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Paris Hilton Is `Distraught' And `Traumatized' Over Jai... - 5/15/2007 4:59:55 PM   
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aww, don't ya all feel soo bad for her?

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RE: Paris Hilton Is `Distraught' And `Traumatized' Over... - 5/15/2007 5:06:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Why is she making such a big deal about it? People are only serving 10% of their sentences these days. She'll be out in around 2 weeks.

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RE: Paris Hilton Is `Distraught' And `Traumatized' Over... - 5/15/2007 5:09:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		So, the Hilton's add a psychiatrist to the family payroll so the kiddies don't have to grow up. 

I wonder if Paris would care how "distraught" and "traumatized" the family of someone she killed while driving under the influence would have been? 

Nah.

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RE: Paris Hilton Is `Distraught' And `Traumatized' Over... - 5/15/2007 5:11:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		i am sorry as i have no sympathy.  She had her publicist read her sentence and was unaware of it.  There is no excuse for what she did as she has the money to have others drive for her.

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RE: Paris Hilton Is `Distraught' And `Traumatized' Over... - 5/15/2007 5:40:37 PM   
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She's ... distraught to the point of incoherency.... over 45 days... which will probably be served in a minimum security prison....?!?!?

What the hell would she be like if she was convicted of 2nd or 3rd degree manslaughter? The Enron guys were worse off and they didn't turn in to blubbering idiots (Okay, okay, so she allready had the "Idiot" part taken care of.)

I understand that she was sheltered growing up, but by the Divine... I've seen eggshells take more pressure than her.

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RE: Paris Hilton Is `Distraught' And `Traumatized' Over... - 5/15/2007 5:59:44 PM   
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RE: Paris Hilton Is `Distraught' And `Traumatized' Over... - 5/15/2007 6:13:03 PM   
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RE: Paris Hilton Is `Distraught' And `Traumatized' Over... - 5/15/2007 6:15:25 PM   
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aww, don't ya all feel soo bad for her?


As probably the only one here, I do.

Granted, what she did was unacceptable, and people are supposed to be equal under the law.

But the question was whether we felt bad for her, and I do.

Whether or not she's a spoiled brat who doesn't have half a clue what's going on in the world around her really doesn't matter all that much; that's how she was raised. This probably isn't making any sense to her, if she's been living so sheltered from the real world as it might appear, and it always hurts and confuses to be punished for something when you don't understand what's behind it. While it doesn't obviate personal responsibility, we are still very much a product of our environment, and are not always in control of that environment.

Also, quite relevantly, I think it's rather a nasty idea to put her in a regular jail. House arrest somewhere like the witness protection programme would make more sense, and probably be as much of a "step down" from what she's used to as jail would be for the rest of us.

Bear in mind that there are more than a few people out there, myself included, who have the distinct urge to take her down a few notches; show her the "real world", so to speak. I have the restraint that would prevent me from actually doing so, or considering it the right thing to do (although I really do dislike a lot of things about her), but a lot of the people she will be serving time with might not have that restraint, and I would in no way put it past her to keep her foot as firmly planted in her mouth in there as she does in the media, which could constitute provocation.

In the outside world, she has bodyguards to deal with that sort of thing. Not so in prison. The wardens don't count, and quite a few of them might actually be added to the list of candidates that might hurt her in there.

I really don't think it'll be improving anything, and I don't think punishment is a valid goal of any justice system (although it is apparently a stated goal of the US justice system).

As I said, putting her in house arrest with a fairly basic quality of life would be more in the interests of justice. And as for the added cost, just have her foot the bill. I'm sure she'd be happy to, given the alternative.

So, yeah, I feel sorry for her.

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RE: Paris Hilton Is `Distraught' And `Traumatized' Over... - 5/15/2007 6:18:46 PM   
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The idea of Paris locked in a cage turns me on.....


Maybe with a duct tape gag and a brown paper bag over her head.

Quite simply, Paris herself doesn't turn me on, and a cage wouldn't do anything to improve that.

Granted, I'm virtually allergic to the color pink, and brats with brat-dogs, and airheads, and any number of other things that she could probably be held as the gold standard for, judging from the media coverage (I don't know her, obviously).

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RE: Paris Hilton Is `Distraught' And `Traumatized' Over... - 5/15/2007 6:22:20 PM   
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Yes she is enormously wealthy but has a total disregard as to the law.  She didn't even bother to read her sentance to her previous offense.  To me this is a total disregard for the law.  She is not superior based on her wealth and she thought she was.  Hell my parents are wealthy and guess what i know i have to believe and follow the law.

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RE: Paris Hilton Is `Distraught' And `Traumatized' Over... - 5/15/2007 6:29:49 PM   
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Poor little rich girl!


What's wrong with being rich?

My dad always used to say "I'd rather be crying in a Jaguar than on the bus", but I'm not so sure; if you're crying in a Jaguar, chances are money won't fix it, whereas if you're crying on the bus, and aren't an environmentalist, the reasons for it are more likely to be something you could fix or alleviate by throwing money at it. Money is generally easier to come by than good solutions to life crises, adjusted to scale.

The grass is always greener on the other side, and the reason for this is that people adapt their standards to their baseline environment.

If you're used to being dirt poor, you'll get a big lift from winning the lottery, whereas if you're rich, it won't matter. If you're used to eating crap food, a great meal will be an experience, while if you have great cooking done every day, it will be nothing new. If you're used to dealing with big crises in your life, regular crises won't seem like as big a deal, whereas if you're not used to dealing with regular ones, a small one can be a hurdle.

I get being jealous at someone who inherited her fortune, but consider it from a different angle... Her father accumulated great wealth, presumably with enough work to "justify" his gains, so why shouldn't he be allowed to provide for his offspring to the best of his abilities?

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RE: Paris Hilton Is `Distraught' And `Traumatized' Over... - 5/15/2007 6:31:55 PM   
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Poor little rich girl!


What's wrong with being rich?

My dad always used to say "I'd rather be crying in a Jaguar than on the bus", but I'm not so sure; if you're crying in a Jaguar, chances are money won't fix it, whereas if you're crying on the bus, and aren't an environmentalist, the reasons for it are more likely to be something you could fix or alleviate by throwing money at it. Money is generally easier to come by than good solutions to life crises, adjusted to scale.

The grass is always greener on the other side, and the reason for this is that people adapt their standards to their baseline environment.

If you're used to being dirt poor, you'll get a big lift from winning the lottery, whereas if you're rich, it won't matter. If you're used to eating crap food, a great meal will be an experience, while if you have great cooking done every day, it will be nothing new. If you're used to dealing with big crises in your life, regular crises won't seem like as big a deal, whereas if you're not used to dealing with regular ones, a small one can be a hurdle.

I get being jealous at someone who inherited her fortune, but consider it from a different angle... Her father accumulated great wealth, presumably with enough work to "justify" his gains, so why shouldn't he be allowed to provide for his offspring to the best of his abilities?



Sir it has nothing to do with being wealthy or not.  It is basically respect for the law which she thinks she is above. 

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RE: Paris Hilton Is `Distraught' And `Traumatized' Over... - 5/15/2007 6:51:48 PM   
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The fact that she is rich and spoiled has little to do with it, IMO. I think you are sugesting she recieve special treatment in regards to jail, because she is who she is.
Her fear, anxiety and trauma is no different than the same fear, anxiety and trauma I would experience if I were ever sentenced to jail time and no one is going to give me a special deal. I face the same risks she does if I go to jail.
I have absolutely no sympahty for her. I have a friend who was sentenced and served 6 months in jail for driving on a suspended liscense. Not DUI, not driving to endanger, not reckless driving. Pulled over in Boston because the cops recognized him from years ago when he had a drug problem. He, I felt sympathy for, not Ms. Hilton.

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RE: Paris Hilton Is `Distraught' And `Traumatized' Over... - 5/15/2007 6:55:24 PM   
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Poor little rich girl!


What's wrong with being rich?

My dad always used to say "I'd rather be crying in a Jaguar than on the bus", but I'm not so sure; if you're crying in a Jaguar, chances are money won't fix it, whereas if you're crying on the bus, and aren't an environmentalist, the reasons for it are more likely to be something you could fix or alleviate by throwing money at it. Money is generally easier to come by than good solutions to life crises, adjusted to scale.

The grass is always greener on the other side, and the reason for this is that people adapt their standards to their baseline environment.

If you're used to being dirt poor, you'll get a big lift from winning the lottery, whereas if you're rich, it won't matter. If you're used to eating crap food, a great meal will be an experience, while if you have great cooking done every day, it will be nothing new. If you're used to dealing with big crises in your life, regular crises won't seem like as big a deal, whereas if you're not used to dealing with regular ones, a small one can be a hurdle.

I get being jealous at someone who inherited her fortune, but consider it from a different angle... Her father accumulated great wealth, presumably with enough work to "justify" his gains, so why shouldn't he be allowed to provide for his offspring to the best of his abilities?


Well I come from a rich family but was raised that their were consequences for our actions. Just because the rest of us do not feel sorry for her don't whine to me. And hello! the smiley is meant to be sarcastic. Go bug someone else.

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Go Away Paris Hilton - 5/15/2007 6:56:34 PM   
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RE: Paris Hilton Is `Distraught' And `Traumatized' Over... - 5/15/2007 6:57:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's not so much the fact that she is rich.  I know lots of people with money who are very nice and down to earth.  But she has made it her trademark to be a rich "bitch".  She wants to be known as the spoiled brat, that is the public persona that she puts out there.  Even her show, The Simple Life, portrays her as a spoiled little rich girl who is not in touch with the real world.  But, who knows what she is like in private?  She could be a very intelligent, informed and aware person.  However if she is, she doesn't want us to see that side of her it seems.  Given that, she cannot expect anyone to feel sorry for her plight and in fact it makes a lot of people even want to see it happen.  I think it's pretty hilarious myself.  Maybe the jail could do a "Paris in Prison" reality show to get some money to help run the place.

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RE: Paris Hilton Is `Distraught' And `Traumatized' Over... - 5/15/2007 6:59:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: minnetar

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ORIGINAL: Aswad

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ORIGINAL: sweetnurseBBW

Poor little rich girl!


What's wrong with being rich?

My dad always used to say "I'd rather be crying in a Jaguar than on the bus", but I'm not so sure; if you're crying in a Jaguar, chances are money won't fix it, whereas if you're crying on the bus, and aren't an environmentalist, the reasons for it are more likely to be something you could fix or alleviate by throwing money at it. Money is generally easier to come by than good solutions to life crises, adjusted to scale.

The grass is always greener on the other side, and the reason for this is that people adapt their standards to their baseline environment.

If you're used to being dirt poor, you'll get a big lift from winning the lottery, whereas if you're rich, it won't matter. If you're used to eating crap food, a great meal will be an experience, while if you have great cooking done every day, it will be nothing new. If you're used to dealing with big crises in your life, regular crises won't seem like as big a deal, whereas if you're not used to dealing with regular ones, a small one can be a hurdle.

I get being jealous at someone who inherited her fortune, but consider it from a different angle... Her father accumulated great wealth, presumably with enough work to "justify" his gains, so why shouldn't he be allowed to provide for his offspring to the best of his abilities?



Sir it has nothing to do with being wealthy or not.  It is basically respect for the law which she thinks she is above. 

minnetar



Thank you. Someone gets it and knows sarcasm when they see it. I came from a wealthy family but knew right and wrong. She thinks she is above the law and no I don't feel sorry for her because she will maybe serve 20 days when most get more than that for the same crime.

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RE: Paris Hilton Is `Distraught' And `Traumatized' Over... - 5/15/2007 7:12:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		"What's wrong with being rich? "

Conbined with dignity and style, absolutely nothing.

"I get being jealous at someone who inherited her fortune, but consider it from a different angle"

I think you need to consider a different angle. Perhaps peoples feelings towards paris hilton have nothing to do with money, and everything to do with behaviour? I'm not an American, but from what I've seen of the culture paris hilton seems to fit the Jerry Springer white trash label, if her family didn't have money?

"so why shouldn't he be allowed to provide for his offspring to the best of his abilities? "

What would give you the idea he had provided for his offspring to the best of his ability? She seems far to spoilt and bratty to have been provided for with any ability?

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RE: Paris Hilton Is `Distraught' And `Traumatized' Over... - 5/15/2007 7:39:53 PM   
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1.  Also, quite relevantly, I think it's rather a nasty idea to put her in a regular jail. House arrest somewhere like the witness protection programme would make more sense, and probably be as much of a "step down" from what she's used to as jail would be for the rest of us.

2.  In the outside world, she has bodyguards to deal with that sort of thing. Not so in prison. The wardens don't count, and quite a few of them might actually be added to the list of candidates that might hurt her in there.

3.  I really don't think it'll be improving anything, and I don't think punishment is a valid goal of any justice system (although it is apparently a stated goal of the US justice system).

4.  As I said, putting her in house arrest with a fairly basic quality of life would be more in the interests of justice. And as for the added cost, just have her foot the bill. I'm sure she'd be happy to, given the alternative.

5.  So, yeah, I feel sorry for her.



1. a rather nasty idea? i don't understand that statement at all. the jail is not there only for offenders that are poor. i dont think people who break the law should be punished differently just because they have money. this isnt about giving her a "step down" from the glamorous life she is used to, its about punishing her for breaking the law.

2. do you honestly believe that the wardens would treat her in any way that the law does not allow? dont you think if she was treated in any way that was inapproperate she would be on the phone to her father? in fact i Highly doubt she would be in the general public at any time.

3. i think it will improve her attitude that she is above the law.

4. i dont find that to be justice at all. it isnt about making her happy. the goal of punishment is not to make the offender happy.

5. on one hand i feel bad for anyone who is experiencing anything unpleasant. on the other hand untill the system is changed All should face the same consequences for their actions.



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RE: Paris Hilton Is `Distraught' And `Traumatized' Over... - 5/15/2007 7:49:40 PM   
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Her fear, anxiety and trauma is no different than the same fear, anxiety and trauma I would experience if I were ever sentenced to jail time and no one is going to give me a special deal. I face the same risks she does if I go to jail.


I'm such a bleeding heart, I feel sorry for just about anyone going to jail, though I recognize some people do pretty hideous things to get there.

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