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RE: Owned? - 5/7/2005 1:55:03 PM

mstrj69

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I have known Doms who stayed home and took care of the kids and housework while the subs provided the financial support. Myself, I always say my submissive will not have to work with the emphasis being on the words "have to". I say this because I can afford to provide the support for both. If she wants to work and still feels she can accomplish being a good submissive, then she can go for it. I have owned and controlled vanilla people before simply because of their lack of self respect or ability to take care of themselves. They needed someone to make the decisions for them. I know from experience that if you know you do not have to work then you do not consider your job or boss a Master to you. Naturally while you are looking for the Dominant to come into your life you will have to work. After He has arrived, your working can be continued however it will need to be discussed as to at what level you continue to work and if he is not next door, whom is going to relocate for the relationship. If you are not willing to give up working to have him then you do not want him and he is not the right person for you. From my perspective, you need to be willing to give up working to achieve total happiness with him. He may say that it is not necessary for you to stop working, just being willing to stop is enough of a submission.
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RE: Owned? - 5/7/2005 3:08:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: MemphisDsCouple

If, you can not see the (common) sense in the conclusion I propound that we can not serve two masters.... well, I've explained it the best I can. If you want further explanations I'll let someone else take a stab at it. In parting, I will simply refer you to the organizational structure that exists all around us in our lives: In business, in the military, hell even in beaurocracies..... in everything we do we create a chain of command. Hell, even the Catholic church has a pope, and the buck stops there. Our personal relationships and familial structures are no different. We need a chain of command. We need an unequivocal place where the buck stops. Both my observation and experience teaches me that it makes for happy campers.

We all serve many masters, slave or not. We all have to answer to various people at one time or another. I think that when it comes to the working slave, it all boils down to the heirarchy of those masters.

For instance, while I currently run a small business at home under my owner's supervision, there was a time when I worked outside the home, managing a medical billing offlice. I very much loved my job and it had pretty much made the transition from job to career. It was clear to me (without having to be told) that my owner had the final authority. He was at the top of the chain where my job was concerned and if his commands, instructions, or preferences were such that I would lose my job, then I would lose my job.

As it turned out, there came a point where he was dissatisfied with the treatment I was receiving from my boss. One morning, after my boss treated me rather unpleasantly and unfairly on the telephone, my owner phoned her, told her I would not be returning and instructed that my belongings would be picked up later that day. That was that.

We all really do serve more than one Master. Each one, however, has a differerent level of authority and as long as the slave knows and behaves in line with her owner being top dog, then I don't see where there would be any conflict in service.

Just my two pesos :)

Well wishes, everyone.

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RE: Owned? - 5/7/2005 7:29:53 PM

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SmilinSSub,
Interesting post and likewise, interesting answers. As to your first question, as well as many of the others, Mercnbeth pretty well sums it up when they say it's like trying to explain a color to a blind person. To many, being a slave will be as a total power exchange, to them...to others it may be more like a state of permanent submission. I guess, other than it really is a feeling that the slave "needs", it is also a feeling that the Dominant needs, when those two come together..that's when it makes sense. The answers will always be varied, mostly because other than the basic dynamic of that type of relationship, they all may be somewhat different to each individual or couple or group. All I could likely say with any certainty is if you reach that point...you WILL know it. Developing a fetish? Hmm...lol...I think this may be another one of those things that you probably have, you just don't realize it yet. Some have many, some have little or none, as for if a sub/slave can have them, OMG In my opinion I would certainly say so, be a tad hard to control that one with a straight face. To develop one...I would have to think this is as natural as having a preference for a particular food. Although in a strict definition, the particular "fetish" will be a required item, thing, circumstance, whatever, needed to gain sexual fullfillment (IMHO). The hitting question I assume is regarding the enjoyment of being struck, flogged, whipped, paddled or whatever is their fancy...that one I will be interested in seeing how many different answers you get. I'm not an an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but from a technical standpoint (not the emotional part I guess), the act itself, more accurately the pain, releases endorphins which makes senses more intense, which makes everything (touch, smell, reactions, etc.) more intense. I am certain someone can explain that more elequently than I did, but that's the basic idea.

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RE: Owned? - 5/7/2005 7:47:21 PM

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Something awesome caught my attention: " I want my partner to learn so I encourage her read this site. "

Liberal-minded people are the only people I care to be around and b4 this discussion I believed dominants were self-serving, self-absorbed, users of women w/ low self-esteem.

If you are not billing me by the hour I will continue to say...

Dominants previously scared me bc of the inflexible men of my childhood. I felt oppressed and had something to prove back then. Well...I did prove it in my career. I have not used it to substitute for a personal relationship but as a personal goal.

B4 Mr. Memphis says, "yep, something's gotta give" please keep this in mind. My life's seasons are not over. The work chapter will never close and I am ALWAYS a work in progress. I respect myself (yep, got over low self-esteem issues) because of my hard work.

Funny how you transfer your gr8est fears about yourself onto someone else, isn't it?

The dominant brothers/Dad still oppresse the child in me but now I can't wait to find the partner who says "atta little girl, you did it" and then spanks the woman in me across my desk.

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