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ORIGINAL: porcelaine

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ORIGINAL: Jaybeee

I'm actually all in favour of a man providing everything, everything, for a good woman; I'm just saying you need to be careful that she IS a good woman, unless you want to be fleeced down to your bare ass two years later in divorce court.

Greetings Jaybeee,

Your comment can be relegated to both sexes. Men can be just as calculating and diabolical. However, as you've mentioned it's necessary to know the individual and their real intentions as opposed to the masquerade they may put forth to lure unsuspecting victims. As with most things forewarned is forearmed.

Namaste,

~porcelaine

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

So the master in question wants to dominate all areas of her life.  I wonder how her 'nilla hubby feels about this.

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ORIGINAL: Solslave

no not angry because of it...I believe I said that I wasn't....I am only angry because she lied about it. The one thing that I can not have my slave do is lie to me

<gasp> You mean she LIED? Shocking. Especially, since she's already shown she's willing to lie.

Given that "Solslave", the 'slave' in question and geodragon the 'dom' in question appear to be one person and 2 profiles who managed to out 'themselves' yesterday... it is fitting that one of them said above:

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If your willing to do the actions be willing to take the consequence that's a lesson I live with in life...I am willing to take the consequence of my actions or I don't do them

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Perhaps it would be a good time to decide to no longer commit assault on non-living equines.

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ORIGINAL: fellowtraveler

Jaybee, I think I get your point now... its a matter of common sense. Actually, its been a while since I have "dated"... like about 15 years. I know there have always been a few women who are almost exclusively interested in attaching themselves to a man's wallet and financial statement. IMO they are usually pretty easy to spot; very status conscious, looking for a man who earns a LOT more than they do. Good to avoid such women simply because in a divorce they have all the advantages... because of their inability to survive on their own, the judge will sometimes happily award them with massive alimony payouts. A good firiend of mine is mixed up with one now... she was much younger than he and had no education, no marketable skills and a really nice body. Now their relationship is headed south fast and he is scared to death what will happen in a divorce. Sad thing is that everyone he knew (including me) tried to tell him it was a mistake. She had nothing to offer the relationship except eye-candy.

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On the other hand, I see a lot of n'er-do-well men these days who look at women as a meal ticket. I suspect a lot of women want to be sure that a guy is capable of at least being able to maintain the same lifestyle they choose for themselves. In other words, they don't want a bum... and they start their inquiry off to be sure they aren't dealing with a loser. I suspect that if I were back out looking for a new lass (god forbid), I would be a little careful too. Your posts though make it sound as though you seem to feel that women should be allowed no financial expectations of a man at all. I have heard a lot of unemployed guys complain that any woman who expects them to earn a living wage is a gold-digger. Not true at all.

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ORIGINAL: Jaybeee

No no, first of all we can't "allow", or disallow expectations. Every woman in the country has the legal right to be lazy, dirty little-gold-digging whore. It's despicable, but not illegal - and I would leave said country if the government starting laying down edicts telling us who we should/shouldn't pair up with.

What I DO object to is the idea that an unemployed man ought not to be looking for dates, but an unemployed woman can. It's that lingering disparity in opinions. I don't like the opinion that it's ok for a single woman to be broke, but not a single man. Sorry, ain't gonna fly.

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No no, first of all we can't "allow", or disallow expectations. Every woman in the country has the legal right to be lazy, dirty little-gold-digging whore. It's despicable, but not illegal - and I would leave said country if the government starting laying down edicts telling us who we should/shouldn't pair up with.

What I DO object to is the idea that an unemployed man ought not to be looking for dates, but an unemployed woman can. It's that lingering disparity in opinions. I don't like the opinion that it's ok for a single woman to be broke, but not a single man. Sorry, ain't gonna fly.

Another good point. I would agree if this were about equality. However, the specific point of it is that we do NOT believe in equality. A dominant does not have the same rights or expectations as a submissive. Both bring their own qualities to the relationship. The dom creates a world.... the sub accepts and chooses to live in that world. What world does an unemployed poor-as-a-churchmouse dominant create? Sure, she should be able to contribute to that world, but she shouldn't be the only one contributing financially, at least in my opinion. Again, it may be a matter of old fashioned values.

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Ihave to recognize though that it really isn't fair that women aren't expected to be financially successful and men are.... but that's the world we live in. It is a remnant of a time when women were largely unable to find employment at a living wage but men were expected to share their wealth with the women they loved (wives, mothers, sisters, daughters, etc.). Men had more advantages but they also had more expectations. We have taken great strides to balance that situation for women, but the expectations remain largely the same for men. Honestly, as a dominant, I am comfortable with it. I do not see the world as having any obligation to be "fair" and I remind my lass of that frequently.

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ORIGINAL: Jaybeee

She seems like a good sort from the way you speak of her. If I may ask, has she earned your trust for the long haul, or are you waiting to see how she shapes up? This is the way things are BUT - I don't see why the good, honest, hard-working, hard-driving men of this world have to be cheated.

I'm also pretty comfortable with the situation as I'm also pretty comfy financially. BUT - short of Murder, nothing disgusts me like outright hypocrisy. If a woman shortlists potential partners using a financial filter first, fine - just woman up, come out of the gold-digger closet and fucking say so. People are forever trying to stitch me up and I tell them quite plainly I'm not interested in older women. Does it make me a cradle-snatcher to want girls 20 yrs younger? Do I give a shyte? Anything less is dishonest and makes her a money-grubbing cunt, as far as I am concerned.

I mean, I shouldn't HAVE to dress down to meet a girl, should I?

Bahhhh....I'm ranting. Time for a cuppa and a smile.