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RE: Just an Ordinary Rose - 8/13/2007 3:35:08 PM   
MsBearlee


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Ahhhhhhhhh... So you have a garden full of those common Doome Roses!  They're often quite pretty and sometimes smell heavenly; but they're as rampent as weeds and not at all reliable!
 
I've found that rather than concentrate on a garden, finding a single rose and spending some time nurturing it; making sure it's needs are met, cutting it back when it needs it, putting it in a place where it will thrive and give ME what I want...is the best way to go with roses.
 
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RE: Just an Ordinary Rose - 8/13/2007 3:39:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well state MsBearlee, she needs to prune all the deadwood and plant new buds.
I would not consider anyone myself that was so callous when I was ill, not even
a vanilla man, much less a submissive man.

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RE: Just an Ordinary Rose - 8/13/2007 3:40:14 PM   
MissIsis


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Status: offline 		Hi, I just wanted to say I am sorry you have been feeling so badly.  I wish I could help you.  I know it isn't much, but,  I will keep you in my thoughts & prayers. 

Get better soon. 

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RE: Just an Ordinary Rose - 8/13/2007 3:54:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, but it isn't easy.
 
I remember one time when my son was going through some extream issues and threatening suicide.  It was beyond difficult.  At home later, feeling overwhelmed, I leaned against a wall and just sat down and cried for him.
 
My then boyfriend was incredulous.  YOU Cry???!!!,  he said.  I was never so amazed in all my life.  Perhaps strong women sometimes come off as not needing anybody. 
 
I let more people see me cry these days...and I'm also learning to ask for help.
 
I wish you well MHOO,
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RE: Just an Ordinary Rose - 8/13/2007 3:57:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Silly, silly dommes....It's because you have only established your worth if you are healthy....These people do not connect with you....Meaning that you no longer have worth if you are sick or are suffering from a medical problem....

If I came out here and stated that the "many" women who are flitting around the domidong don't seem to care for me when I take sick....It would mean that I have not put out the effort to make even one of them feel special...The value they placed on me, was that I could hoist up the Domidong and flog them and produce the high quality face shots that they have grown to know and love....If I am unable to accommodate them in that fashion, than I am no longer of use.

This is why I like to tell women I love them, even if I don't....Our health is not guaranteed, ya know!

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RE: Just an Ordinary Rose - 8/13/2007 4:01:41 PM   
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Yer a hoot, yanno?

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RE: Just an Ordinary Rose - 8/13/2007 5:34:20 PM   
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laughing at the word  "domidong"  and wondering why sponge bob square pants just popped into my head.....
 
 

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RE: Just an Ordinary Rose - 8/13/2007 5:55:43 PM   
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I am so sorry to hear you are in so much pain and I do hope it eases soon. 
Why none of your roses have responded, is beyond me....perhaps they are stinkweed with rose petals just glued on...
 it's hard to understand someone who is able to stand off to the side and watch another person struggle, and not care or help...Your frustration and feelings are understandable...
 
Hope things improve quickly
smiles..
 
 
 
 

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RE: Just an Ordinary Rose - 8/13/2007 7:30:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm so sorry to hear you are hurting. I checked to see where you live, I'm a straight girl, but I'm a girl.  I hate to be sexist here, but my guess is that men and women (in generalized terms) may view this differently and women just sort of automatically come through for each other and try to be there when our friends need it, regardless of our orientation, and men don't always pick up on the hints the same way.  Did you ask any of them directly?  Or just hope they would know what was going on?

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RE: Just an Ordinary Rose - 8/13/2007 8:03:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: domiguy

If I came out here and stated that the "many" women who are flitting around the domidong don't seem to care for me when I take sick....It would mean that I have not put out the effort to make even one of them feel special...


That was my thought at well... if i knew that i were only one of a few dozen men kept at a safe distance, at the end of a long line of hoops to jump through, i wouldn't put myself out for some random 'net stranger either. i can come back when i have something to offer You? Okay, let me know when You're at your best so that i might get something in return.

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ORIGINAL: kossack
I hate to be sexist here, but my guess is that men and women (in generalized terms) may view this differently and women just sort of automatically come through for each other and try to be there when our friends need it, regardless of our orientation, and men don't always pick up on the hints the same way. 


True, men have a grand tradition of missing hints put out by the fairer sex. However, what we lack in "sisterhood", we often make up in helpfulness. If someone i care about is hurting, i'll always do what i can to help, or ask if there's something i can do for them if nothing comes to mind. We solve problems. But no one can fix everything, or care about everyone... so if you haven't put forth enough effort to make yourself special to them, you get nada.

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RE: Just an Ordinary Rose - 8/13/2007 9:19:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am sorry you are in pain MHOO. I know that I learned the hard way not to offer service until it is requested. No anticipating needs. No jumping to help until it is specifically requested. While some Dommes may want their submissives to make offers, I know of some who do not - one in particular. It is difficult for this particular service-oriented submissive to sit on her hands when someone has a need, but I've learned (most of the time) to do just that. If you were my next door neighbor I would wait for the request before I helped. It's the best way to please the Dommes I know the best.

Just my thoughts.........

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RE: Just an Ordinary Rose - 8/14/2007 8:17:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hope you feel better.

Curiosity compels me to ask if normally you dislike anticipatory service because if so you have taught them not to do things or offer things but instead to wait until asked. If so, then call them up and ask for specific help.

About the horses, most nonhorse people I know would be afraid to do anything for them. Us horsey types think of them as oversized pets and we forget how the others view them.

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RE: Just an Ordinary Rose - 8/14/2007 8:22:15 AM   
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RE: Just an Ordinary Rose - 8/14/2007 12:41:29 PM   
SayaNereida


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Status: offline 		Lady Hathor,
 
I'm so sorry your in pain.  You might try a bit of wine for the spasms, it helps.
 
As to your boys, I don't know what it says about them as a sub, it does say a great deal about them as a human being.
 
Neighbors, that I would not consider friends but acquaintances, have needed similar assistance from time to time; and while they have never asked, I have always offered.
 
Perhaps the boys required 'orders' of assistance??
 
I'm curious, how does this effect how you view the boys now, and how does it change your idea of future a relationship with them?

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RE: Just an Ordinary Rose - 8/14/2007 12:49:10 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: petdave
But no one can fix everything, or care about everyone... so if you haven't put forth enough effort to make yourself special to them, you get nada.



I have say that, while it is unfortunate, this is true. I spent several years trying to make everyone happy, ferrying everyone around regardless of where I wanted to go, taking care of everyone when they were sick but nobody ever returning the favors or making sure that I was ok.

I firmly believe that a person can't give, give, give, and give. They have to receive somewhere along the line as well. Nowadays, if it's not Valyraen, my folks or a close friend, I keep myself out unless actually asked. Not "I found out through their away message or their blog", they wanted my assistence enough, me personally and not just anyone in a collective pool of friends or subs, that they picked up the phone and said "Aqua, I'm in a tough spot, can you please help?"

And then I'm there.

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RE: Just an Ordinary Rose - 8/14/2007 5:45:31 PM   
LadyIce


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Status: offline 		What a very sad thread.  I hope you feel better soon, and I hope you one day
get a submissive that is there for you when it really counts.
Somone worth having is certainly worth waiting for.  It will happen for you.

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RE: Just an Ordinary Rose - 8/15/2007 12:26:46 PM   
MastersMaiden


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Status: offline 		awwww...
guys are silly,  but i'm glad you're feeling a little better at least :)

MM

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RE: Just an Ordinary Rose: Update - 8/19/2007 6:10:24 AM   
MHOO314


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Status: offline 		First of all thank you all so much for your kind words here and on the other side and as always, outstanding perspectives on a situation----
 
I am feeling better, though still some twinges and an appt with a chirporactor on Tuesday to add to My list of "professional boys"--smiles, so we will see what he says---
 
as to the situation---I did not indeed tell any of the boys that I expected them to think ahead and do things wihtout asking---the curse of being in control of everything---and yet if one wants My favor, why should I? Aakasha was too funny, make it an order and they will-
 
and as VeryMercurial stated :
quote:

Most of these submissive's are really only submissive when it is fun or it suits them.


so the time away gave Me time to rethink how I select, how I communicate and the hoops they have to jump through---
 
My thanks as always---MH

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RE: Just an Ordinary Rose: Update - 8/19/2007 8:30:25 AM   
opensoul


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Status: offline 		Mistress Hathor, I wish to say I am so glad you are feeling better and hope along with your Chiro , you may wish to find a sub who is a massage therapist, I am one and I long to take care of my Master any time I can. To ease any pain he has is just a small part of what I feel is mylife for him.
May I suggest also, hot bath with epson salts can help remove toxins and ease spasms too.
Thank heavens for my Master allowing me to think ahead and try to do all that I can to help!!

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RE: Just an Ordinary Rose: Update - 8/19/2007 8:36:30 AM   
MHOO314


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Status: offline 		ohhh what great ideas, thank you!

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