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BBWMistresss -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 7:38:40 AM)
My profile name is clear and not because I flaunt but because I want to be clear I am not a 120pound lady. So having said that it is true that being overweight cause healthproblems. I am a diabetic. But I do work out 3 times a week and I have a list what to eat and what not. I have never been a skinny girl but neither a fat girl in my younger years. I have had messages also with namecalling from so called slaves.....yes wonder why they call themself slaves and message me when they dislike bigger women. I am losing weight slowly but these days we know much more about the danger from being overweight then 20/30 years ago. According dr. Oz (seen at Oprah) is is not the weight we need to worry about but the inches around the stomack so a pear figure is better then a apple and o boy I am a apple. I started dieting when I was 140 pounds and the jojo effect everyone knows is bad for your health even more then overweight. The most important thing I want and hope to see is just respect everyone for who they are. I don't see men being attact by women like we are by men. Excuse me for some mistakes in english but I am dutch and in Europe the weight issue is a big problem to.

MistressSandra2U -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 7:40:34 AM)
When someone is seriously overweight there is more than one condition occuring at once. Physical, mental and organizational issues hinder weight loss. The biggest mistake is being so depressed about your weight that you hide from affection and activity. It's better to believe you are sexy now, deserving now, and ready for activity NOW than when you have lost a couple of dress sizes. In order for someone to receive affection and acceptance at their current weight that person needs pride today. Nothing does better for weight management than support and encouragement. If you can feel sexy today even if you are 350 pounds then you have some hope for a future. It's been proven that people who enjoy frequent sexual activity (more than once a week is a good start) have fewer mental and physical health problems than those that do not get to have sex. Feeling good about sex, getting praise and touch is the cornerstone of kicking the food and sedintary lifestyle habit. Of course overweight people should flaunt and do what they can to attract a partner. Everyone needs sex. This question is almost the same as asking if a morbidly obese person should smile. When you see an overweight person smiling and laughing Question, do you wonder how they could feel good enough about themselves at that weight to smile? Should they weight until they've lost 100 pounds to show their face? What have you done as a health care professional to help one person lose weight?

cjenny -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 7:56:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: merrysbrat I think people are missing the point here, I doubt he's trying to say every woman needs to look like a supermodel, not even close. But when you see a woman who's 100 or more pounds overweight (and I mean really overweight, not what Weight Watchers charts will tell you) that IS unhealthy. There's a point people can reach where it's obvious they're not exercising enough, it's all fat and no muscle, and that's when it gets unhealthy. By no means should every woman weight 120 pounds or less, but when you're pushing four hundred pounds at five foot two inches, that's not something to flaunt, it's dangerously, and to most people ugly. Most of the women who post rants on here about how they're a BBW and they'res nothing wrong with that, there can be medical problems that cause it, blah blah blah, don't even come close to being that fat. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't ever hate someone because of how big they are or refuse to talk to them, I'm not that shallow, but it's not something we should define as 'sexy'. I agree with much of what you posted here. To me someone 100+ lbs overweight is not sexy it is unhealthy & right or wrongly I question myself as to why they are that way. I was fat because I didn't eat properly nor exercise properly and most of that came from laziness/apathy. In one year I lost exactly 100 pounds. I was NOT sexy before that, I was fat. Not a BBW but a fat woman with an unhealthy body. Unfortunately I went to the extreme and became too skinny so I have put back on 20 lbs lol. ( I have to admit I honestly miss being a size 4 for the first first time in my life! Now I am a 10 battling to be an 8 lol) I know there are a lot of men who like heavier women..however I know even more men that want a healthy partner. Personally I have a tough time believing someone over 300 pounds is healthy, the amount of weight being carried is not good nor easy on the body. Physically it is dangerous, socially it is discriminated against. Being fat is not fun. If you can't easily clip your own toenails or put socks on without sitting down I see a problem. Losing weight is a bitch and a half... it can be a lot easier to call yourself BBW than make such a drastic lifestyle change. Almost like it is a rationalization of their weight 'I'm a BBW' gives the chance to be 'beautiful' no matter what. I do not mean to sound harsh, I really don't. But going from 225 to 125 changed me from a fat woman to an average woman. Never did I call myself a BBW simply because I was fat not beautiful. 'You have such a pretty face'. 'She has a fantastic personality!' None of this is directed to anyone, it is just my view having been there & back.

merrysbrat -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 8:05:10 AM)
Wow, cjenny, I'm seriously impressed. My goal is to lose sixty pounds, but having kind of a hard time myself. I know it's just because I'm lazy as hell though [sm=smile.gif]

FatDomDaddy -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 8:13:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion I am 302 I went to the doctors today , absolutely clean bill of health, You need a new doctor.

cjenny -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 8:19:44 AM)
No no. I lost all that thru illness and self imposed starvation. NOT the way to go! So no kudos for me please, I did it all wrong.

FatDomDaddy -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 8:21:22 AM)
Go ahead... keep thing fat is fine, fat is pretty, you can be healthy and morbidly obese....that if other's cannot except you for being 75, 100, 200 over weighing than it is their problem not yours... keep thinking that. You'll be dead soon but at least you can go to your grave bitter. (Fast reply by mistake. Post intended for general thread not any particular poster. FDD)

JadeXTC -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 8:22:47 AM)
i cant imagine being 220 pounds. its unhealthy.

JadeXTC -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 8:26:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cjenny No no. I lost all that thru illness and self imposed starvation. NOT the way to go! So no kudos for me please, I did it all wrong. starving isn't good.

adoracat -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 8:35:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: LadyEllen Almost every female in my ex's family has a "weight problem". This could be This tells me that it must be something genetic that causes it - some trigger within them that causes them to put on weight in adulthood. hypo theyroidism will do it, otherwise i cant think of anything else that could cause it. or its just genetics. i was going to visit my granny a few years back, and had called to ask if she needed anything. some bread from a certain store. not a problem, it was on my way. i was bent over getting the bread off the bottom shelf and i hear from behind me "ok, which one of the _____ girls are you?" i turned around and said "j's daughter" and the owner of the store knew exactly who i was. this is what comes of coming up in a very small town, and having a large family. but she recognised me just from my backside. so yes, there CAN be a family "look".

Quivver -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 8:38:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: merrysbrat There's a point people can reach where it's obvious they're not exercising enough, it's all fat and no muscle, and that's when it gets unhealthy. By no means should every woman weight 120 pounds or less, but when you're pushing four hundred pounds at five foot two inches, that's not something to flaunt, it's dangerously, and to most people ugly. Most of the women who post rants on here about how they're a BBW and they'res nothing wrong with that, there can be medical problems that cause it, blah blah blah, don't even come close to being that fat. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't ever hate someone because of how big they are or refuse to talk to them, I'm not that shallow, but it's not something we should define as 'sexy'. Self esteem is built in the mind. A healty self esteem is needed for self worth. We hear over and over again from Dominants how they dont want a door mat, yet we also hear time and time again from BBW how they have been doormats (not that only BBW can become a door mat) I stand firm that a healthy state of mind is something we should all encourage. And in that we should also enourage healthy lifestyles. Not every 120 pound woman is healthy either, if she lacks muscle and tone you cant call that healthy. 90 pound Super Models are not healthy. Fit is what many of us see when we are judging on the packaging and terming it thin. My pet peve is all those Masters who fail to encourage a sub that could be exactly what they want if they were only to put a little effort into Mastering the sitituation rather then dismissing them immediatly. That dissmissal many times only adds to a diminished self worth and more flippin pounds!

bandit25 -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 8:51:38 AM)
brat, I don't think anyone is missing the point at all. Is it really any of the OP's concern if an overweight woman likes herself the way she is? He's talking about encouraging obesity...I don't see that at all. No one is encouraging it. No one on this or any other thread has ever said (that I recall)...I think you should all gain 100 pounds. If you want to lose weight and CAN and want to, do it. If, for whatever reason someone else CAN'T, it's no one else's business. I think the point is that the OP has no "right" to try and make anyone feel badly. After all, we are all adults here (hah!) and presumably one knows if one is overweight. And who's to say what sexy is? My sexy may not be your sexy.

MellowSir -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 8:54:04 AM)
More sex less food?

cjenny -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 8:59:53 AM)
bandit, that is why I personally don't like the term BBW. It makes it easier to stay fat if you can convince yourself it is beautiful. Someone may be beautiful despite being fat, but I cannot swallow (yesssss pun intended) thinking that an average height woman who weighs in over 250 pounds is a healthy, confident & beautiful woman. I dont mean folks who are overweight, I mean fat. Fat to me is 50+ pounds over the average weight for that height. Curvy is good, fat.. not so much. Anyone ever wonder why there is a stigma against fat folks?

MiladyElaine -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 9:09:28 AM)
To question (dot, dot, dot) " You work in the health care industry and are this rude and not understanding of certain people's situations where they have medical conditions that have caused them to do this? i am sorry but i seriously doubt that and the condescending attitude. " minnetar I second the notion!

cjenny -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 9:10:53 AM)
Um.. I do not work in the health care industry or anything even close.. ?

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 9:17:50 AM)
I agree that healthy is what we're going for here. And I agree that suggesting that unhealthy weight and lifestyle should be praised is really crazy and wrong- this includes ANY form of excess. That doesn't mean a person is bad or crazy or wrong overall just because they have some very unhealthy habits- smokers aren't all bad.

simplyangelic1 -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 9:18:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: question I know that as a society we have a problem with obesity and I want to preclude all those who will respond with..... a little overweight or a little larger. This is for the 350lb individual that should be seeking major medical help not walking around thinking this makes them attractive Hell I know it's not attractive. I don't need you to remind me of that fact. I live it every freaking day of my life. You think I love being this way. That all I do is sit on the couch eating chips and bon bons. Ok maybe some obese people do live like that. Not me, never has been me. I'm always on the go. I work, go to the gym, run errands, keep house, and when the munkins were younger, I was at the ball field most of the time. After reading some of the responses some of you seem to think that we like the way we are. That couldn't be further from the truth. Would you like to have everyone pretend they don't see you most of the time? Can't tell you how many times I've stood in a line only to have the clerk look past me and wait on someone behind me. And I'm not talking about a fast food joint either. BBW doesn't just apply to the body. I'm a BBW because I have a beautiful face, and a beautiful spirit. Since when did beauty only apply to body type anyway? On a side note, why do you think that we have an obesity problem anyway.....could it be that we live in a fast food society where every corner seems to have a golden arches or any number of other grab and go eateries? When was the last time you cooked a meal from scratch that didn't include something from a box? BBW....Big, yep I'm big alright Beautiful, yep Master says I'm beautiful and so do others too Woman, yep that applies too since I have all the right parts in the right places. So I'll keep the title BBW cause it does apply to me[:D]

HutchGarahl -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 9:49:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: question I thought about putting this in the health and safety area but figured I would get a better response here. I do not wish to offend anyone or have people think that I only envision real woman as 90lb supermodels. As a person who works in the healthcare industry I am appalled that someone could even be more than 100lbs over their ideal body weight let alone think it was something to flaunt. For those of you that belive the term BBW applies to a voluptuous full figured woman I have no problems with you and can understand the application of the term. I guess I have lit the fire and look forward to your responses That statement alone bothers me. How can you work in the health industry, feel this way and be happy with yourself? I happen to be one of those in the over 100lb bracket. I have health issues, some caused by the wieght, some not. Some health issues also prevent me from loosing weight easily. Not being able to stand, much less being able to walk good is one, a messed up back for another. No, these were not caused by the weight...but numerous accidents left my body screwed up. Never the less, I have been trying to loose the weight as the weight has become an issue of health. It doesn't matter if a woman is 110lbs or 400lbs....you should love her for what she is inside, not down her for what she looks like. Get mad if ya want, but you should be ashamed to even feel that way.

DominaSmartass -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 10:09:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MellowSir Well it shouldn't be encouraged if only because it's just unhealthy. I like women of all sizes, for bdsm/sex/friendship, but wouldn't marry a bbw mostly because my partner would literally have to keep up with vanilla activities, ie hiking, biking, etc..... There we go again...maybe it's true that some fat people are just couch potatos but I can speak for myself (and I know I'm not the only one on the planet) that I can keep up with anyone in all of those activities. When I lived close enough, I rode a bicycle to work and back everyday and to the store for groceries and the bank...I ride horses, hike, camp, raft, swim, etc. and I know I am not the only fat person who does. So instead of ruling out some hypothetical bbw because she inherently won't be able to keep up with you, why not be open minded and find someone who enjoys the same activities and then just see what she can do?

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