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domiguy -> RE: leaving sub alone while tied/caged (3/28/2011 3:06:40 PM)

I wouldn't do it.

I just can't stand the thought of someone as pretty as me behind bars.

In front of bars, I'm good to go.




needlesandpins -> RE: leaving sub alone while tied/caged (3/28/2011 3:09:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: leadership527

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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins
i was hoping for simple enlightenment. instead you bring comparisons and things into this that have no relivence.

You were hoping to enlighten me. That's not exactly the same as hoping for enlightenment. When you failed, you resorted to dogma in the face of my analytical and scientific approach. Formal Risk Management is in fact a real field of study. I suggest you research it.

This reminds me of doing risk management at work. I used to laugh and say, "You know, we could fully secure our enterprise if we cut all the lines in and out of the buildings, fired all the employees, and poured concrete over all the structures. At that point security would be 100% but we wouldn't actually be producing any product."


you are talking utter rubbish.

i asked practical questions to which you gave contradictory answers or answers that made no sence and certainly had to substance behind them. thus i make points about that and you acuse me of dogma (which you obviously don't know the meaning of, or if you do you are using the vastly incorrectly) and religion. i challenge you to quote me exactly where i bring religion into the conversation. but i know for a fact that you can't. just because i question something you have said because you make no sence you start making comparisons that have no relevance at all. i am not trying to enlighten you, i'm trying to understand what you are saying as you make no sence to me.

needles




agirl -> RE: leaving sub alone while tied/caged (3/28/2011 3:15:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

Is this something you would ever do with your s type, or allow to be done to you (f you are the s type)

Why and/or why not?

If this seems okay with you, what kind of restraints would you use/allow to be used? What kind of safety measures (if any) would you have any place?

If you caged someone or agreed to be caged and left alone, please give us details of the circumstances (size of cage, safety measures, etc).

I have my own strong opinions on this subject, which I will post at some point this evening, but I would like to get others' thoughts first, if you please.





I've been bound and/or caged and left. I can't be doing with worrying about the house burning down while he's gone to the builder's merchants for 20 mins or so.

I am more likely to die when I'm asleep.....not when I'm wide awake with the ability to yell or with teens coming in and out all day long.

We seriously are NOT interested in mitigating every teeny risk that might be carried by what we do. We take *reasonable* measures......they'll always do.

Basically, the risk is so incredibly low that we don't give a fig. We aren't afraid of what can go wrong, neither of us would/could live that way.

Bear in mind that this happens in our own herb garden and between two people that know the lie of the land, know the circumstances..... and neither of us is out fucking anyone else in an alley......lol IE.... the focus is always on ME!

agirl











porcelaine -> RE: leaving sub alone while tied/caged (3/28/2011 3:18:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

So I'm not looking for the "one true way" rule here, more others perspectives and their thoughts on why or why not this is something they would do.


You know why this question hurts my cranium? First of all, it's hypothetical and most respondents would never be in this position for the duration the original thread noted. Secondly,.even if he did it for a time, so what? And yes i'm saying it. Because i sincerely and truly believe that if he put me in that position he's already worked out the what if's and every other possibility that could be hazardous to my health. In short, he's got this and me. What am i worried about?

And another thing, if i spent this much energy conjuring up things that couldn't possibly befall me in any measure i'd probably leave no room for Him, His Will, or that dandy process of enslavement. In fact, i wonder how on earth you can possibly be enslaved with this much gibberish floating around the noggin'.

But that's just one girl's well caffeinated opinion. As you note, things change and it's all good when that happens. If you're in the right hands. [;)]

Namaste,

~porcelaine




domiguy -> RE: leaving sub alone while tied/caged (3/28/2011 3:21:27 PM)

The chance of something horrid happening is minimal. I wouldn't sweat it.

But I am really too pretty for prison.




agirl -> RE: leaving sub alone while tied/caged (3/28/2011 3:27:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: porcelaine

quote:

ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

So I'm not looking for the "one true way" rule here, more others perspectives and their thoughts on why or why not this is something they would do.


You know why this question hurts my cranium? First of all, it's hypothetical and most respondents would never be in this position for the duration the original thread noted. Secondly,.even if he did it for a time, so what? And yes i'm saying it. Because i sincerely and truly believe that if he put me in that position he's already worked out the what if's and every other possibility that could be hazardous to my health. In short, he's got this and me. What am i worried about?

And another thing, if i spent this much energy conjuring up things that couldn't possibly befall me in any measure i'd probably leave no room for Him, His Will, or that dandy process of enslavement. In fact, i wonder how on earth you can possibly be enslaved with this much gibberish floating around the noggin'.

But that's just one girl's well caffeinated opinion. As you note, things change and it's all good when that happens. If you're in the right hands. [;)]

Namaste,

~porcelaine



Deep joy for your post.

agirl




Aileen1968 -> RE: leaving sub alone while tied/caged (3/28/2011 3:27:54 PM)

*fast reply*
So you find yourself with the most safe and sane dom on the planet. He accounts for every catastrophe that could ever occur.
He's bound you perfectly...no pinching or screaming shoulders. Just enough wiggle room without the possibility to escape.
Then he sits back to admire his work....and drops dead of a heart attack.
Different intention. Same outcome.

A lot of what we do is risky. I knew that going into this relationship. I can't pick and choose what I decide to trust him in. It's all or nothing.
If he decided to bind me and go play poker then I'd deal with it.
There are much greater odds that he'd have to give me a good shoulder massage over poking my charred corpse with a stick at the end of the night.




agirl -> RE: leaving sub alone while tied/caged (3/28/2011 3:38:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

*fast reply*
So you find yourself with the most safe and sane dom on the planet. He accounts for every catastrophe that could ever occur.
He's bound you perfectly...no pinching or screaming shoulders. Just enough wiggle room without the possibility to escape.
Then he sits back to admire his work....and drops dead of a heart attack.
Different intention. Same outcome.

A lot of what we do is risky. I knew that going into this relationship. I can't pick and choose what I decide to trust him in. It's all or nothing.
If he decided to bind me and go play poker then I'd deal with it.
There are much greater odds that he'd have to give me a good shoulder massage over poking my charred corpse with a stick at the end of the night.




Agreed... and ditto porcelaine...and Jeff..

I don't know what makes it such a non-event for us.  You know what you know, you trust what you trust...... Justifying it, or even bothering to, really isn't worth it. No-one can smell our herb-garden and we don't really care.

agirl





domiguy -> RE: leaving sub alone while tied/caged (3/28/2011 3:40:00 PM)

I know a girl that almost died after giving me a blow job.

Seems my ejaculate had gone bad.




SailingBum -> RE: leaving sub alone while tied/caged (3/28/2011 3:42:27 PM)

Much ado about nothing. Im really surprised at the reactions. You would think be reading some of the posts being bound and left alone is almost as bad as japans minor power shortage issue. jeez ppl get a grip sure sure lots of terribly things "could" happen when left alone. I mean Russia could invade your street...
The cops could knock down the wrong door see you trussed up. Hell the damn sky could fall... REALLY

Sounds like some of you folks need to get a grip on REALITY!!!

BadOne




agirl -> RE: leaving sub alone while tied/caged (3/28/2011 3:45:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

I know a girl that almost died after giving me a blow job.

Seems my ejaculate had gone bad.


.... a worthwhile risk..grin

agirl




Aileen1968 -> RE: leaving sub alone while tied/caged (3/28/2011 3:45:24 PM)

I would just be annoyed because as soon as I'm bound, my nose gets itchy.
Who would scratch it for me?????




BKSir -> RE: leaving sub alone while tied/caged (3/28/2011 3:49:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

I would just be annoyed because as soon as I'm bound, my nose gets itchy.
Who would scratch it for me?????


Well, it IS meant to be a torture, after all...




agirl -> RE: leaving sub alone while tied/caged (3/28/2011 3:53:06 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SailingBum

Much ado about nothing. Im really surprised at the reactions. You would think be reading some of the posts being bound and left alone is almost as bad as japans minor power shortage issue. jeez ppl get a grip sure sure lots of terribly things "could" happen when left alone. I mean Russia could invade your street...
The cops could knock down the wrong door see you trussed up. Hell the damn sky could fall... REALLY

Sounds like some of you folks need to get a grip on REALITY!!!

BadOne


I can't say I'm surprised in the least. But this is coming from the mother that left babies asleep in cots while she left the house to split logs.  Do we REALLY have to list the fleeting mental gymnastics we go through when we do remotely *risky* stuff?

agirl






agirl -> RE: leaving sub alone while tied/caged (3/28/2011 3:57:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

I would just be annoyed because as soon as I'm bound, my nose gets itchy.
Who would scratch it for me?????


That's a total given here! ......As soon as one arm is bound, the other hand is scratching and picking my nose like the last damn supper!....:(

Why IS it that it barely itches until it's imminent that I can't scratch?

agirl




IrishMist -> RE: leaving sub alone while tied/caged (3/28/2011 4:11:49 PM)

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Is this something you would ever do with your s type, or allow to be done to you (f you are the s type)

Why and/or why not?

Being on the submissive side; absolutly not. Too many chances for something happening/going wrong.

edited to add:

Of course, I have never been bound, and never will be...so the question does not really matter [:)]




porcelaine -> RE: leaving sub alone while tied/caged (3/28/2011 4:29:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: agirl

Agreed... and ditto porcelaine...and Jeff..

I don't know what makes it such a non-event for us.  You know what you know, you trust what you trust...... Justifying it, or even bothering to, really isn't worth it. No-one can smell our herb-garden and we don't really care.


Ditto. We're on the same page. [;)]

Namaste,

~porcelaine




MistressRage -> RE: leaving sub alone while tied/caged (3/28/2011 4:38:45 PM)

I have allowed a caged slave to be alone in a room but never alone in the house. I use a baby monitor to hear everything and keep the door open so I can hear problems. I never let more than 15 minutes pass without a visual confirmation that the slave is doing well.

I would never leave a slave alone if he were gagged, blindfolded, bound with rope or restraints, had any medical problems etc. It's too risky.




Missokyst -> RE: leaving sub alone while tied/caged (3/28/2011 5:13:00 PM)

I have done it. It was not a big deal for me at the time as it was an acceptable risk given my situation. I am pretty sure he went to work while I was shackled to the bed. But, the lead line was long enough to get me to the bathroom and to the fridge. I could have yelled for help and IF there was someone in a nearby room they might have heard me. I did a lot of things when I was younger.
Now though.. I would not allow it. While I can manuever my way out of most restraints some things are not doable, shackles around my ankles for instance are difficult to squeeze out of (pesky ankle bones!), and I have seen some weird stuff happen in the years I have done this. I do not want to have my family see my name in the paper if there was something preventing me from escape in case of an accident. I opt for sensibility over potential wetness.
It just seems silly for me now when I think of letting kink rule my logic.




VaguelyCurious -> RE: leaving sub alone while tied/caged (3/28/2011 5:16:47 PM)

This thread has made my nose itch.




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