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RE: Control - 5/4/2007 11:05:58 PM   
juliaoceania


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So, with the backstory out of the way, my question is this (mainly directed at my fellow dominants, but I very much encourage anyone and everyone with a perspective on the subject to post here): do you feel that the control we so highly prize can be an emotional liability? Is the sacrifice of feelings, for lack of a better phrase, worth it? I'm sure that there are some dominants out there who are capable of the sort of feeling that I'm not, and I'd like to hear from you, as well.


For many years I was shut down emotionally. I lived in my head. I did not cry that much although I had a hot temper sometimes. My saving grace was my son, or I think I would have become totally in my head. Dealing with emotions was just too much for me. I intellectualized everything, which only got worse when I was in college. Right toward the end of college I began to have panic attacks which went great with my pre-existing phobia of driving. I relate this because it is related to pushing it down. The phobia started when my father passed away, and I shut down my crying response.

Now as I have aged, the pain of keeping in the pain increased, no longer was I numb, I was a basketcase there for a while, and then something happened... I cried. I thought either the crying would heal me or kill me. I could not stop crying... I would lay in bed and bawl, soulful bawling. My family worried, but I told them it was something I just had to do... I went to therapy (which did not help, but the crying sure did).

I felt stupid at times crying like this, because they were the tears I missed out on over two decades before, because I was told on a couple of occasions not to cry then. But a weird coincidence, I was reading Jane Fonda's autobiography and she spoke about losing her mother when she was a couple of years younger than I was... and she talked about not crying, not feeling, and she talked about how when she finally found her tears a couple of decades later she could not stop crying... and I did not feel alone

I do not think it is necessarily a dominant thing to be in complete control over one's emotions by pushing them down. I was a mere slip of a girl when I managed to do it, and I did it after a loss so devastating to me it colored the rest of my life. There are many healthy and unhealthy mechanisms to control oneself, but truthfully, if we push things down to the point where we do not feel anymore at all, no deep joy or love... what is the use of it all?

My idea of what makes my Daddy "dominant" is that he controls his emotions appropriately, he feels things, he just does not act upon his feelings all the time. He controls the feelings by acknowledging them. At least this is what I have noticed by observing him.

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RE: Control - 5/4/2007 11:10:50 PM   
Satyr6406


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The family in which I was raised would have no truck with emotions. I vividly remember, when my grandmother died, my step-dad gave me 15 minutes to cry, after explaining that I was crying out of selfishness because I would never see her again (She was ill for a looooong time, before God took her). I still carry a bit of that, to this day (in regards to deaths).
 
When it comes to other matters, I have absolutely no problem showing emotion. I am probably a bit too emotional, if I am motivated, to that point. I'm not likely to cry at the drop of a hat but, when I see news stories and such about abused children, I start to well up and change the channel.
 
In my inter-personal relationships, I am the same way. I, pretty much, wear my heart on my sleeve. But, it's interesting how this is only true, in my personal life.
 
When I was in the Army and, later, in law enforcement, I didn't even allow my co-workers to really know "who I was". It wasn't the time for it. There was always "a job to do".
 
I'm not sure that I benefitted from this and, in the end, I couldn't keep the two "Michaels" separate because I wound up leaving the job because of my personal views and emotions in relation to how I felt about the job I was doing. I guess "professionalism" could only carry me so far and looking in the mirror without being ashamed was more important than I thought, initially.
 
 
 
 
 
Peace and comfort,
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: Control - 5/4/2007 11:39:18 PM   
phoenixinchains


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   LA is so right, subs can be such control-freaks, and i'm a serous offender. long time ago,,,,emotionally, no one could see how i felt, for weakness attracts preditors. i feel i have resolved this issue to the fullest it can be dealt with at this point. well, at times i now hit the other extreme of the topic, but the balance is will come. trusting my Mate has been a saving grace...
  and just because i've tried to follow AquaticSub's posting i'm throwing this out there. i found a great outlet for my contol-freakyness was world generation in d&d. the creative aspect is great, and then when Y/you're done, Y/you get to feel that pride emotion : )           phoenix

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RE: Control - 5/5/2007 5:41:28 AM   
SunNMoon


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ORIGINAL: Valyraen

SunNMoon,
Aqua has been an enormous help for me in widening the breadth and depth of my emotionality. She makes me glow in a way that I haven't felt in a very long time (and I'm feeling the prickle of tears at the back of my eyes just writing that) and has been a wonderful influence getting me to lighten up about myself and take everything with a little more laughter.

Thank you all for the insights, for the questions, and even for the advice (still also grappling with that young-male problem of stupid pride and never asking for help). I feel better even simply knowing that I'm not the only one grappling with this problem, and heartened that there's hope.


Valyraen, I’m getting all teary eyed reading that. Everyone can see how much you love each other. Aqua sounds like the perfect person for you, I’m so happy you found each other.
 
I know I always worry about loving Love deeply enough. He’s helped me open up so much. So I can just imagine Aqua doing the same. 
Kat

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RE: Control - 5/5/2007 8:01:08 AM   
MadRabbit


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ORIGINAL: Valyraen

MadRabbit,
I don't really have the words to describe how strongly your words resonate with me. I never got that heavily into drugs or alcohol (not that I didn't have my wild party nights), but instead buried my head in the comforting sands of a fondness for video games that nearly became an addiction. It was my mother that finally gave me the jerk back into reality that I needed - that, and nearly losing the scholarship allowing me to remain in college. Most of the progress that I've made in becoming a fully functional member of the human race has happened in the last two years since that revelation, including a few sessions with a therapist. I'm still trying to find my balance, and I still slip, but I hold out hope that one day I'll be able to cry again, unashamed.



I did that too with the games when I was a young teenager. There is more than one way to forget about reality.

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