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Nnanji -> RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia (11/16/2016 6:28:11 PM)

Lol




Nnanji -> RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia (11/16/2016 6:33:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Your "Information" should be corrected
There is no such thing as a phycologist or a book on phycological disorders
There is no information there, only bad grammar and opinion.

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

No. Some phycologists accepted the born gay and whatever the book of phycological disorders is called dropped gay. But, no scientific proof. And, as said above, anyone who'd look for a gay gene is vilified. And, that is your science loving left.


Are you saying the DSM doesn't exist or phycologist should have been psychiatrist?




Greta75 -> RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia (11/16/2016 6:41:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tamaka

If you had a loved one suffering from anorexia would you help them to see themselves as fat and encourage them to get lyposuction?

http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/clarion-call/59565-the-entire-lgbt-narrative-just-crumbled

I have always said being gay or lesbian or bisexual, is just another kink.
My own country refuse to legalise homosexuality until there is scientific evidence that it is in-born. I always wondered how come there is no credible scientific evidence yet that my government will recognized if the west is so convinced it's inborn?
But the thing is, being into BDSM, I don't see kinks as harmful, unless that kink is pedophilia. I also see pedophilia as a kink. There are harmless kinks and negative kinks.

IF it's pedophilia, the person needs treatment.

But if someone thinks they are gay or lesbian, honestly, the only treatment they need is acceptance, then there will be no issues. They just need to accept themselves, and feel like others accept them as normal people.

I feel like most of these problems they are facing right now is thanks to ostracisation.




DesideriScuri -> RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia (11/16/2016 6:46:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Your "Information" should be corrected
There is no such thing as a phycologist or a book on phycological disorders
There is no information there, only bad grammar and opinion.
quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji
No. Some phycologists accepted the born gay and whatever the book of phycological disorders is called dropped gay. But, no scientific proof. And, as said above, anyone who'd look for a gay gene is vilified. And, that is your science loving left.


Lucy, you owe Nnanji an apology, sorta.
Phycology

Journal of Phycology

Journal of Applied Phycology

European Journal of Phycology

Phycological Society of America

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Lucylastic -> RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia (11/16/2016 6:48:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Your "Information" should be corrected
There is no such thing as a phycologist or a book on phycological disorders
There is no information there, only bad grammar and opinion.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji

No. Some phycologists accepted the born gay and whatever the book of phycological disorders is called dropped gay. But, no scientific proof. And, as said above, anyone who'd look for a gay gene is vilified. And, that is your science loving left.


Are you saying the DSM doesn't exist or phycologist should have been psychiatrist?

I meant what I said. altho, well done on catching the "psychiatrist" faux pas.




Wayward5oul -> RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia (11/16/2016 6:52:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Diffident


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

I thought it had been proven that there was a genetic component, along with environmental factors?


It is a bit suspicious that most of the links that emphatically say that there is no evidence for a genetic component to sexual orientation tend to be from Religious or Right wing sources. There are plenty of links from mainstream sources saying that there is good evidence of a genetic component: [This one and This one are the the top 2 results.

As with everything else in science, the only way to find out what the scientific consensus is is to completely ignore the media and the parties interested in promoting a particular view, and spend a lot of time reading about a wide range of the different studies that have been done in more than one peer-reviewed Scientific journal. This is very tedious as they are usually very boring, even for people who are interested in the subject, and you tend to find that scientists are very reluctant to say anything at all, especially emphatically. Their favourite conclusions involve a lot of "Possibly"; "Maybe"; "This could suggest that.."; and of course "We recommend further studies in x,y, z". When scientists in a particular field of study are virtually unanimous and shouting very loudly that something is definitely true (like they are with climate change), then this is extremely unusual and we should perhaps pay more attention to them when they do this than we currently tend to do.

Since I'm too lazy to read scientific journals, I'll just be content that every scientist with a background in any of the biological sciences who I've heard or read on the subject of any aspect of human behaviour, has seemed to treat it as totally obvious that absolutely everything to do with humans is a result of the interaction of both genetic and environmental factors.

Well stated.




Nnanji -> RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia (11/16/2016 6:53:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Your "Information" should be corrected
There is no such thing as a phycologist or a book on phycological disorders
There is no information there, only bad grammar and opinion.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji

No. Some phycologists accepted the born gay and whatever the book of phycological disorders is called dropped gay. But, no scientific proof. And, as said above, anyone who'd look for a gay gene is vilified. And, that is your science loving left.


Are you saying the DSM doesn't exist or phycologist should have been psychiatrist?

I meant what I said. altho, well done on catching the "psychiatrist" faux pas.

Have you seen the list DS posted?




Wayward5oul -> RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia (11/16/2016 7:01:23 PM)

As far as the "gay gene" goes, I found this article to be fairly balanced, acknowledging what has and has not been accepted as science, and explaining what avenues current research is going down and why.

When I saw the title, I was prepared for an inflammatory political argument, but that's not the case at all.

http://www.livescience.com/50058-being-gay-not-a-choice.html






Termyn8or -> RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia (11/16/2016 7:27:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MercTech

Eating disorders....
Anorexia
Bulimia
Compulsive Overeating
Exercise Addicted Body Image disorder.

You hear more about women having Anorexia. I know for a fact Bulimia happens in men too. I had to report a kid working for me in the Navy after noting he went to throw up after EVERY MEAL Compulsive overeating is probably the most common. Think about the person that eats lightly during the workday but keeps grazing from the fridge when confronted with being alone for the night. Exercise addiction is a related disorder. One gent I know will eat a whole bucket of KFC then go doing cardio workout for six hours after work. His whole life revolves around huge meals followed by insane amounts of exercise.

Current research shows that there is a genetic pre-disposition. There is also a huge issue with the intestinal flora as well. In lab rats, you give them a biotic mix from an obese rat and that rat becomes obese. The term "fecal transplant" gets a huge ewwwww factor but the research is being done in humans now. There are gastric infections (and not talking parasitology) that will cause changes resulting in cravings for things like salt or sweet foods. I think that when the research shakes out; obesity will become treatable with appropriate biotic medication coupled with behavior modification training.

Sidebar:
A lot of the "everyone knows" kind of stuff actually doesn't hold water when tested. Corn syrup, high fructose corn syrup, doesn't cause diabetes it is just another sugar to the digestive system. But, you can consistently and provably give lab rats diabetes by giving them artificial sweeteners. "Sweet" causes insulin production to handle the sugar properly. Giving "sweet" with nothing to work on just trains the pancreas to make less insulin... the definition of diabetes is insufficient insulin production. So goes the hypothesis that is undergoing animal trials.


Can't really separate this all out here so here goes :

Anorexia and bolemia may actually have physical causes. This is what we are not finding yet, or at least all of it. I used to be able to eat three big heaping plates of spaghetti (as long as the sauce was good) and barely feel full. Now, one medium plate is plenty. But I am no longer a growing boy, and I am not all that active. I am still losing the battle of the bulge but slowly.

I am sure these conditions occur in Men, actually so does breast cancer. Less, but it happens. But the question is how much of this is mental. When I was a kid, well not quite, I had a car, we used to go to the icecream shop this one guy would always throw up after eating his icecream. And we did not fuck around, we got banana splits (mine with no chocolate so you could really taste it) and such, not just cones. This girl with us said something about he might make himself diabetic or something if he kept it up. She was in some kind of school. She probably read somewhere that bolemics are more likely to be diabetic, but then that does ot prove what caused what, or even if there is a causation. Correlation does not equal causation. I saw him again a few months ago and he seemed to still have hair and teeth so I guess he is alright, but I doubt he kept on doing that. He was also a crackhead for a while but grew out of that, he is 56 now.

But anyway, we are back where we started. We do not know whether it is nature or nurture. And who cares ?

I like to smoke pot. Someone out there came out with an article, I mean a doctor not Joe Sixpack, that there is a THC receptor in some people's brains and that makes them like it. And indeed I have introduced others to it who said it did not get them high. One was one of my friend's Mother, she said it cleared her sinuses. I've known people who can drink a whole fifth of eighty proof liquor and drive perfectly, even get stopped by the cops and not even suspected of drunk driving. Others can't drink three lightweight beers and even walk to their car. It is said that any Orientals get sick fro alcohol, but I am sure it does not mean all of them, someone is making saki over there so someone is drinking it.

While the physical and the mental have to be studied more TOGETHER, we do know that body chemistry as well as brain chemistry can be affected by other influences. And each other. It is a big ass complicated mess but then we are dealing with the most complex machine on the face of the Earth - humans.

I used to think that being homosexual was a willful act. Impelled by one's desires of course but due to their weakness. then I get into a serious discussion with a homosexual Man and I learned.

He said nobody would choose this. They find out at school you get picked on, other things too, like on the outside. But the fact is that if you see a really nice broad and she doesn't turn you on but her boyfriend does, what the fuck do you want me to do about it ? And then I remembered my kink. just a regular barenaked Lady doesn't do much for me. But get her a collar and cuffs then we are talking here. I can't help that.

I don't know why. And neither do they. And the same with the anorexics. If they knew the root of the problem they could address it.

But with homosexuals, that is different. People say the Earth is not overpopulated but they are full of shit. We only have so much land where we can actually live. I think people sense that instinctively and are thus more likely to go homo. It has been proven in many animal experiments and really, the sexual part of your life is pretty much animal.

Hopefully :-)

T^T




Nnanji -> RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia (11/16/2016 7:35:12 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

As far as the "gay gene" goes, I found this article to be fairly balanced, acknowledging what has and has not been accepted as science, and explaining what avenues current research is going down and why.

When I saw the title, I was prepared for an inflammatory political argument, but that's not the case at all.

http://www.livescience.com/50058-being-gay-not-a-choice.html




Thank you.




Termyn8or -> RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia (11/16/2016 7:43:55 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

If you had a loved one suffering from anorexia would you help them to see themselves as fat and encourage them to get lyposuction?

http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/clarion-call/59565-the-entire-lgbt-narrative-just-crumbled

I have always said being gay or lesbian or bisexual, is just another kink.
My own country refuse to legalise homosexuality until there is scientific evidence that it is in-born. I always wondered how come there is no credible scientific evidence yet that my government will recognized if the west is so convinced it's inborn?
But the thing is, being into BDSM, I don't see kinks as harmful, unless that kink is pedophilia. I also see pedophilia as a kink. There are harmless kinks and negative kinks.

IF it's pedophilia, the person needs treatment.

But if someone thinks they are gay or lesbian, honestly, the only treatment they need is acceptance, then there will be no issues. They just need to accept themselves, and feel like others accept them as normal people.

I feel like most of these problems they are facing right now is thanks to ostracisation.



There is also the matter of what you call pedophilia. Jerry Lee Lewis, a musician of note, married his 13 year old cousin. Prefectly legal at the time. Ted Nugent is shunned by many for "buying" a teenage bride. I think she was also 13 but not yet of marrying age in that state so he paid her Parents to allow him to adopt her. Nugent also admitted to getting alot of pussy on the road.

When you happen to fuck a girl that is not of legal age that is not pedophilia. Legally yes, but in real life pedophilia means that she was prepubescent. THAT is the fucking problem.

Perhaps they were too young, but they were fully developed and they were not forced into anything.

Unlike that eight year old girl in Yemen sold into marriage by her Sire (not Father obviously) who got ripped to death as her 40 year old "Husband" consummated the marriage. And this was a US approved government. Yup, Obama made an executive order that anyone going against the Yemeni government is subject to having their assets seized. What a peace loving totalitarian eh ?

T^T

T^T




Greta75 -> RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia (11/16/2016 7:48:05 PM)

I don't consider marriage to a teenager girl pedophilia. I am talking about prepubescent. I mean I keep calling a Muhamamd a pedo because he practically married an 9 yr old and penetrated her at 10.

Now that is officially a pedo. And Islam Sharia laws has specific laws for prepubescent divorces. Men who divorce their pre puberscent wife.




Greta75 -> RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia (11/16/2016 8:11:19 PM)

FR
Actually if someone has anorexia. They also just need self-acceptance and people acceptance. The more accepted they feel and comfortable. They will heal.
All these problems are emotional problems.




JVoV -> RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia (11/16/2016 8:14:26 PM)

Dr Oz said that women wearing make-up during pregnancy can make the child gay. That has changed my mother's attitude on the subject somewhat drastically the last few years.

Now, there are possibly dozens of contributing factors that have lead to me fully embracing my homosexuality. Early exposure, daddy issues, Madonna & Cyndi Lauper videos, whatever. That may explain it, but by no means does it negate the facts that I am physically attracted to men, thoroughly enjoy giving and getting both oral and anal sex with men, have absolutely no sexual desire for women (though boobs are quite nice), and am physically repulsed by a woman's genitals.

Trust me. I've prayed. I've faked it, trying to be 'normal'. I've gone on testosterone boosters to 'fix' it. But none of that changed anything. In fact, it all just lead to worsening depression, which medication couldn't cure. So I embraced my true self, and I've lived a much happier life.

I don't mind this conversation, but it seems out of place on a site such as this. Because really, if everyone that's posted in this thread had a group session about their sex and kink lives with any shrink, I'm sure they'd run screaming.




Wayward5oul -> RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia (11/16/2016 8:22:40 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji


quote:

ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

As far as the "gay gene" goes, I found this article to be fairly balanced, acknowledging what has and has not been accepted as science, and explaining what avenues current research is going down and why.

When I saw the title, I was prepared for an inflammatory political argument, but that's not the case at all.

http://www.livescience.com/50058-being-gay-not-a-choice.html




Thank you.

You are welcome. I hope it is informative.




JVoV -> RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia (11/16/2016 8:23:42 PM)

I will also add that I watched Return of the Jedi as a child, the same night i watched the first porn video i ever saw. And the chick's vajayjay looked like the thing in the desert that ate Boba Fett.




tamaka -> RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia (11/16/2016 8:25:38 PM)

I've taught my shrink a few things. I'm pretty sure I'm one of his favorite clients... i am certainly not boring him by any means. ; )




tamaka -> RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia (11/16/2016 8:27:37 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: JVoV

I will also add that I watched Return of the Jedi as a child, the same night i watched the first porn video i ever saw. And the chick's vajayjay looked like the thing in the desert that ate Boba Fett.



Lol...




Wayward5oul -> RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia (11/16/2016 8:29:29 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: JVoV

I will also add that I watched Return of the Jedi as a child, the same night i watched the first porn video i ever saw. And the chick's vajayjay looked like the thing in the desert that ate Boba Fett.

I am so glad I'm not the only one who thought that. ..




JVoV -> RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia (11/16/2016 8:30:26 PM)

Exactly. I'm not sticking my dick in one of those!




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