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RE: falling in love with your Master - 5/8/2007 9:11:10 AM   
SimplyMichael


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LA,

I am in a similar situation and while I am attempting something similar it isn't easy when you love someone enough to drop everything and move.  I am trying to help her be more open and honest but that isn't the paradyme she is used to and while her and I have managed to maintain that sort of deep vulnerable honesty, she is a bit locked in her old ways with him.

I have been the third before and it can ONLY work if people are truly open and honest about things.  Telling someone you have submitted to and long for the feel of their hand you might choose someone else over them isn't easy but it is the right thing to do as is the reverse.

However, I have always strongly supported ANY existing relationship and almost lost two dear friends over how they dealt with breaking up a marriage with kids.  I now believe they made the right choices but it took me a while to get to that place.

So, moki1984 do you have kids?  If so THEY need to be your priority and the choices you make need to put them in the primary place.  Staying or going could be the right decision but you need to make sure that whom you choose makes them the number one priority as well.  Dominants who love women who have a man to take care of the day to day issues seldom end up being the men who can love the chaos and loss of attention that children WILL cause.
 
Think LONG and HARD about that.

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RE: falling in love with your Master - 5/8/2007 9:16:52 AM   
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LA,

I am in a similar situation and while I am attempting something similar it isn't easy when you love someone enough to drop everything and move.  I am trying to help her be more open and honest but that isn't the paradyme she is used to and while her and I have managed to maintain that sort of deep vulnerable honesty, she is a bit locked in her old ways with him.

You keep getting attracted to the same situations :)

IMO it would still be the best and right thing for the master to take his leave of the situation- I know *I* would always want my partners to stay true and focus on their priority commitments before getting my fun.  And in this case I definitely consider the marriage to be priority to the temporary master.

It would also be best for Moki to stop wallowing in the pain, hiding from the problems, and start seriously communicating.

It's not easy, and I really am sorry for Moki, but unless she's decided it's just over with the husband, he deserves someone who will honestly work to make the relationship fulfilling- not someone who's "giving him a fair chance" to prove he can make her all hot and lusty.  That's not what marriage or being a good wife is based on IMO.



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RE: falling in love with your Master - 5/8/2007 9:27:42 AM   
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quote:

You keep getting attracted to the same situations :)


Yes, but I think the pattern means something different than you do.  I WANT a stable long term relationship with an amazing woman and women who have that to offer are often in relationships, although in my case they separated a year ago.  In addition, I have had wonderful long term relationships, including my last that were NOT of this dynamic (ie, we lived together and were monogamous)  and my last relationship only ended because I don't want children of my own and she did.

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he deserves someone who will honestly work to make the relationship fulfilling- not someone who's "giving him a fair chance" to prove he can make her all hot and lusty.  That's not what marriage or being a good wife is based on IMO.


I agree

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RE: falling in love with your Master - 5/8/2007 10:08:13 AM   
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although i agree..and honesty is always the best route. it is not about who can make me hot and lusty...it is not about the bdsm.......its about when im with my master d/s relationship aside i am happy....when im with my husband orjust talking to him in general it seems i am begging for some attention from period.....for example so you know what i mean. in the year he has been in korea...he has called me 3x...he refuses to get a cell phone for me to call him because he doesnt want to pay for it...i get one email a month if im lucky and it is not heartfelt....it is about money. im not saying he's an asshole....but he neglects the hell out of my heart. if it was about who makes me all hot and lusty dont you think i would of slept with my master by now? i know i put myself into this situation...im fully aware of that. and i know what is priority...i know what is at risk and im very aware of my previous commitments ie the marriage. i have learned that the old saying you shouldng get married young is ..sometimes true. i married my husband in a justice of the peace a month after we discovered that birth control doesnt always work. that sentence should show you who is priority to me...due to collarme's regulations i cant really say "i have a ***" but i do..and she is young. she is the most imporant aspect to all of this and she is my world...i honestly am not sure which route is better for her. many say with their natural parents...and iunderstand that....but i try to keep him involved with her from afar and he doesnt seem to give two shits....for all I know I might end up leaving both of them because neither are "good"for her. When I say a fair chance im saying i will move with him, i will talk to him and tell him every single thing residing in my heart (i have tried to do this numerous times but he wont communicate with me..he just gets pissed and says im over emotional , to stop whining..and thats it) i would love it if my marriage was wonderful , worked out and we were a happy lil family. but even before I had a master......i was debating if this would work out. it is not my master who has put this issue into play..it was already their. i will get it worked out for the better interest of her...and if that happens to satisfy me as well...great.

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RE: falling in love with your Master - 5/8/2007 12:36:55 PM   
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If I leave my husband .....I will be unhappy and happy at the same time. Happy because I feel like im where im supposed to be with my master and i feel secure, happy, wanted etc. with him.....but I will feel like a complete whore for awhile for leaving hubby...call me old fashion I just never thought the thought of divorce would ever hit my mind. Im not divorcing him right now....i know that. I know for sure I am going to move even if temporarily just to see....I feel as my husband he deserves a fair chance, right? Damnit this situation sucks. Either way I go im going to get hurt and Im either going to hurt My Master or my husband. I dont want to do either.

It seems to me like you want to be with your Master more than your husband. This isn't a bad thing. It also seems like you feel honor bound to stay with him because, at one time or another, you loved him the most [even enough to get hitched.]

I feel like you love your Master more right now than your husband, most probably because your Master is a Dominant man who can give you the understanding [and spankings] that your husband never could.

My suggestion is pretty idealistic, but I've never been good at keeping within the constraints of society...
-->I think you shouldn't move in with either of them. You need to give them both a chance without being 'in the clutches' of one or another. See if you can convince your husband not to move, and to stay and allow you to make up your mind. Also make it clear that because you asked him to stay you are not bound to continue your mariage.
Get to know them both again, and decide then who you love more and who you would be happiest with. You also need to explain all this to both of them so that there are no surprises later.

I'm rooting for your Master, namely because it seems like you love him more.

Good luck! Keep your chin up, and don't give in to guilt trips!




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RE: falling in love with your Master - 5/8/2007 12:43:16 PM   
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You don't owe any man the time of day sweetheart. Do as you please.

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RE: falling in love with your Master - 5/8/2007 2:19:18 PM   
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I’ve been with someone who was married and went through the conflicts with her so I won’t judge you. In her case, she bucked up and left. It really wasn’t about me specifically, but more about the total lack of understanding in her marriage and I offered support during this time. 

Sure lack of D/s was one of the major things not present in her marriage, but also many other things that can be lumped into the incompatible description. After she left, she got her life in order, works hard at her job, bought a house, is about to finish her advanced degree and feels better physically and emotionally. So leaving should always be an option.

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RE: falling in love with your Master - 5/8/2007 6:20:48 PM   
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I still haven't figured out how you ( being in general)  can have a vanilla relationship such as marriage and a D/s relationship with someone  at the same time.  Their is no good way to look at it.. you know sitting on the fence trying to decide what side is greener will give you a sore ass right?

Im still trying to fathom how people actually do this. Being blunt...and not necessarily directed at the OP but pick a side of the fence of stick to it. either have a vanilla relationship and deal with a hubby not interested in BDSM or pick a master and lose  the hubby. but trying to have the best of both worlds to me is greedy and greed IMO always bites you in the ass with big sharp jagged teeth right when you arent looking and lets go about like a pissed off pit bull .

My best advice. Pick a side of the fence.I know that can be hard right now but in the long run it will make your life alot easier. trying to juggle a master and husband is way to complicated anyway. your not giving yourself fully to either relationship so not only are you causing you unnecessary pain you are not being fair to them and are causing them unnecessary pain.






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"Everything i have stated in this post is my opinion, It should be viewed as such. Do not try to quote me and tell me i am wrong, as i can assure you i am not. Opinions cannot be wrong, since opinions are one's "views" of a subject."

That's my opinion.


So instead of given your opinion on the subject or  even your opinion on my opinion at least, you resort to name calling. How mature.

As my sig states its my opinion. My opinion is people put themselves in such situations knowing full well that  at some point it is more than likely going to  sour.  So my opinion was to pick a side  instead of trying to have both.   So do you have an opinion besides" jackass"?

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RE: falling in love with your Master - 5/8/2007 6:22:31 PM   
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Fair warning Moki....this is going to be sort of cut throat, but please realize this is coming for someone who has not only been a wife of a military man who was never home because of TDYs but also because i was active duty myself. Ok so now you know....

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ORIGINAL: moki1984

although i agree..and honesty is always the best route. it is not about who can make me hot and lusty...it is not about the bdsm.......its about when im with my master d/s relationship aside i am happy....when im with my husband orjust talking to him in general it seems i am begging for some attention from period..
Don't need to be hot and lusty for it to be a M/s relationship. It does need to be question why you are putting such a halo on this relationship. I'm sorry, but it can't be perfect. You just don't want to look honestly at the bad points.

...for example so you know what i mean. in the year he has been in korea...he has called me 3x...he refuses to get a cell phone for me to call him because he doesnt want to pay for it...i get one email a month if im lucky and it is not heartfelt....it is about money. im not saying he's an asshole....but he neglects the hell out of my heart.
Sorry but you do sound kind of selfish at this point. He can't get a cell phone if he is an area that doesn't let him talk to you, and the minutes for you to just call when you feel like is extreme. (trust me the over pay you get while he is gone doesn't cover it.) he calls you three times a week is actually ALOT, and the fact that he is making that kind of effort should speak volumes of how he feels about you and the relationship.

if it was about who makes me all hot and lusty dont you think i would of slept with my master by now? i know i put myself into this situation...im fully aware of that. and i know what is priority...i know what is at risk and im very aware of my previous commitments ie the marriage.
Ok the best way to explain this is. While your husband has been gone, you have emotionally and to some point physically replaced your husband. It is easy when he isnt there everyday, and even easier when you have decided to look at your situation from only your needs. Who says that after being around other Doms, and getting some deeper understand of the lifestyle  your husband might be the best thing for you. You don't know, and now need to take responcibility for your actions. MHO....you need to get rid of the Master. There are plent to find another when the time is right and you are in a more stable situation. I am pretty sure he is being minipulative to some point. These are decisions that need to made without him there or around. If he was honorable....he would have done this on his own realizing you need the space to do that.
 
i have learned that the old saying you shouldng get married young is ..sometimes true. i married my husband in a justice of the peace a month after we discovered that birth control doesnt always work. that sentence should show you who is priority to me...due to collarme's regulations i cant really say "i have a ***" but i do..and she is young.
To a point this is true. Marrying young is hard, and even harder when marring young and nieve. But spliting up a marrage, that is rocky because of physical sepereation isn't fair on any party.

she is the most imporant aspect to all of this and she is my world...i honestly am not sure which route is better for her. many say with their natural parents...and iunderstand that....but i try to keep him involved with her from afar and he doesnt seem to give two shits....for all I know I might end up leaving both of them because neither are "good"for her.
Point....he is in the military and getting orders is part of the pay. Second it is your responsability to keep that connection. Is she too young to talk on the phone when he calls three times a week? Do you have pictures around telling her "that is Daddy and he loves us"? Sorry but i saw my husband maybe 90 days some years, and my daughter knew how much her father loved her. Children just know. They also feel it off the parent, so watch how you speak of your husband around her.

When I say a fair chance im saying i will move with him, i will talk to him and tell him every single thing residing in my heart (i have tried to do this numerous times but he wont communicate with me..he just gets pissed and says im over emotional , to stop whining..and thats it) i would love it if my marriage was wonderful , worked out and we were a happy lil family.
No marriage is perfect, and infact it is those marriages that can make it through the dry spells that are stronger in the long run. In giving it an effort, remember to be completely open. Also realize, that what you remember about the realtionship before he left for this tour isn't always reality after so much time has passed. Yes things were hard, but i am sure you had happy moments. Those are the ones you need to hold close to.
 
but even before I had a master......i was debating if this would work out. it is not my master who has put this issue into play..it was already their. i will get it worked out for the better interest of her...and if that happens to satisfy me as well...great.


I don't know how many stories i have heard and seen of military couples getting a divorce, because husband comes home and find wife is sleeping with another man. I know a couple others where the man actually killed himself. You don't know the stress they are going through on the field, even if they aren't actually in the war. it might be why it feels like communication seems short. Another thing that really bothers me, not saying this is what you are doing...but when wives have their second BF it is actually on the expence of the military man. You should question what your life really will be like with this Dom. Where will you live? who will be bring in income? and is it the same as what you are use to with your husbands income? Communication sort of dies when real day stressers come into play. Right now you two don't have that problem, and i can only see that once you two run away and be happy it won't last long.
 
I say all this, because i have seen it. From both points. If your husband wasn't keeping contact at all....i would say you have right to be upset. But he actually really is there for you. i remember meeting the old military wives, and still do through the VA, and thinking how strong they were to still stand by their men when times got tough. You can always tell, but they also seemed proud. Because knowing they have something to come home to, means the world to those over seas. Sorry for being blunt...i hope you see this as me showing you the whole picture and not just from the BDSM world point of view.

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RE: falling in love with your Master - 5/8/2007 6:46:11 PM   
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I think maybe you are just being selfish and immature, and something that Lucky Albatross said really seems to ring true,that you are making petty decisions based on your being in the first rash of passion with this D/s relationship.  Basicly you put yourself, wiillingly into a situation that had much more likelyhood of fucking someone over other than yourself, from the onset.  Now you are reaping the rewards and someone is going to get burned, probably your husband who seems to be the least selfish in this whole mess.  To be honest, I think the Dom is being rather unscrupulous too.

Watch out with him.  If he is willing to dick over your husband, he will probably dick you over too sooner or later.  Maybe you can then go running back to your husband...

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RE: falling in love with your Master - 5/8/2007 8:01:38 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Slavetrainer2007

To me having two sexual and/ or intimate relationships and , i will clarify that any D/s relationship on a physical level is sexual to me,  one being vanilla and one being  D/s  is sitting on a fence trying to decide which  yard has the greener grass.  Of course, I dont understand how someone can be switch either. Your either dominate or your submissive, both are hardwiring to me.  This is like telling me your hairdryer is A/C current and D/C current. it cant be both it has to be one or the other.  either you want a vanilla relationship or your want a D/s one. Wanting both to me  makes me think you are confused to as what you want.

But to each their own. If you like sitting on the fence by all means sit on the fence.  If in you world it can be A/C current and D/C current and  switches are hardwired to sub and dom and they can turn it on and off like a light switch and you can have a vanilla and D/s relationship both then im happy for you..

But in reality, this scenario  with vanilla and D/s at the same time  seems to create  more pain than pleasure.  Sadism anyone?


*edited because I called you a name*
What I should have said was that it's very interesting to me when people have "opinions" on subjects that they clearly know nothing about.
Your post might just as easily have talked about the pain of menstrual cramps because in my opinion, you clearly know about as much about that as you do this thread.


< Message edited by BossyShoeBitch -- 5/8/2007 8:16:40 PM >


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RE: falling in love with your Master - 5/8/2007 8:21:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: CrazyC...for example so you know what i mean. in the year he has been in korea...he has called me 3x...he refuses to get a cell phone for me to call him because he doesnt want to pay for it...i get one email a month if im lucky and it is not heartfelt....it is about money. im not saying he's an asshole....but he neglects the hell out of my heart.

Sorry but you do sound kind of selfish at this point. He can't get a cell phone if he is an area that doesn't let him talk to you, and the minutes for you to just call when you feel like is extreme. (trust me the over pay you get while he is gone doesn't cover it.) he calls you three times a week is actually ALOT, and the fact that he is making that kind of effort should speak volumes of how he feels about you and the relationship.


Just a minor point here, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Moki was saying that her husband has called her 3 times in a year, NOT 3 times per week. That is a huge difference and I would be fucking pissed if my spouse managed to only call me 3 times in a year. Come on now...


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RE: falling in love with your Master - 5/9/2007 1:44:52 AM   
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you could be right and i am sorry for the assumption. I do think we need the whole story as to why he can't call though before thinking it is all his fault. My husband was Explosive Ordanence Disposal and was continually placed in remote places for days to clean fealds. I might also not be in a place he can really tell her what is going on for security reasons. This is all things that happen while on the field.

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RE: falling in love with your Master - 5/9/2007 5:10:44 AM   
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let me explain and i appreciate the blunt honesty...

he has a phone in his hallway, right outside his barracks door...all he needs to do is get a phone card....and he could get a cell phone, he's in south korea not iraq. or he could get vonage and i could call that way...both are options that could of been taken and i asked for many times. but he wouldnt do it....he would rather go to the clubs on weekends, get drunk....then tell me how much money he blew on soju (korean drink) . i know about the army dear....i wasin the army, i met him oversea's. i know about what comes with being an armyw ife BUT....i never asked my husband to send me roses every week and mushy emails every day. I just wanted a phone call once a week at least...i wanted an email every once in awhile and i want t ohear I love you without me having to say it first...i am an affectionate person and rather emotional...so i need to hear i love you and i miss you every once inawhile...i need to hear things like this....when you go almost a full year with nothing of the sort...time after time of talking to them and telling them how you feel...it starts to burn you after awhile. if i got a phone call 3x a week...omg i'de piss myself lol. when i married my husband i was 100% his no questions asked and i loved him immensely......but after awhile you get sick of tears caused by the complete lack of emotion from your signifigant other. i suppose to be honest the real dilemna here is not so much my master...but my husband. My Master aside...my marriage has many issues. If I am selfish for wanting more than 3 phone calls a year, so be it. If im a complete bitch because I want emails sometimes ..so be it. and no...he is not in a position where he cant email me...i was in the army I know what it is like and he has internet in his room and can play online games all day but not send me an "i love you".  I dont honestly konw if my husband loves me...or ever loved me. I have told him this and he told me to stop whining. So Im sorry if my heart has been burnt by him and many of you seem to disagree with me.....i didnt say me having feelings for another man while married was honorable. I know its not...makes me feel like a huge fucking whore even though I have never sexually touched My Master I still feel like its not right on my part. I cant control what I feel though...only attempt to sort it out in a fashion which will lessen the burden of pain on them and on my lil one. I fear me and him doing nothing bur arguing.....its all we really do anymore. Some people have happy reunions..........i have no doubt ours is going to be very awkward. I do love my husband...but I cant keep getting my heart shit on. I tried being a good wife......i did. I sent him emails always, i sent him updates on the lil one all the time, pictures of her....i sent him care packages with love notes tucked into them....made him video's of me and her, especially of her...i tried to make him happy...and nothing seems to matter. I even sent him panties in the mail lolol.....Maybe my master did fill some holes put their by my husband...thats very possible, but I really think the issue here is my marriage...not my master. Master aside I dont know if we can work this out....will it ry? yes.all he has to do is say I love you and awnt to be with you and i will try with all that I have. My husband doesnt talk to me like that though..or treat me like that. The only time i get anything of the nature is if he's fucked up...he loves me when he's drunk. i dont think im selfish for wanting expression of lov and communication....but if you think i am, then so be it. btw...the job he has in the army is the same one i had so i know hat he does everyday and he has access to phones/internet always because he proves the damn internet, phone and all communcation signals period for the military. so even in the field......people in our job have the ability to make phone calls. not long ones mind you..but we coulda lways make a phone call home.

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RE: falling in love with your Master - 5/9/2007 5:29:06 AM   
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I haven't read all of the posts here but moki, I can fully understand your position.  I wouldn't blame you for needing the reassurance that you are needed and loved.  It's not much to ask for.
Of course your Master is plastering over the crack, but by the sounds of it, you would do better to face the reality of your relationship with your hubby and decide if it is good for your emotional health and your lil ones.  Don't ever stay with a man because of the lil one, it is not fair on them. They are so sensitive to atmosphere that even if they don't understand they will be as unhappy as the parents.

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RE: falling in love with your Master - 5/9/2007 6:27:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Slavetrainer2007

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ORIGINAL: earthycouple

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ORIGINAL: Slavetrainer2007

I still haven't figured out how you ( being in general)  can have a vanilla relationship such as marriage and a D/s relationship with someone  at the same time.  Their is no good way to look at it.. you know sitting on the fence trying to decide what side is greener will give you a sore ass right?

Im still trying to fathom how people actually do this. Being blunt...and not necessarily directed at the OP but pick a side of the fence of stick to it. either have a vanilla relationship and deal with a hubby not interested in BDSM or pick a master and lose  the hubby. but trying to have the best of both worlds to me is greedy and greed IMO always bites you in the ass with big sharp jagged teeth right when you arent looking and lets go about like a pissed off pit bull .

My best advice. Pick a side of the fence.I know that can be hard right now but in the long run it will make your life alot easier. trying to juggle a master and husband is way to complicated anyway. your not giving yourself fully to either relationship so not only are you causing you unnecessary pain you are not being fair to them and are causing them unnecessary pain.






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"Everything i have stated in this post is my opinion, It should be viewed as such. Do not try to quote me and tell me i am wrong, as i can assure you i am not. Opinions cannot be wrong, since opinions are one's "views" of a subject."

That's my opinion.


So instead of given your opinion on the subject or  even your opinion on my opinion at least, you resort to name calling. How mature.

As my sig states its my opinion. My opinion is people put themselves in such situations knowing full well that  at some point it is more than likely going to  sour.  So my opinion was to pick a side  instead of trying to have both.   So do you have an opinion besides" jackass"?


Yes I do.  Poly exists; it is a wonderful and amazing journey that can be had with willing participants.  It is a way to get what one needs from a variety of sources and isn't wrong until one is cheating, sneaking and hiding.  I feel for the situation and hope she finds her way and makes peace with her decision.  It's a tough call. Telling her what I would do is not material since my dynamic is different.  The only option is to offer support and suggest she makes sure she is open an honest with all involved.  I certainally would never take someone's pain and turmoil and minimize it and tell them they are wrong.  I agree with the poster who suggests you should keep your mouth shut when you are clueless. 

Mature is calling a spade a spade not beating people when they are down.

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RE: falling in love with your Master - 5/9/2007 6:29:14 AM   
losttreasure


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moki, sweetheart... my heart does go out to you.

The only advice I can give to you is to continue to try to do what is best for both you and your daughter.  Just be cautious about what you sacrifice for your children; they deserve to grow up in a loving and happy home.

I wish you the best.

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RE: falling in love with your Master - 5/9/2007 7:16:20 AM   
slavegirljoy


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ORIGINAL: moki1984
i cant really say "i have a ***" but i do..and she is young. she is the most imporant aspect to all of this and she is my world...i honestly am not sure which route is better for her. many say with their natural parents...and iunderstand that....but i try to keep him involved with her from afar and he doesnt seem to give two shits....for all I know I might end up leaving both of them because neither are "good"for her. 

i will get it worked out for the better interest of her...and if that happens to satisfy me as well...great.


Here's what this mom has to offer, for what it's worth.  Please, remember that as much turmoil & conflict you are feeling in your current situation, "she" is feeling it just as much or more.  Kids sense things, like tension & worry & anxiety & unhappiness from their parent(s).  Please, make sure that whatever you decide to do, that "she" is not going to be left feeling that she doesn't have a safe, secure, and happy home to grow up in.  Sometimes that means having to go it alone for awhile, if there is too much turmoil being caused by being involved with a man (or, men).  After all, you said that "she is the most imporant aspect to all of this and she is my world" and when you are happy and not being preoccupied by "man troubles", she will feel much safer & happier, too.  "She" deserves that.
 
It seems to me that your current options are:
1. get a divorce & stay with your current Master, 
2. leave your Master & return to your husband to try to make your marriage a happy & satisfying one for both of you,
or
3. get a divorce, leave your Master & strike out on your own as a newly single mom, giving yourself time to figure out exactly what it is you need to feel satisfied & content enough to not get yourself in another "crisis", like the one you're in now. 
 
(BTW, kids in single parent homes and/with divorced parents usually do just fine, so long as the parent(s) are there for them to provide a stable, loving, secure home life and don't put the little one in the middle of their problems.)
 
Hope this might be of some help to you in finding a happy resolution to this dilemma for all of you.
 
slave joy
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RE: falling in love with your Master - 5/9/2007 11:44:07 AM   
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Thank you for explaining the situation a little better. If it makes anything better i woke up and realized how wrong i was. Having a fresh head and still hearing Smartass say..." I would be fucking pissed if my spouse managed to only call me 3 times in a year." I realized how wrong that is. I agree now. Only three times that year is too much for any spouce.

But i must say, you seem to be getting a more level idea of what is going on since you first posted. I wouldn't actually want ot be at the airport picking him up. ANd i hate saying it but seperating yourself from him might be good for you and your d. Seeing as he seems to have some other issues that would make it hard for him to ever be there for you.

Oh and yes i wasn't talking about being in a war and in a remote area. There are still places in Korea that are remote. There in fact is a remote place in nevada and arizona where they test bombs. My ex did clean up. But you are right if he is right there where he can get ahold of you...there really isn't an excuse. My ex and i were falling apart and he still called regularly to tell both my daughter and i that he cared.

Again...i'm sorry. I was wrong...and really do hope the best.

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RE: falling in love with your Master - 5/9/2007 12:04:48 PM   
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Okay. If you love someone, Master or otherwise. There is two things you need to do. Be certain of what you want, without a doubt, and then, be certain you are exactly what they want. When kids are involved, it is even more hectic, but it can work. If a person truly loves you, children, or other obsticals will not bring the journey to a hault. It will be a thing you have to BOTH overcome, TOGETHER.
  I myself know this all too well. I am in the middle of the same situation. Along with extra little complications. I am generally a very pessemistic person, but my son and I will one day live with my Master, and we will all be happy. If you want something bad enough, you can have it. No matter what it is.
  I hope this has helped someone. The thought of fighting for a better life keeps me going every day. Take care and God Bless.   -GLB

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