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ORIGINAL: Stephann

The issue of tort law runs a little deeper, I'm afraid.  If prostitution is legalized, a man acquires AIDS and 'verifies' that he got it from the prostitute, he has a case that she is liable for damages.  He might extend it to the brothel he found her, for not testing her.  It might extend further to whatever client gave it to the woman (assuming he paid with a credit card?  She didn't have to know his name, just his credit card number.)  Honestly, nothing prevents this sort of lawsuit right now, though a jury isn't usually sympathetic when we get hurt doing something illegal, and the common 'crack whore' isn't likely to have ten million dollars just laying around.  The government might not necessarily directly be responsible, but in legalizing what they see as a 'dangerous' activity, they open the door for a flood of cases.  Hell, even smoking is a legal activity and that doesn't stop lawsuits against cigarette manufacturers based -strictly- on health merits.

I'm not saying I like it, but it's definately a point that needs to be considered.

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ORIGINAL: CalliopePurple

dave, now I have that godforsaken Green Day song stuck in my head.

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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

Huh?  Doesn't it count that the man was freely putting himself in danger?

Doesn't anyone take personal responsibility for what they do any more?

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ORIGINAL: Stephann

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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

Huh?  Doesn't it count that the man was freely putting himself in danger?
Doesn't anyone take personal responsibility for what they do any more?

Sadly, we both know better.

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ORIGINAL: Stephann

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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

Huh?  Doesn't it count that the man was freely putting himself in danger?

Doesn't anyone take personal responsibility for what they do any more?

Sadly, we both know better.

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ORIGINAL: petdave

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ORIGINAL: CalliopePurple

dave, now I have that godforsaken Green Day song stuck in my head.

Sorry. On the plus side, it's not really that catchy, so you should be rid of it in a day or so. i made the mistake of watching "Little Shop of Horrors" this weekend, and i'm STILL stuck with "Mean Green Mother from Outer Space", complete with the mental image of the cute little Audrey heads popping up to sing harmony. Can't get shit done that requires any kind of concentration. 

Other idle thoughts (there must be some here who will discuss their visits to or work with legal brothels)... i understand that there's a scale of prices depending on what act you want to perform, which makes sense. Are there different price lists for the exceptionally repugnant clientele? An extra price per pound over the "obese" rating for your height? i assume there's no discount for especially "quick" sessions, as i'm sure that's where a lot of the profit margin lies, right? If you pay to go down on a girl/have her facesit you, do moustache-wearers have to pay extra because they're effectively taking home a "doggy bag"?

...dave
(this is your brain on caffeine withdrawal)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Clearly you do not. 
Neither the state of Nevada nor any licensed brothel in the state of Nevada has been sued.
If one makes an informed choice they are not allowed to sue.  If the choice was made without all the known facts being presented then there is a tort.
thompson

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ORIGINAL: Stephann

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Clearly you do not. 
Neither the state of Nevada nor any licensed brothel in the state of Nevada has been sued.
If one makes an informed choice they are not allowed to sue.  If the choice was made without all the known facts being presented then there is a tort.
thompson

Apples to Oranges.  The Nevada prostitution laws are quite old, the customs well established, the brothels heavily regulated, and employ a nominal 300 or so prostitutes at any given time (give or take a dozen.)  It's simply not an accurate model.
Clearly you do not know what you are talking about.  Do you just post to see your ink on the page.
Nevada licensed its first legal butt hut in 1967.
Nevada is not only an accurate model but the only model in the US.
We are talking here in this thread about legalizing prostution and having the state monitor it.  Since this is what is currently happening in Nevada how can you say it is not relevant.  Not only is it relevant it could and should be a model for the rest of the states.
Ely has two ladies working.
Carlin has a dozen.
Battle mountain about six.
The four on Baud street in Winnamucca employ about two dozen each.
Lathrop wells has about a dozen in each house.
Paraumph almost three dozen.
None of the brothels in Elko have more than two dozen each.
The Mustang Ranch is the largest and I have never seen more than 100 at any given time there.
You could go on line,  many of them have a website with pictures of the girls.
It is probably a good thing you teach english and not logic.

Twenty years ago, if you had said that cigarette smokers were going to sue and win multi-million dollar damages, you'd have been laughed out of the office. 
Do you actually read this stuff before you put your name on it?
thompson

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

I
Stephan:
How did you arrive at the 2000% mark up figure?  There is not a dope dealer in the world who would not sell his or her soul for a mark up like that.
If we look in the magazine Hi Times which quotes drug prices on the street in various metropolitan areas.  Good pot runs about $500 per ounce that would make the dealers cost .25 cents an ounce.  Cocaine at $2000 an ounce would make the dealers cost $1.00 an ounce.   Your figures seem a little inflated.
thompson

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ORIGINAL:  Guy Louis Rocha
State Archivist
Nevada State Library and Archives
8/4/1999

In 1871, a bill was introduced in the state legislature that would have legalized brothel prostitution statewide. Licenses were to be issued by the Sheriff to the operator of a bawdy-house, or place for the purposes of prostitution, at a cost of $10 per month, up to one year’s time. All prostitutes were required to submit to a health exam every two weeks by a physician selected by the county commissioners. All license money and fees associated with issuing certificates of health to the prostitutes were to be paid into the county treasury, and a bawdy-house fund was to be maintained. This money was to be used for prostitutes working at a licensed brothel, and maintaining a current certificate of health, who contracted venereal disease in order to pay her medical expenses. The bill, if passed, would have repealed the option for any town or incorporated municipality to regulate houses of prostitution. The bill passed the Assembly by a large margin, but was indefinitely postponed in the Senate. It is interesting to note that a primary concern in this piece of legislation was the public health considerations, particularly for prostitutes.

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ORIGINAL: GrizzlyBear

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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Stephan:
How did you arrive at the 2000% mark up figure?  There is not a dope dealer in the world who would not sell his or her soul for a mark up like that.
If we look in the magazine Hi Times which quotes drug prices on the street in various metropolitan areas.  Good pot runs about $500 per ounce that would make the dealers cost .25 cents an ounce.  Cocaine at $2000 an ounce would make the dealers cost $1.00 an ounce.   Your figures seem a little inflated.
thompson

It would appear that you don't understand percentages.  Per Cent means a portion of a hundredth.  100 percent is 100 hundredths, or one.  A 100% markup means to sell for twice cost, so  markup equals cost.  2000% mark up does not equate to a 2000 times markup, it equates to a 20 times cost markup.
You are absolutely correct and seeksfemslave also pointed out my having my head up my butt with the math.

Cocaine at $2000 per ounce could certainly cost under $100 to produce.  That doesn't mean that everybody in the chain of distribution in making 20 times their cost, it means that the eventual final selling price is at least 20 or so times what the drug cost to produce.
The cited source indicated a 400% mark up from the point of entry into the US.
I suspect that a 2000 per cent total markup over production costs is not that uncommon for patented drugs in the legitimate pharmaceutical industry either.  They do have research to pay for, after all.  Just look what happens to the price of popular drugs when their patents run out and they go generic. 
I agree that research cost money.  The drug companies spend more on advertising than they do on research.
thompson

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ORIGINAL: LadyJulieAnn

I'm all for legalizing prostitution, but I don't agree with you that cerebral palsy, amputations, burns, etc. instantly qualify one as being "pitiful" and unable to find a sexual partner without paying for one.

Be well,
Julie

:( In a perfect world that would be true, but in a world where the less physically and mentally perfect (or seemingly perfect) you are, the fewer people want to screw you, that is an unrealistic statement.

Some of them do.  Just not all of them.  It's one of the really scarring things about something so detrimental happening to you - it will be harder to find the decent people in the world because they are harder to find.  Even really good-hearted people have problems if someone they are ina relationship with ends up with any of the above.

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Stephann:
It is clear that I missunderstood your post. I mistakenly thought you ment 300 girls per house.  300 total for the state is pretty close.
I appologize for the missunderstanding and my shitty math...your source quotes 400% not 2000% but still a far cry from my 20,000% used in my response to you.
thompson

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Or those with wild way out fantasies.

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ORIGINAL: TreSwank

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ORIGINAL: LadyJulieAnn

I'm all for legalizing prostitution, but I don't agree with you that cerebral palsy, amputations, burns, etc. instantly qualify one as being "pitiful" and unable to find a sexual partner without paying for one.

Be well,
Julie

Honey............how many healthy women do you know that would choose an amputee, cerebral palsy sufferer, or a SEVERELY physically handicapped man as a lover?

I know 26 year-old men that are virgins simply by merit of their social ineptitude alone, so I can't really imagine that the severely disabled are doing any better at the game of love.  Let's face the facts...............................healthy women don't want to fuck the handicapped unless "said" party is an individual of vast financial means.  I thank God everyday that I don't have anything wrong with me except for inveterate flakiness and a pack-a-day cigarette habit.