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White terrorist ring busted in AL - 5/2/2007 11:51:35 AM

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Guess terrorism isn't just a dark-skinned phenomenon?

Agent says militia targeted Hispanics
Posted by Birmingham News staff
May 02, 2007 4:15 AM

The heavily armed Alabama Free Militia planned to attack a group of Hispanics in Blount County and had orders to open fire immediately if they saw the feds coming, an ATF agent said Tuesday.

Adam Nesmith of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives testified during a federal court hearing that the men had a plan to attack a group of Mexicans in the Remlap area with machine guns.

Nesmith said two of the men and a confidential informant went on a reconnaissance mission to Remlap on April 20, six days before federal, state and local law enforcement officers carried out last Thursday's raids in four Alabama counties, confiscating truckloads of explosives, 130 grenades and 2,500 rounds of ammunition.

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2007/05/agent_says_militia_targeted_hi.html

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RE: White terrorist ring busted in AL - 5/2/2007 11:55:17 AM

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The KKK was committing acts of terrorism long before Al-Qaeda was ... I don't think any reasonable person has any reservations about such a statement. Anyone is capable of terrorism, and I hope that if they are found guilty that they're punished to the maximum extent that the law allows.

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RE: White terrorist ring busted in AL - 5/2/2007 12:06:58 PM

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I just wish the Feds would do their job and enforce our immigration laws like they're *supposed* to be doing so we wouldn't be having things like this happening!
Where can I get a good paying job where I don't have to do my job?
The Feds should be Embarrassed as hell that groups like The Minutemen even have to exist.

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RE: White terrorist ring busted in AL - 5/2/2007 12:14:00 PM

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I just wish the Feds would do their job and enforce our immigration laws like they're *supposed* to be doing so we wouldn't be having things like this happening!
Where can I get a good paying job where I don't have to do my job?
The Feds should be Embarrassed as hell that groups like The Minutemen even have to exist.

For the record, I also agree completely with that point. I don't understand why we treat European immigrants like trash, making them obey all the rules and wait for years to get into this country, yet we basically give everyone who hops the fence a free pass. Becoming an American citizen is worth far more than that.

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RE: White terrorist ring busted in AL - 5/2/2007 12:35:09 PM

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I don't understand why we treat European immigrants like trash, making them obey all the rules and wait for years to get into this country, yet we basically give everyone who hops the fence a free pass.

Yah, it's a hard life for European immigrants!

Illegal? Better if you're Irish
An estimated 30,000 undocumented immigrants who aren't Latino live a more native-born life in New York.
Los Angeles Times
April 8, 2007

Woodlawn, The Bronx — IMAGINE HILLARY Clinton holding up a T-shirt that read: "Legalize Mexicans." That's not going to happen, right?

Well, last month in Washington, at a rally hosted by the Irish Lobby for Immigration Reform, the leading Democratic candidate for president actually did have her picture taken holding a shirt that read: "Legalize the Irish." That's the lobby's in-your-face slogan, which says a lot about the role that race (and ethnicity) plays in the debate about illegal immigration. Latino activists bend over backward trying to cloak undocumented Mexican migrants in the slogan "We are America," but their Irish counterparts don't feel similarly obliged.

There are an estimated 50,000 Irish illegal immigrants in the U.S.; 30,000 of them are thought to live in New York City. Today, this tiny corner in the northern reaches of the Bronx is perhaps the most heavily Irish-born neighborhood in New York, and advocates believe that as many as 40% of local immigrants are undocumented.

...

Her friend, contractor Dermot Byrne, who also is here illegally, agrees. "From my experience, we're not singled out. If someone's driving down the street and they see five Mexican guys on one side and five Irish guys on the other, they're going to think that the Mexicans are illegal, even though it could be the other way around."

Despite his status, Byrne has placed a pro-immigration-reform sticker on his car, as well as Irish versions of an "I love Jalisco" decal that identify his and his wife's home counties in the old country.

Irish immigrant advocates are acutely aware that the American public doesn't identify the Irish as alien, let alone illegal, and they consciously leverage this positive prejudice to their advantage.

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But whites' more favorable view of illegal immigrants who look like them may not translate to the growing number of Americans whose ancestors do not hail from Europe. The Pakistani-born cab driver who took me from the subway station to Katonah Avenue said he generally found Irish immigrants to be nice, as well as good tippers. "But they won't rent you an apartment around here if you're not Irish," he said. "They don't want to mix with other races."

Damn immigrants.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-rodriguez8apr08,0,7661039.column?coll=la-opinion-columnists

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RE: White terrorist ring busted in AL - 5/2/2007 12:40:47 PM

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Prosecutor Michael Whisonant had asked that the men be detained, saying they were flight risks and a danger to society.

whos society? not ours.

2500 rounds of ammo is a joke, they make it sound like that is a lot. 250,000 is a lot LOL

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RE: White terrorist ring busted in AL - 5/2/2007 12:43:03 PM

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I think it does highlight that heavy handed gun control can't stop this kind of stuff. Not when any idiot with a truck, some fuel oil, and some fertilizer can kill thousands.

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RE: White terrorist ring busted in AL - 5/2/2007 12:50:27 PM

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Yah, it's a hard life for European immigrants!

Allow me to clarify ... Legal immigrants. I should not have categorized every European immigrant as being "legal," but it was a quick post. Despite that, the number of illegal immigrants of any nationality that does not share an unprotected border with the United States are remarkably lower than the number who are flooding into this country every day through Mexico. If you want to paint me as a racist after I just agreed that your "white terrorists" should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, feel free. Perhaps your overwhelming eagerness to point out the fact that they were white in the first place is reflective of something ... ?

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RE: White terrorist ring busted in AL - 5/2/2007 12:51:27 PM

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Well, there are only three "races", Mongoloid, Caucasoid, Negroid.
"Hispanic" is not a "race" it is an ethnic group just like Celtic (Irish) Berber, or Saxon.
Anyone or group who is trying to cull some type of "advantage" by trying to play a "race card" is pissing into the wind.
It has nothing to do about "race" and *everything* to do about Legal Status.
It's really none of their business how we do things in OUR country!
As much as they may wish so, the U.S. is *NOT* their country!
And being of Irish descent and also having dual American/Irish Citizenship I would arrest and deport the illegal Irish FIRST, just to set the example!
It makes absolutely no difference where someone is from, if they're in MY country illegally they need to G.T.F.O.!

I could never understand why anyone would want to be somewhere where they are obviously not welcome.

Realone, yes, I probably have 6-7,000 rounds here.
But, I have 8 different calibers of weapons.
That's really not "a lot" of ammo-2,500 rounds.
If I see a good deal on ammo I might buy 500 or 1,000 rounds at a time. It saves a lot of money buying in bulk like that!
If I can get 10 boxes of ammo for $13 per box as opposed to $17 for one box that's $40 I save!

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RE: White terrorist ring busted in AL - 5/2/2007 1:32:01 PM

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popeye;

You have redeemed yourself in the eyes of us crazoids who believe tha the Constitution still exists. People who believe a natural balance can be achieved in a true republic.

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RE: White terrorist ring busted in AL - 5/2/2007 2:02:44 PM

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More specifically, "RACE" is a term which has no meaning to a physical anthropologist.

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RE: White terrorist ring busted in AL - 5/2/2007 2:18:43 PM

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Fanatics come in all shapes, sizes, creeds, religions, and colors.
It doesnt matter what their doctrine is or whose side their on, a fanatic is a dangerous breed of beast that needs to handled promptly when discovered.
The really sad thing about that group in AL is that for the most part they'll be found guilty of misdemeanor offenses, slapped on the wrist, and released back into society to become matyrs for other fanatics of the same doctrine to follow.
I can't find any referance to them having been immigrants though, looks like this is part of a good old home cooked american apple pie.

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RE: White terrorist ring busted in AL - 5/2/2007 2:32:08 PM

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More specifically, "RACE" is a term which has no meaning to a physical anthropologist.

Fargle, tell that to "La Raza", means, "the race".

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RE: White terrorist ring busted in AL - 5/2/2007 2:39:30 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

I just wish the Feds would do their job and enforce our immigration laws like they're *supposed* to be doing so we wouldn't be having things like this happening!
Where can I get a good paying job where I don't have to do my job?
The Feds should be Embarrassed as hell that groups like The Minutemen even have to exist.

Put a handsome frame around this, make it the OP, tack and lock the thread. Nothing more need be said, other than the more it goes on, the more we'll see such plots (eventually on both sides)

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RE: White terrorist ring busted in AL - 5/2/2007 4:17:05 PM

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Pulp, true.
What we're witnessing I think is a breakdown in our govt.
They're tied down with red tape, rules, regulations that won't allow them to do their jobs.
Big business has basically bought our government and uses it for their own interests.
Everything that Bush does benefits big business!

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RE: White terrorist ring busted in AL - 5/2/2007 7:19:20 PM

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Where can I get a good paying job where I don't have to do my job?

[sarcasm]

That is a truly defeatist attitude and representative of the lack of a good work ethic in modern society.

[/sarcasm]

You need to take my approach, popeye, which is to get people to pay you boatloads of money to sit around and play on the internet, go to the beach with a pager, or express your morpheme.

That whole actually working at a job thing is so 1980s.

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RE: White terrorist ring busted in AL - 5/2/2007 7:53:45 PM

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More specifically, "RACE" is a term which has no meaning to a physical anthropologist.

Correct

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RE: White terrorist ring busted in AL - 5/2/2007 8:31:01 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

quote:

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More specifically, "RACE" is a term which has no meaning to a physical anthropologist.

Fargle, tell that to "La Raza", means, "the race".

I'm talking about science, not the Identity Marketing.

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RE: White terrorist ring busted in AL - 5/2/2007 8:32:05 PM

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Where can I get a good paying job where I don't have to do my job?

FEMA is hiring.

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RE: White terrorist ring busted in AL - 5/2/2007 9:02:52 PM

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Where can I get a good paying job where I don't have to do my job?

FEMA is hiring.

I thought their job was to fuck up two car parades. At least that is what Reagan said it was.

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