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Wax and Ice Play? - 5/6/2007 9:35:43 AM   
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Good afternoon,
  Since i have experienced and enjoyed wax play, my Dom has decided on using ice as well. So basically incorporating both Wax and Ice Play together. My question is, does anyone have any ideas on how to incorporate both? My Dom's idea is to drip the wax first, and let the ice drip afterwards alternating between the two. Or to "pour" the wax on and lay the ice on top. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Or if there is another thread on both subjects, that would also be greatly appreciated.
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RE: Wax and Ice Play? - 5/6/2007 9:39:08 AM   
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he could drip hot wax on you while inserting a nice icy-cold pyrex dildo inside of you

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RE: Wax and Ice Play? - 5/6/2007 9:39:46 AM   
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As more wax goes on, if you're doing full layers- the ice will not penetrate as much or cause as much of a reaction.  As well, the water could become trapped under the wax and cause more sweatiness or (perhaps desired) discomfort.

FOr maximum shock, pour the ice water on after you've removed all the wax layers.

I don't mix the two myself, wax for me is very slow and spiritual and ice is very sharp and hard to one's state of mind.

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RE: Wax and Ice Play? - 5/6/2007 9:47:21 AM   
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Thank you to both for your ideas. i will let my Dom know about it. Also LA, can you please explain a little more on the cons of using both? i mean, what do you mean by " hard to one's state of mind?"  You know a lot about different methods and i want to learn about both the pros and cons, and i definitly do not mean this last statement as being sarcastic in anyway.
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RE: Wax and Ice Play? - 5/6/2007 10:31:46 AM   
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If you use paraffin, after a good layer is down, cut a slit, add the ice and then recover with wax.

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RE: Wax and Ice Play? - 5/6/2007 11:22:16 AM   
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I learned a rather interesting method for wax play a few years ago.. Though it involves some preparation, I find it to be a rather soulful experience. I like to use a paraffin bath(H&B section or Sally's Beauty Supply) to melt the wax, and then use wide paintbrushes to apply it, letting it cool, and making layers. This paves the way for some rather interesting variations, such as removing sections and placing more wax, or ice inside them... Also, it's fairly economic, because the wax can be pulled off and re-used, within reason. Also you can use turkey basters for evil joy. If you're concerned about pulling hairs, mineral oil on the skin before hand makes for a sensual preventative. Even works for bears, to a degree. 
 
One could even get creative and fill these sections in with colours, but be careful with that, as colored candles melt with a higher temp, and can stain the skin. Also, the "jesus candles" that you find at the grocery store/discount store/fiestamart for about a buck apiece, work good for this, as they are parrafin wax. they wan be melted very easily in a water-filled crock pot, kept down around 130 degrees once the wax is melted. This makes color use fairly easy, because you can put several colors in one pot.. Also, though more expensive, Chakra(sp?) colored candles, for use in  various forms of Asian Medicine have some really nice, VIVID colors to them. One of the Masters in my local community is famous (or is it INfamous) for having done a full-body wax-encasement scene, complete with colors. I didn't see it, but I saw the pics and the shell. He keeps it under the couch as a souvenir..
 
Now as for ice. Ice can be very interesting. The contrast between wax's heat and ice's cold is enough to SHOCK a submissive back to reality, or push her deeper below the surface. Ice is rather versatile, if molded right. Ice cubes can be glued together with a little water to make an ice dildo or even rubbed and sucked, like we used to do candycanes to make pointy evil poky objects to torment with. There are numerous molds out there that can be used and/or perverted.
 
I think what LA was referring to was the shocking contrast of the cold ice on heated, sensitized skin. That's pretty freaking evil, I must say. It could probably break somebody's buzz pretty quick. When my former and I were experimenting with the paraffin wax pot, she pulled a prank on me... she joked about brushing wax on my nads  when she was waxing on my back, and then dribbled some icewater on them. I 'bout jumped clear off the bed and squealed like a girl. In the proper setting, Ice and wax can both lead to a  most EXCELLENT mindfuck.
 
Daddysliloneds .... damn..that's hot... Are you talking form experience???
 
I'm sorry that this has become such a dissertation. But I do hope this will help.

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RE: Wax and Ice Play? - 5/6/2007 11:53:09 AM   
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It has been a long time, but when I did a lot of wax play I'd use the wax first, then remove it with a knife blade that was stored in the freezer and kept cold in a glass of ice cubes/water. Sometimes 2 blades so one can always be kept at maximum cold.

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RE: Wax and Ice Play? - 5/6/2007 12:35:41 PM   
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yep, i talk from experience, but you already know that now that we've spoken about it in e-mail

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RE: Wax and Ice Play? - 5/6/2007 1:07:06 PM   
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Cool thank you everyone for giving me some more ideas. And thank you Tenire for explaining a little more about what LA was saying, i greatly appreciate it. And i will let my Dom know about all these ideas.

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RE: Wax and Ice Play? - 5/6/2007 5:23:48 PM   
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This is a variation on "fire&ice" or thermal inversion. Pick any things that are hot and cold. For example, smooth stones, sponges, massaqge oil and ice. At its extreme, full body immersion in ice saltwater, alternating with hot water shower, will literally take your breath away and create permanent vivid memories. (But make sure you are in good health, due to rapid blood pressure and flow changes).

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RE: Wax and Ice Play? - 5/7/2007 4:34:17 PM   
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Thank you aldompdx for the suggestion i will let my Dom know about that as well

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RE: Wax and Ice Play? - 5/7/2007 4:47:45 PM   
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Im a fan of heat. Not cold.
I echo LA's thoughts on how i dont like the two to be mixed.
heat from wax, has me sinking deeper and deeper into subspace. The shock of ice and its coldness, shocks me out of that space. Its not a nice way to come to the conscious surface. I have found myself from floaty lovely headspace, to irritable, snappy and in trouble if i express that in any way.

I do enjoy ice play. I find it a difficult sensation to play with though. It really pushes me for some reason to not react. This is how he likes to torment me.

I do like wax and knife play together, just made for each other in my head anyway!
All that dribbling of hot fluid, coupled with his really fucking sharp knife as he takes it off, lush!!!!

I have been known to discreetly insert a ice cube without him knowing, then as he penetrates me, the shock is on the other foot so to speak. Cheeky, but effective.
little1

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RE: Wax and Ice Play? - 5/8/2007 1:39:06 AM   
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Master rather enjoys doing different things to both sides of my body ... pain on one side (eg pinching my nipple hard) and pleasure on the other (eg kissing my nipple). It really mind fucks me, and rather than shocking me out, tends to put me in even deeper. So wax and ice are just the thing for a lovely contrasting experience!

And i echo what little1 has to say ... one of the hottest fucks i have ever had was when i had about 6 icecubes inserted into my pussy first and then fucked hard and fast. His cock felt like it was on fire! Awesome! Messy LOL ... but worth it!

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