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Totalmaster4you -> What standards do we want or is it no standards at all. (5/12/2007 1:22:29 AM)
Greeting to all the Masters, Dominants, Dommes and Tops. I've been reading on this site as well as others and in my humble opinion I've been aware of a growing level of bitchiness from those that self identify as slaves and submissives. We all participate for different reasons, me to add facts if they are lacking and positive outcomes. Diversity of ideas is not welcomed, rampant bitchiness, a lack of discussion is this the standard that we want as our means of exchanging information and maybe making new friends. So what do we say?

RavenMuse -> RE: What standards do we want or is it no standards at all. (5/12/2007 3:04:57 AM)
So. if I am reading this correctly, your 'complaint' is that you don't like the way you are 'spoken to' by subs/slaves on the board? Wake-up call... if they are not yours, tough, there is only one thing you can do about it... don't participate in those discussions. Unless they are yours then you are not in a possition to impose any rules of behaviour on them. There is one other thing you can do.... look at how many of them 'talk to' others, the respect and friendly banter there. Learn from it and work out why the diffrence. Those Dominants here that are mostly treated respectfully didn't ask the girls to act in any particular way nor try to hold them to any particular standard, they are mostly treated respectfully because the girls have found REASON to respect them.

NakedGirlScout -> RE: What standards do we want or is it no standards at all. (5/12/2007 3:19:05 AM)
Actually, Totalmaster4you, you're the one who has just posted a "bitching" post. May I suggest the ignore/hide/block features of this site to remove those whose words distress you from your sight. You will then never see them again.

cjenny -> RE: What standards do we want or is it no standards at all. (5/12/2007 4:29:46 AM)
I'm sorry but I don't understand what you are asking [8\|]

sambamanslilgirl -> RE: What standards do we want or is it no standards at all. (5/12/2007 4:52:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Totalmaster4you I've been aware of a growing level of bitchiness from those that self identify as slaves and submissives. wow didn't know there was a growing level of bitchiness from the slave/submissive population. or maybe because you perceive that every single slave/submissive (collared or not) is yours to "dom" over. this is CM Headline News flash - we're not. quote: Diversity of ideas is not welcomed, rampant bitchiness, a lack of discussion is this the standard that we want as our means of exchanging information and maybe making new friends. So what do we say? what? where does it say in the BDSM bible that individuals cannot have diverse opinions/ideas and that we all have to agree as one accord? there you go again with the bitchiness - we aren't yours to fall at your knees kissing your little toes. and i haven't seen a lack of discussion around here.

PeggyO -> RE: What standards do we want or is it no standards at all. (5/12/2007 5:10:28 AM)
Hello, Based on other posts you've made in other forums, you seem to have an issue in how women express themselves. I quote " there a number of females that post on here so they can be bitchy plain and simple. " My guess is that you have an expectation of behavior from women that doesn't match reality. When women express themselves in a strong or confident way, my guess is that you interpret it as "bitchy", whereas if a man expressed himself with the exact same words, you wouldn't have a problem with it. Although your post on this thread was not gender specific, my guess is that you were actually referring to female subs. Perhaps it might be good not to look at how others are behaving, but rather your expectations and perhaps stereotypes that lead you to see "bitchiness" in what you read. Be well, Peggy

leatherorlace -> RE: What standards do we want or is it no standards at all. (5/12/2007 5:11:07 AM)
That has to be the biggest beltbuckle that, I've ever seen and I spents years in Texas, Arizona, Nevade, California and points in-between. That's larger than any Champeen Rodeo Buckle that has even been won. Still,, I guess that it does go along with your Super-Duper Heroes collection. What is it about a snivelin' post that escapes, especially whenever it's you that's whining? Maybe you need to read and dissect others reasons or reasonings for any evidence of Bitchiness" before you react to any perceived insult or injury. Gentry quote: ORIGINAL: Totalmaster4you Greeting to all the Masters, Dominants, Dommes and Tops. I've been reading on this site as well as others and in my humble opinion I've been aware of a growing level of bitchiness from those that self identify as slaves and submissives. We all participate for different reasons, me to add facts if they are lacking and positive outcomes. Diversity of ideas is not welcomed, rampant bitchiness, a lack of discussion is this the standard that we want as our means of exchanging information and maybe making new friends. So what do we say?

slaveluci -> RE: What standards do we want or is it no standards at all. (5/12/2007 5:15:23 AM)
There is a forum on these boards where all slaves are supposed to always be pleasing to everyone. i haven't even seen that accomplished there, let alone on the general boards. i certainly didn't sign-up for such an arrangement. Furthermore, i don't "self-identify" as a slave so much as my Master identifies me as such. i am always respectful to Him and show the general populace as much courtesy as they show me. i submit to no one but Him and certainly don't defer to everything someone else says simply because they "self-identify" as a dominant individual. There is certainly no "lack of discussion" in these forums. Sure, there are those who have their minds made up about things and no amount of reason or logic or facts is going to make a dent but, in general, i think most are open to at least accepting others' ways even if they don't see it as working for them. Maybe if you adjusted your own attitude a bit and showed more acceptance, you'd find "new friends"...........slave luci

windchymes -> RE: What standards do we want or is it no standards at all. (5/12/2007 6:04:17 AM)
Oh honey, you haven't seen bitchiness yet. Your name here is only that....it's not a state of reality.

KatyLied -> RE: What standards do we want or is it no standards at all. (5/12/2007 6:10:12 AM)
Good luck on winning friends and influencing people with your thread.

bandit25 -> RE: What standards do we want or is it no standards at all. (5/12/2007 6:14:56 AM)
Are you kidding me? OMG! Hello? Reality check time. Read Ravenmuse's reply and get a clue bucko.

wandersalone -> RE: What standards do we want or is it no standards at all. (5/12/2007 7:32:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Totalmaster4you I've been aware of a growing level of bitchiness from those that self identify as slaves and submissives. Just out of curiousity, are you implying that it would be okay for the people apart from submissives and slaves to be bitchy? Would there be some sort of sliding scale, eg the most domly lord of the universe people get to be the bitchiest and a switch can only be bitchy when in dominant mode? Okay, I have written my bitchy response now to add to it…. The beauty of the internet is that we are forced to let go of our unrealistic expectations of others…unless we want to be constantly disgruntled with the world. People may feel that the anonymity of the internet allows them to be free-er with their comments, some people may be just as blunt in real life, and being a submissive or slave does not preclude us from having a voice and an opinion. Ps. Just as I may disagree with your OP, feel free to disagree with my reply. [:D]

maybemaybenot -> RE: What standards do we want or is it no standards at all. (5/12/2007 8:25:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Totalmaster4you I've been aware of a growing level of bitchiness from those that self identify as slaves and submissives. ** enters quietly with head bowed and speaks in a hushed tone* You nailed it right there !! They " identify " themselves as slaves and submissives. Don't let them fool you, they are not twue or real submissives. exits on tiptoes, making not a sound, kneels at the door, awaiting permission to leave mbmbn

AquaticSub -> RE: What standards do we want or is it no standards at all. (5/12/2007 8:33:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Totalmaster4you Greeting to all the Masters, Dominants, Dommes and Tops. I've been reading on this site as well as others and in my humble opinion I've been aware of a growing level of bitchiness from those that self identify as slaves and submissives. We all participate for different reasons, me to add facts if they are lacking and positive outcomes. Diversity of ideas is not welcomed, rampant bitchiness, a lack of discussion is this the standard that we want as our means of exchanging information and maybe making new friends. So what do we say? I imagine you don't care in the slightest how bitchy dominants/masters/tops/mistresses are. Well, here is how I look at it: I'm Valyraen's pet, his little subbly kitten. I am not yours and therefore, as far is my behavior is concerned you should regard me as an equal and expect nothing from me in the way of submission. You should not expect subs/slaves that you do not own to be on any sort of "good behavior" to you just because you happen to be a dominant. I may chose to display submissive behavior (obeying when asked) for another dominant out of respect for intelliegence, experience or their treatment of those around them. For that matter, Valyraen would be quite cross with me if I started changing myself to suit every person out there who happened to stick master in front of their name.

DiurnalVampire -> RE: What standards do we want or is it no standards at all. (5/12/2007 8:35:35 AM)
I think the problem is not the bitchyness from those who self-identify as slaves. I believe it is the perception and reality issue with those who self-identify as Master. That, see, would be you. You are the one having issues. Opinions and other viewpoints ARE valued, but if you interpret all viewpoints different than your wn as bitchy, well theres the rub. If you are posting hoping that there wil be a huge folowing of peple getting behind you to say "Yes, shush the salves, they shouldnt post unless posted to" then forget it. Most of us enjoy the fact tat on the forums, it doesnt matter what role a person plays. There are no assumed standards as to who can or cant post an opinion or who can or cant get snarky about their replys. Ive aso noticed that the excessive bitchiness hasnt been coming from the slave and sub population lately (self-idenitfied or not whatever that means) but from the smal group of Dominants who seem to think that a persons chosen identiy entitles them so some sort f social standing in the community at lasrge then they complain when they dont get it. Juts my 2 cents, take them as you will :) DV

MellowSir -> RE: What standards do we want or is it no standards at all. (5/12/2007 8:44:57 AM)
A lot of people use the forums just to blow off steam it seems, I know I have vented quite a bit about what a waste of time and space a person that claims to be looking yet never answers their mails is, sure I've been shot down plenty and can handle it ok, just a lot of frustration when it's added to vanilla frustrations too lol

shyinini -> RE: What standards do we want or is it no standards at all. (5/12/2007 8:50:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MellowSir A lot of people use the forums just to blow off steam it seems, I know I have vented quite a bit about what a waste of time and space a person that claims to be looking yet never answers their mails is, sure I've been shot down plenty and can handle it ok, just a lot of frustration when it's added to vanilla frustrations too lol I so agree..... they can be posting left and right here and even say they get no mail but when I leave a message on the other side....no response.

shyinini -> RE: What standards do we want or is it no standards at all. (5/12/2007 8:54:15 AM)
I agree with Mellow and luci..... But ya know.... we all think our thoughts are better than anyones we all tend to be bitchy, sarcastic, costic and so calloused to others so many times... just look at the responses here ! we all make generalizations, judge and blah blah blah blah blah blah........ Look at the thread ! Look at the responses !! EVERY frikkin one of us is described by the OP !! I dare you to introspect and agree with me.

slaveish -> RE: What standards do we want or is it no standards at all. (5/12/2007 9:30:26 AM)
Going from the title of your thread: What standards do we want? Our own. And we can all be pretty defensive of them. Very simple.

farieanne -> RE: What standards do we want or is it no standards at all. (5/12/2007 9:35:41 AM)
i agree with what E/everyone here is saying, that He does not own the sub/slaves here and that they should be thought of as equals and be allowed to "blow" off steam or express themselves freely. However, i also believe that my actions reflect on my Master and though He does not have an account on CM i would never wish others to look down on Him because of me and my actions. i try to always be polite in my responces and post and if i have doubts i wait to post till i can ask my Master.

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