Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

RE: When love gets in the way.


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> General BDSM Discussion >> RE: When love gets in the way. Page: <<   < prev  1 [2] 3   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: When love gets in the way. - 5/22/2007 9:27:45 AM   
peepeegirl5


Posts: 214
Joined: 3/12/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: subsnow

There have probably been hundreds of threads started on this already but another one can't hurt.

i am completely in love with my Dom. He is my everything. i wouldn't leave Him for anything. i'm having a problem though. The D/s dynamic of O/our relationship is disappearing and being replaced by a vanilla relationship. It's a very happy vanilla relationship but i am seriously craving that dominance and BDSM. my Dom still controls certain things but usually they are things that will make His life easier at the present time. For example, He will ask me to go to the store for Him or do His laundry or give Him a massage. i love doing these things but i feel like there should be more. i guess He can take control of as much as He wants being the Dom and all but where is the line? How much control does it take to be called a Dom? With the way things are right now, i feel like i'm living with a parent rather than a Dom because even the BDSM has disappeared. There is some playful spanking and hair pulling but that seems so vanilla to me. i am craving more. A lot of people would say that W/we might just be incompatible but that's not the case here. He wants the same thing as i do but He just isn't taking the control. i understand why. His job is very stressful and He works a lot so when W/we see each other on the weekends, He wants to relax, not worry about punishments and rewards and working out scenes. my service to Him makes His weekends more relaxing and stress free. He has the right to do that too as a Dom, but again, where is the line? i don't want to leave Him because i love Him.

What have others done in a situation like this and how much control does someone need to take to be called a Dom?

(Some background: W/we live together but He travels for His job during the week. W/we only see each other on the weekends. W/we've been together for 5 months but W/we love each other. W/we feel like soul mates. W/we have great communication and i talk to Him about everything. i sent Him a message about this very problem last night and am eagerly awaiting His response.)


The answer is to get those subbies out there dealing with the stresses of the working world and bringing home the money for the domme. In that manner I have time to rest and restore my energy. A Domme is an artist. An artist isn't paid for her labor, but for her vision.

(in reply to subsnow)
Profile   Post #: 21
RE: When love gets in the way. - 5/22/2007 10:21:51 AM   
leatherette


Posts: 255
Status: offline
hello :)
I must agree with those that state "Whats love got to do with it". Do you feel that BDSM isn't loving?

So, the D/s part is working ( you do things to make life easier and pleasant for him and he is take charge, even if in a parental way)
You get along great and have warm, loving feelings that you can mutually express.

What is not working for you is the not enough SM. 
- Has he said that working "a scene" is another chore, or stressful, or anything to add a burden on him?
-Was he new to BDSM before your relationship ( or fairly new)?
-Has his health been good, or is he run down? ( Besides mental stress - I mean an underlying health problem)

I am gently asking these questions to help clairify your concerns. Please forgive the forwardness.
I ask you those particular questions because:
-I have found getting physical to be a great stress reliever, as others have.

-If he isn't confident enough in his role, perhaps it is newish to him, or maybe he is more comfortable with the D/s side than the SM side.  Have you both considered that they are not the same thing? That is a subject to talk about.
There is another thread going on about this, I think. Check it out, if you'd care to.

From talking to people and my own semi experienced journey - many don't realize D/s and SM are not the same thing ( hard for me to explain- others can do better), but both are often, merrily and successfully paired by many of us.
It sounds like you - yourself prefer a mix of both. What is his take on it? Is he fully comfortable in that SM top role? I mean.. does it light his fire?

If it doesn't spark him up, I'd presume he is physically run down enough to need a check up for any health problem, or he may not be as excited by it as you are, it may not be natural for him. This is all meant kindly, and I hope it adds a little something to think about at least.

Best wishes for you successfully working things out.





(in reply to peepeegirl5)
Profile   Post #: 22
RE: When love gets in the way. - 5/22/2007 11:46:52 AM   
meticulousgirl


Posts: 969
Joined: 2/20/2007
Status: offline
I think I read most of the replies and gave up.  It's not that others dont understand it's more the fact that I dont think they have been through it.  No experience is the same, and no one can tell you what is right or wrong for your particular problem.

These websites have numerous individuals and couples on them, some live real life, and well there are others that spend the entire day and night in these forums telling everyone else how to go about their day, and personal lives when they have never done it anywhere but online and phone if that.

What do you think you should do?

I have spent four years with the same Master and over time I've come to the same road your at,  mentally I have expanded way beyond what I ever thought that I would, and there is no service oriented work for me to do at all, i've actually been told that i am more of a bottom than a slave because i ask for play when i dont get it every so often, that person couldn't be more wrong but i've learned not to say anything in return to it because it'll just go in one ear and out the other so to speak.  You have one set of tasks that you can do which is one more than I have.  Communication is my advice to you, dont be rude or disrespectful just tell Him that you are growing and you feel as though you need more than what is being given.  If you verbally cant find the words, try emailing them...that works better for me.  I wish you the best in what comes from this experience, take it and learn from it the best that you can.


(in reply to MistressKay)
Profile   Post #: 23
RE: When love gets in the way. - 5/22/2007 12:04:57 PM   
CrazyC


Posts: 949
Joined: 9/28/2006
Status: offline
I have a friend who's Dom says he loves her too much to beat her. They came ot the agreement, since she needs the pain occationally, that she can play with others. She never has sex, but he understands she loves pain. Maybe there is some type of compramise you can agree to.

_____________________________

"You never lose by loving. You always lose by holding back." Barbara De Angelis

(in reply to meticulousgirl)
Profile   Post #: 24
RE: When love gets in the way. - 5/22/2007 12:09:46 PM   
BOUNTYHUNTER


Posts: 9259
Joined: 2/5/2004
Status: offline
Love never gets in the way, hell what does love have to do with it girl?...bounty

_____________________________

US going to hell in a hand basket/

(in reply to CrazyC)
Profile   Post #: 25
RE: When love gets in the way. - 5/22/2007 12:44:26 PM   
OsideGirl


Posts: 14441
Joined: 7/1/2005
From: United States
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: CrazyC

I have a friend who's Dom says he loves her too much to beat her.
  We went through this shortly after we were married. Master's core urge to protect me came into battle with his sadistic nature (and he's a reknown sadist in our community). It took some time but we worked our way through it. 

_____________________________

Give a girl the right shoes and she will conquer the world. ~ Marilyn Monroe

The Accelerated Velocity of Terminological Inexactitude

(in reply to CrazyC)
Profile   Post #: 26
RE: When love gets in the way. - 5/22/2007 1:55:57 PM   
sweetnurseBBW


Posts: 2464
Joined: 1/26/2006
From: North Carolina
Status: offline
The reality of 24/7 is what you are seeing now. Most of us have jobs, families to take care of as well. I don't know what you mean by control. What kind of control do you think he should be giving?  Master gives me freedom to make alot of my own decisions. If you feel the relationship is not what is should be then you need to talk to him about it. That is the only way to get things out and solve issues.  Love doesn't get in the way unless you both let it. Love has made us stronger.

< Message edited by sweetnurseBBW -- 5/22/2007 1:56:54 PM >


_____________________________

Sir Pain's pain slut

(in reply to subsnow)
Profile   Post #: 27
RE: When love gets in the way. - 5/22/2007 2:19:48 PM   
MagiksSlave


Posts: 2768
Joined: 9/11/2006
Status: offline
It seems to me that your frustrated that he is haveing you just do things to make his life easier which I agree is keeping up your end of the D/s relationship by beeing the sub and doing those things, but it also sounds one sided You are doing the sub like things that he wants but he isnt giveing you the Domly things that you want. I agree the sub should do as told and such but in return for those things they get what they need which is to be Dominated and in some cases that is physical Domination and it seem to me he isnt holding up his side of the relationship and that isnt right and isnt fair. You need to talk to him about this tell him you dont feel that you are beeing Dominated and that you are the only one giveing in this relationship. he may not realise you feel that way or see that this is what is going on.


Magik's slave

_____________________________

If you’re going through hell keep on moving
don't slow down
if you’re scared dont show it
you might get out
before the devil even knows your there.


-Rodney Atkins-



(in reply to MistressKay)
Profile   Post #: 28
RE: When love gets in the way. - 5/22/2007 5:23:15 PM   
RobertCloud


Posts: 2959
Joined: 6/28/2006
Status: offline
You are in a D/s relationship where for 4 nights a week the man of your life is taken out of your life because of a job and he is unable to be with you at all.

He loves you, you love him. When he can see you on the 3 nights you are together on the weekends he wants to relax and spend time with you. The D/s dynamic is still there, but the BDSM dynamic is lacking. Does this mean you are going vanilla? NO!!!!

This means the man MISSES YOU, and wants to be able to hold you. Also, I agree with another, it has only been 5 months. Give it time, th BDSM will creep back in as you settle more into the work zone. However, as long as he has to commute that great of a distance and spend so little time with you during the week it is always going to be less than it could be. You need to understand that this does not make it less, nor is it fair on either of you. Sometimes you really have to decide whether the job is worth the suffering or to take a job making less so you can be together more.

Personally, I would never do as he is doing, no matter what the job was. I understand others doing it, but it is my own preference. Also in my own relationship, the BDSM dynamic is not a daily occurence with my girl when we are together. It is not even often. However the D/s is constant, non-stop. It may not be apparent to all around us, but it is to us.

_____________________________

Author for Black Velvet Seductions
she melted to her knees and crawled to her master.
Toy's Story: Acquisition of a Sex Toy

(in reply to MagiksSlave)
Profile   Post #: 29
RE: When love gets in the way. - 5/22/2007 5:37:05 PM   
CreativeDominant


Posts: 11032
Joined: 3/11/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: subsnow

There have probably been hundreds of threads started on this already but another one can't hurt.

i am completely in love with my Dom. He is my everything. i wouldn't leave Him for anything. i'm having a problem though. The D/s dynamic of O/our relationship is disappearing and being replaced by a vanilla relationship. It's a very happy vanilla relationship but i am seriously craving that dominance and BDSM. my Dom still controls certain things but usually they are things that will make His life easier at the present time. For example, He will ask me to go to the store for Him or do His laundry or give Him a massage. i love doing these things but i feel like there should be more. i guess He can take control of as much as He wants being the Dom and all but where is the line? How much control does it take to be called a Dom? With the way things are right now, i feel like i'm living with a parent rather than a Dom because even the BDSM has disappeared. There is some playful spanking and hair pulling but that seems so vanilla to me. i am craving more. A lot of people would say that W/we might just be incompatible but that's not the case here. He wants the same thing as i do but He just isn't taking the control. i understand why. His job is very stressful and He works a lot so when W/we see each other on the weekends, He wants to relax, not worry about punishments and rewards and working out scenes. my service to Him makes His weekends more relaxing and stress free. He has the right to do that too as a Dom, but again, where is the line? i don't want to leave Him because i love Him.

What have others done in a situation like this and how much control does someone need to take to be called a Dom?

(Some background: W/we live together but He travels for His job during the week. W/we only see each other on the weekends. W/we've been together for 5 months but W/we love each other. W/we feel like soul mates. W/we have great communication and i talk to Him about everything. i sent Him a message about this very problem last night and am eagerly awaiting His response.)


Sounds to me like you are experiencing a bit of deflation now that it has come to the point where you are actually living together and things cannot be put aside like they can on those "special" weekends when he was coming to visit you or you to visit him.

You have had some good responses on here already in the two short pages.  I would say that communication of your feelings is paramount BUT so is listening to what he is feeling and thinking about this. 
Like any other relationship, the fires of a D/s dynamic do need to be stoked but that doesn't always mean that it is time to pour on the gas.  Little things such as waiting for him to open doors...as Mistress Kay noted...can be an expression of dominance and submission and a reminder...to you both...that he leads and you follow.

Explore within yourself what your submission to him means.  Take the time to do it while he is gone.  Look at things critically but with an open mind.  If he is busy with work, then that is life.  If he stays busy with work with no more time for the relationship or he expects you to maintain your part while not living up to what he promised....that is something else entirely.

(in reply to subsnow)
Profile   Post #: 30
RE: When love gets in the way. - 5/22/2007 5:41:35 PM   
CrazyC


Posts: 949
Joined: 9/28/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: BOUNTYHUNTER

Love never gets in the way, hell what does love have to do with it girl?...bounty


I have no clue, and i hope i never do. It is just something she keeps getting told. I have heard others have gone through it also. And was just sharing how they as a couple delt with the situation.

_____________________________

"You never lose by loving. You always lose by holding back." Barbara De Angelis

(in reply to BOUNTYHUNTER)
Profile   Post #: 31
RE: When love gets in the way. - 5/22/2007 7:15:21 PM   
subsnow


Posts: 152
Joined: 11/26/2006
Status: offline
Thank you all for your wonderful responses. i think they are going to end up being more than helpful. i'm going to try and respond to everything that was brought up here.

Communication: Whenever something like this comes up my Dom and i end up talking about it. We've worked through every other "issue" that's come up so far. Communication is one of our strong points. We're going to figure something out here. i have already sent Him a message about it so the communication part of this problem is already under way.

Love and my relationship: my Dom and i are very happy with our relationship. We are compatible in so many ways. i really do believe that it's love. i haven't felt this way about anyone else that i've dated. When my Dom and i met, neither of us were looking for a long term relationship. Now we're in love and living together. Our love has grown exponentially. You were right though. i guess love really doesn't have anything to do with this. As for the sex, it hasn't changed since i first met Him. Everything is the same. The only thing that's changed is the scenes and the amount of control He has over me. The scenes are RELATED to sex but the sex is separate. It usually happens AFTER the scenes. The sex is still there and just as good but the scenes aren't. There really isn't anything else going on in the relationship to worry about. We couldn't be happier or more in love. If i had to, i would give up the SM but i would always feel like something was missing. It's a physical and mental need of mine. Pain is the way that i de-stress. It always has been.
 
Yes, i'm talking a lot about me: Someone said that i am talking a lot about me and that it sounds like i'm blaming my Dom. i didn't mean for it to sound like i was blaming Him at all. i don't blame him. There really isn't anyone at fault here. i guess i AM talking a lot about me but one of my needs and expectations aren't being met. There were certain things that my Dom and i agreed on when starting this relationship. Scenes were part of the "deal." Being controlled physically is important to me. It's a need of mine. i crave it. We started out doing a lot of scenes and i had the expectation that they would continue when i started this relationship. Now that they have stopped i am trying to figure out how to bring them back. If i can't, i will deal with it because i do love him but i want to try and bring them back first. In a way, i am serving Him by trying to bring the scenes back because i know that He enjoys them too. i think He forgets that.

Being new: We are both VERY new to this so we both have certain expectations and hesitations. This is the first D/s relationship that the both of us have been in.  i guess i thought that my Dom would lead me and tell me exactly what His expectations were. i expected Him to take my by the hand, "train me" to be His sub, then let me do what He expected on my own. The training part never really happened though. The thing is, He doesn't know what He expects. He's told me before that i'm too good to Him and that He is very happy with and proud of the things i do for Him. He is often surprised by how on top of things i am sometimes. He is perfectly content with the way things are. i make Him happy. i please Him. i miss the SM though. He would be happy if we did more scenes. He said he misses it too. i guess He just needs help in organizing and initiating them.

SM vs D/s: i know that there is a difference between SM and D/s.We do have a D/s relationship still but it's closer to vanilla if You put it on a scale in my opinion. i think that the SM is what i'm really missing.  i just don't FEEL dominated right now. That's what i miss. i don't call my Dom "Sir" and there aren't any positions that He wants me in. There are no speech restrictions or anything like that. i guess i like the idea of having something to remind me of my place as a submissive, something kind of physical, tangible. 

Your suggestions: The fun stuff really is getting pushed aside because life is getting in the way. my Dom is healthy and happy but He is tired mentally. He says that He thinks about the stuff He wants to do in terms of scenes and BDSM but He gets so turned on by it that He just wants to have sex with me. We have sex and then He doesn't feel like doing the scenes anymore because He is satisfied. i miss those scenes so badly though. He likes them too. i know that. He's told me that several times. i think it's true that He just doesn't want to put the effort into thinking about what to do with me. A lot of your suggestions might come in handy here. Sometimes i unintentionally present my ass to Him and He usually takes the opportunity to spank it. Maybe this will be the same if i leave the flogger and bondage gear out. He loves flogging me. Maybe i just need to remind Him. i think it's a great de-stresser.

Again, thank you all for your suggestions, advice, and opinions. i think we will work through this. You all really helped me figure out what i was feeling and what i was really missing. i think you're suggestions are going to be a big help.

(in reply to subsnow)
Profile   Post #: 32
RE: When love gets in the way. - 5/22/2007 7:19:06 PM   
subsnow


Posts: 152
Joined: 11/26/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

It seems to me that your frustrated that he is haveing you just do things to make his life easier which I agree is keeping up your end of the D/s relationship by beeing the sub and doing those things, but it also sounds one sided You are doing the sub like things that he wants but he isnt giveing you the Domly things that you want. I agree the sub should do as told and such but in return for those things they get what they need which is to be Dominated and in some cases that is physical Domination and it seem to me he isnt holding up his side of the relationship and that isnt right and isnt fair. You need to talk to him about this tell him you dont feel that you are beeing Dominated and that you are the only one giveing in this relationship. he may not realise you feel that way or see that this is what is going on.


Magik's slave

(in reply to MagiksSlave)
Profile   Post #: 33
RE: When love gets in the way. - 5/22/2007 9:22:55 PM   
MaamJay


Posts: 2101
Joined: 9/2/2005
Status: offline
In one sense, you almost want to get His permission to "top from the bottom"! By that, I mean He can give you permission to be the proactive one in terms of setting up scenes. There's no magic book that says that has to be entirely the Dom's role, although that's how it's often interpreted. It can take a lot of physical and mental effort to plan and execute a scene effectively, and He's obviously tired after working and travelling. He may be more than happy to delegate some of that effort to you. He seems to be opportunist in terms of swatting an ass that's presented to Him, so I guess you need His permission to create more opportunities. I would urge you to discuss this with Him first though, so you and He are both clear that He has given His permission for you to be so anticipatory. Sometimes there seems to be a double standard operating - a good anticipatory domestic slave who fetches His slippers before He realises His feet are cold is praised whereas woe betide one who fetches a flogger before He realises He'd like to flog you LOL! So make sure He's happy with this.

One way around it might be as follows:
By Weds night when you call each other, you have 2 possible scenes planned for the weekend to come. He listens to the plans (or reads your email or however you communicate) and makes His choice of what He thinks He would most enjoy doing. That gives you a couple of days to get everything together and ready (depending on what the scene is ... you might even want to get costume together etc). Then when He comes home make Him comfortable and relaxed on that first night, but maybe show Him what you have got ready so He can work out when He wants to use it. Then hopefully He will!

This scenario has some advantages - firstly, He is remaining in control by choosing what He prefers. That would be important to both of Y/you by the sound of it. Secondly, Him knowing about it from midweek may give chance for His creative juices to get flowing, so maybe He'll think up a little "surprise" to pop into the scene which will make it all the more fun. Thirdly, He can rest knowing that some of the burden of it has lifted from Him, freeing Him up to enjoy it when He chooses to do so. And lastly, He knows that He is meeting your needs (which I agree is important) because you have already indicated that such a scene will be good by having presented it as an option.

I would advise you to keep it simple the first few times, allow Y/you both to ease into it again, get used to the idea. Perhaps look for a new twist on scenes that were great for Y/you both in the past. Try to avoid a run of scenes that are all about you (what I would call "do me" scenes), make sure there are some options in there for scenes where He is the recipient of the attention. My sub side has often found with Master, that while the scene started with my doing things for Him, as long as He hasn't entirely zoned out such as from massage, He has then often picked up a flogger etc and been inspired to do things to me!

I would also urge you to discuss with Him whether some extra little rituals wouldn't be helpful to you. Whether it's a more formal address such as Sir or Master, some special greetings, clothing (or lack thereof or wearing collar, cuffs etc), or while He is home, asking permission for one or two things (not total micromanagement as that will wear Him out, but maybe asking permission to toilet OR to eat/drink OR to use the computer OR whatever!) ... these might help you feel He is being more overtly Dommly. Do you ask Him what He wants for various meals? Master started to feel that menu-planning off the top of His head every time was rather onerous, so now i am charged with the responsibility of giving Him 2 options, and He gets to choose. It works well!

Finally, re training, if He is new, He really isn't going to have a ready-made training manual, He's obviously "winging it". He's possibly run out of ideas by now or not sure where He can go from here. A Dom Mentor would be ideal, but that may be difficult to organise with His schedule. However, there are books and other info around on the net, which, while I would never follow verbatim because I am Me and the author is a different person, I can read and pick out useful ideas, things that resonate well with Me and My style. Perhaps you could get His permission to research for Him and provide Him with some interesting reading material to take with Him and read in those evenings He spends alone.

I do understand where you're coming from, there have been a few occasions when my sub side feels like she is just the drudge doing all the work without much play as reward and that's not what i signed up for! Having recently moved across country, W/we've not yet sorted out the shed sufficiently to use the play equipment W/we brought so i've not had a flogging in months and i am really hankering for one. But (a) i am sensitive to the effect of circumstances and ready to say OK that's how it is now but it won't last forever and (b) i am also ready to create other little opportunities for a bit of play and make the most of them for now. So I wish you all the best.

Maam Jay aka violet[A]

_____________________________

Life is a song ... and I love singing it! (By me!)

(in reply to subsnow)
Profile   Post #: 34
RE: When love gets in the way. - 5/22/2007 9:35:42 PM   
MagiksSlave


Posts: 2768
Joined: 9/11/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: subsnow

quote:

ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

It seems to me that your frustrated that he is haveing you just do things to make his life easier which I agree is keeping up your end of the D/s relationship by beeing the sub and doing those things, but it also sounds one sided You are doing the sub like things that he wants but he isnt giveing you the Domly things that you want. I agree the sub should do as told and such but in return for those things they get what they need which is to be Dominated and in some cases that is physical Domination and it seem to me he isnt holding up his side of the relationship and that isnt right and isnt fair. You need to talk to him about this tell him you dont feel that you are beeing Dominated and that you are the only one giveing in this relationship. he may not realise you feel that way or see that this is what is going on.


Magik's slave




??????????????????????????????/


Magik's slave

_____________________________

If you’re going through hell keep on moving
don't slow down
if you’re scared dont show it
you might get out
before the devil even knows your there.


-Rodney Atkins-



(in reply to subsnow)
Profile   Post #: 35
RE: When love gets in the way. - 5/22/2007 10:56:39 PM   
Masque66


Posts: 185
Joined: 5/4/2007
Status: offline
I can't really say anything that hasn't already been said.  So just let me reaffirm that communication is always essential.  The fact that you have the love will help more than you can believe.  Good luck to you.


(in reply to MagiksSlave)
Profile   Post #: 36
RE: When love gets in the way. - 5/23/2007 4:15:37 AM   
subsnow


Posts: 152
Joined: 11/26/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

quote:

ORIGINAL: subsnow

quote:

ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

It seems to me that your frustrated that he is haveing you just do things to make his life easier which I agree is keeping up your end of the D/s relationship by beeing the sub and doing those things, but it also sounds one sided You are doing the sub like things that he wants but he isnt giveing you the Domly things that you want. I agree the sub should do as told and such but in return for those things they get what they need which is to be Dominated and in some cases that is physical Domination and it seem to me he isnt holding up his side of the relationship and that isnt right and isnt fair. You need to talk to him about this tell him you dont feel that you are beeing Dominated and that you are the only one giveing in this relationship. he may not realise you feel that way or see that this is what is going on.


Magik's slave




??????????????????????????????/


Magik's slave

Sorry. i meant to say that you hit it on the head with this. It was exactly what i was trying to say but i couldn't find the words. i guess the message somehow got deleted.

(in reply to MagiksSlave)
Profile   Post #: 37
RE: When love gets in the way. - 5/23/2007 4:20:52 AM   
subsnow


Posts: 152
Joined: 11/26/2006
Status: offline
Thank You MaamJay. Great ideas. i shuddered at the thought of me topping from the bottom. i try VERY hard not to do that and i hate finding out that i have in some way.

After reading what You wrote, i realize how much i really do do for my Dom. The D/s is still there i guess. i ask permission to use the toilet and i help Him with meal planning and whatnot. Everyone is right about the play, the SM. That's what i miss. i will try using some of the suggestions that i've read about this.

Thank you everyone.

(in reply to subsnow)
Profile   Post #: 38
RE: When love gets in the way. - 5/23/2007 5:05:54 AM   
lateralist1


Posts: 886
Joined: 11/22/2006
Status: offline
Depends how much you are prepared to risk the relationship.
Sounds like you might be a risk taker.
So get cheeky first and if that doesn't work then make him angry.
Relationships need some conflict and tension.
Just not too much.
Giving you a good seeing to will do him good whether he is stressed or just complacent.

(in reply to MistressKay)
Profile   Post #: 39
RE: When love gets in the way. - 5/23/2007 1:27:04 PM   
MasterMataeo


Posts: 215
Joined: 1/24/2007
Status: offline
Find the balance, 
Both Myself and my slave , have had to find our balance when dealing with matters  of the heart,
We are due to be married and have 4 children ,
we find time to deal with similar things,
as i was reading trough  i saw the remark about the "love to much i cant beat her even though she needs it, so she can get it elsewhere',, that is if that wasn't the gist of that one,, I for myself set aside the emotion at that point ,, for as was also said" whats love got to do with it?"
as Per in My household  it is full of love and joy, we have our times, but alas nothing that cant be overcome with out myself nor my slave having a strait our heart to heart,, for sometimes it is needed,, for we are in the 21st century ,, and it's not like the old Roman days when "Slaves were slaves"

    Master Mataeo

~The Greatest Gift a Slave can Give is Themselves
~The Greatest Gift a Master/Mistress can Give is the Respect of the Gift they Have Been Given

(in reply to lateralist1)
Profile   Post #: 40
Page:   <<   < prev  1 [2] 3   next >   >>
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> General BDSM Discussion >> RE: When love gets in the way. Page: <<   < prev  1 [2] 3   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.094