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RE: losing our reading and writing - 5/14/2007 4:39:23 PM   
SDFemDom4cuck


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My um is 22 now. Here in Cali at his schools penmanship was not emphasized at all. They were required to write their papers on computers in order to make it easier for the teachers to read. Even homework assignments were available online to fill out and print off. He grew up watching me write letters and mail them through snail mail. I still do write letters as often as possible. When he complimented how neatly I wrote he was suprised when I explained to him that penmanship was a requirement we had to pass in grade school.

He went into the military after HS and I was horrified the first time he was allowed to send home a letter from Boot Camp. It was completely illegible chicken scratch. When I say I could not read half of what he had written I'm not exagerrating. I told him that unfortunately someone would someday look at his handwriting and make incorrect assumations about his intelligence from it's appearance. He hadn't a clue how to improve it. So I sent him the little cursive notebooks that they practice in gradeschool when they are teaching cursive writing. He made himself practice and even today we tend to write letters and send them snail mail rather than email. He has beautiful handwriting and other people in his squad always ask him to about it. In fact my postman just mentioned the other day how much he enjoys the fact that people still take the time to sit down and write a letter and mail it.

Any doubts why the price of postage keeps going up to make up for the lack of letter writing and sending that goes on today??? 

Whenever he finds a book he likes on the best seller list I try to give him similar books from the classics to read as well. It's worked so far. But then he also saw me reading alot and experienced me reading to him from birth. I would often stop what I was doing and read a particularly interesting or beautifully written phrase or style of writing or him.

< Message edited by SDFemDom4cuck -- 5/14/2007 4:41:18 PM >


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RE: losing our reading and writing - 5/14/2007 5:58:34 PM   
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early on i recall teachers insisting i write with my right hand. well- it did not work.

there are plenty of illiterate adults in this valley.  some can build a house or have outstanding skills- but in terms of writing the most they can do is sign their name. it really is sad.

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RE: losing our reading and writing - 5/14/2007 7:06:41 PM   
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   Today there is this article on the homepage of msn.com about penmenship being an outdated skill, primarily cursive writing. A few months ago I saw a similar article trying to presuade the reader that well...reading is just over rated too and we should strive to teach our children only the bare minimum so that they can type and text and fill out forms at work. I have noticed that while a lot of people laugh at this, there is a dramatic decline in these areas already among the younger generations. I know of so few people in my age and younger who will out of sheer pleasure take up a novel writen 200 years ago and actually understand and enjoy it. I could not believe some of the things that are on my younger sister's summer reading lists- Anne Rice, the Da Vinci Code, etc. All best sellers and good authors in their own right- but none of these books will encourage a young reader to seek out a dictionary nor learn the more exquisite forms of the English language. That, and many can argue about the quality of writing in many modern books. Don't believe me that most young people can't write? Go to any teenage forum and try to decipher the "sms-speak" that dominates those posts.
So, in a few decades of this dumbing down, when handwriting is completely replaced by typing or voice recognition, and holding a pen or writing a letter raises eyebrows, will we still argue that we are moving forward, that we are somehow more educated than our ancestors? How will all of this play when it comes to our freedoms, when the future might not even be able to read the Constitution? Will technology in the end turn all of us into uneducated peasants?



Uhmmm...to be kind...I believe you've just answered your own question (if in fact there actually was one).

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RE: losing our reading and writing - 5/15/2007 6:30:15 AM   
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i am 21 years old. in my school classes there was an emphasis after a certain point on computer learning, everything was done on computers as soon as you got to highschool, and unless your handwriting was completely illegible it was assumed you knew how to write after elementary school. i attended schools where teaching to the test did take up a large portion of classtime, and schools which were better funded and didn't have to worry about it very much.

i am a part of the generation you're talking about that does everything by computer and surely could never make it off the grid... bemoan my lack of a proper education all you like. as far as my math skills go, i have some undefined but well documented math disability and i'd say i deserve it and i'll even agree with you... i can't count back change, i do not know my times tables, etc. but i read everything i can get my hands on from oscar wilde to umberto eco to cheesy grocery store novels. i am a poor speller, but most of the people who have been complaining about the younger generation's lack of education have been much worse than i am at that, of course this could just be their inability to type because they were not taught in school. i was not taught penmanship after a certain point, but one of my hobbies is calligraphy and my handwrititng is very neat when i want it to be. i am not all that unusual, either. most of the people my age that i know read more than thier parents and are more educated and more interested in learning new things.

the truth is that there are stupid people in every generation. the older generations just have the benefit of some of theirs having died off.


< Message edited by missfrillypants -- 5/15/2007 6:31:50 AM >

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RE: losing our reading and writing - 5/15/2007 6:33:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: missfrillypants

the truth is that there are stupid people in every generation. the older generations just have the benefit of some of theirs having died off.



HAHA!

So true, so true!

Gotta got to work, time to scrape up another $0.02,

Dauric.

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