years ago. Prior to that I enjoyed attending many of their meetings.

~Ms. Elorin

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