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Why be a money slave? - 5/22/2007 11:17:26 PM   
Masque66


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Status: offline 		I'm just not seeing it.  Why would you willingly give your money to someone for so little in return?  I'm not talking about frauds but I'm assuming someone out there has this relationship.
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RE: Why be a money slave? - 5/22/2007 11:19:58 PM   
mistoferin


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RE: Why be a money slave? - 5/23/2007 1:38:05 AM   
HeavansKeeper


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Status: offline 		I have a friend who does PSO work, with a speciality in financial abuse.  From what I gather, it's the same attraction as wanting to be beaten or humiliated.  The act is "whatever hurts the thing you love."  Humiliation is only kinky to those with pride, and being beaten only turns on those who enjoy the lack of pain.  Those are the drives, in addition to pleasing Master, of course.  The people (almost exclusively guys) who want someone to spend their money recklessly want the suffering.  It hurts them to see spoiled brats using them.  It hurts them so badly it begins to hurt so good. 

Personally, I can't stand the idea.  I don't like to consider myself cheap, but I don't like truely wasting money and I abhore people who aren't thankful. 

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RE: Why be a money slave? - 5/23/2007 2:40:42 AM   
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quote:

I'm just not seeing it.  Why would you willingly give your money to someone for so little in return? 


How do you  know some one only - gets so little in return?



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RE: Why be a money slave? - 5/23/2007 7:12:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

Fools and their money are soon parted.
Old pro-dom saying "A slave and his money are soon parted"

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RE: Why be a money slave? - 5/23/2007 7:17:10 AM   
slaveish


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Status: offline 		It's a kink like any other. I didn't understand a lot of things until I tried it, and a few of the things I tried I still don't quite understand ... but oh well. I'm sure there are many perks to being a money slave, given the right dynamic.

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RE: Why be a money slave? - 5/23/2007 7:25:40 AM   
KatyLied


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Status: offline 		I would not. I work hard for my money and I'm not going to give it away.  It sounds like a dumb kink to me.  Maybe I haven't yet met someone masterful enough to dominate me that way.




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RE: Why be a money slave? - 5/23/2007 7:27:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Masque66

I'm just not seeing it.  Why would you willingly give your money to someone for so little in return?  I'm not talking about frauds but I'm assuming someone out there has this relationship.


I highly suspect that this serious money-slave business is just another form of self-destruction.

It seems to me that if a malesub/slave is willing to spend that kind of money, he could also:

a) Write himself a script which includes every F/m fantasy he ever failed to fulfill in his lifetime...

b) Hire a high-end "hooker-with-a-whip" to act out the script...

c) Fulfill all of his F/m fantasies...

d) Still have money left over when he's done. 

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RE: Why be a money slave? - 5/23/2007 7:32:37 AM   
darkinshadows


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For pain?
For humiliation?
- just because -
 
And you are assuming (wrongly) that the money slave gets nothing in return for something.
Scams work like that - but you are talking about a money slave.  Different kettle of pan fried ...
 
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RE: Why be a money slave? - 5/23/2007 7:38:55 AM   
earthycouple


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Status: offline 		I read the question two ways...

One: sub hands over money to his or her dominant because "dominant says so" (this being the part of the question that states "so little in return".

Two: sub contributes to his or her new household.

I can't imagine why the first would occur.  Why a submissive, male or female would simply give money to a dominant for any reason if the relationship is casual.  I see the profiles all the time though.  Both dominants wanting the cash and submissives offering it.  (truthfully I see more dominants wanting than subs offering but they do sometimes).

The second scenario makes sense to me.  A submissive who is becoming part of a new home contributes to said home.  How the "family" work that out is between them.  This makes sense to me.  There must be love and trust and mutal needs being met and a real reason to give said money.  I would NEVER ask for money from a casual partner.  I expect my live in to contribute. 

I believe in working out that contribution between us.  I don't have a cookie cutter plan in mind as to how this will happen.  Suppose I may have found someone who didn't have a huge income and is barely covering his own bills.  This person, for example has no spare cash to put in the "family vacation fund"   What I expect from that person is entirely different than someone who has few bills and greater income.  Someone with fewer commitments and more disposable income will contribute to the vacation fund and put money away in a fund for retirement etc.  I have never cared how much money one makes as long as when he moves into my home he manages his own bills and obligations and any further support to the family works out in whatever way it works out.

It's about doing what is BEST for everyone.  I have said it time and time again and I mean it.  I don't intentionally harm anyone not physically, mentally or financially.  To me that's the best guiding principle I have.

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RE: Why be a money slave? - 5/23/2007 7:43:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's like any service.  While it's unlikely I'll ever pay for a scene unless it's for an auction or something I really just want to be utterly selfish about, giving my money to my owner, being used for my money, is very fulfilling and objectifying for me. 

Why would a slave go to the grocery store at 2 am?  Why would a slave get put on the cross and have their back torn to ribbons when they hate pain?  Why would a slave leave their career? 

It's just another form of being useful and providing service IMO.

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RE: Why be a money slave? - 5/23/2007 7:54:50 AM   
earthycouple


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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross




It's just another form of being useful and providing service IMO.


Yes I suppose you are right.  I can't wrap my mind around it, myself...but I am sure there are things I do that others can't concieve. 

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RE: Why be a money slave? - 5/23/2007 8:37:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Masque66

I'm just not seeing it.  Why would you willingly give your money to someone for so little in return?  I'm not talking about frauds but I'm assuming someone out there has this relationship.


not everyone puts the same value on money as everyone else.  this slave thanks the Great Architecht every day that we human beings are so incredibly diverse and unique that we don't all feel the same way about anything!!!  How boring that would be.
 
depending on your upbringing, mental wiring and experience, giving $$$ away could be either a very positive, uplifting, even euphoric experience or a negative, loathsome experience---or somewhere in between.  whether or not you get something tangible or a feeling(+ or -) in return is another matter, altogether, and equally as subjective.
 
it is indeed, someone's kink to give $$$ away...would you accept it if they offered it to you on the street, or would you complain they were non-consensually dragging you into their kink and refuse?

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RE: Why be a money slave? - 5/23/2007 8:45:11 AM   
MasterFireMaam


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Status: offline 		For some people, this is a fetish. I don't get scat play...but I still recognize that there are people out there who do.

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RE: Why be a money slave? - 5/23/2007 8:48:24 AM   
MistressDarling


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Status: offline 		Some men feel that it is the ultimate form of humiliation, to have a girl use them just for their money.

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RE: Why be a money slave? - 5/24/2007 6:15:36 PM   
Masque66


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Status: offline 		Well, I didn't actually mean in the case of an already in play m/s scenario, in which the slave's money is considered already owned by their master/mistress.  But I've seen advertisements seeking 'money slave' and really nothign else placed there.  The impression I get is that they're just seeking someone to give them cash.  I can see the kink to it (distantly).  But I sincerely hope if I ever have that kind of money to waste I can think of something better to do with it than that.

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RE: Why be a money slave? - 5/24/2007 8:13:29 PM   
ready4srvce4all


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Status: offline 		I don't understand it, but I'm sure it fits some peoples needs.  What bothers me is when I was in an AOL chatroom, the room creator "booted" me because I was simply trying to understand why the male subs in there were giving their money away.  Apparently the money Dommes were afraid I'd kill the golden goose.  So right there, I had to wonder, why are they so bold to ask for cash, but don't have the guts to have a legit discussion about it?  To each their own, but all in all, my time in BDSM forums has always been made annoying by the overt contact by money Dommes.  If I could meet every person who mails their money off, I'd try and convince them to reconsider, and find a better outlet for what this need is giving them.   Okay, so I guess I am trying to kill the golden goose.

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RE: Why be a money slave? - 5/24/2007 8:14:57 PM   
earthycouple


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ORIGINAL: ready4srvce4all

I don't understand it, but I'm sure it fits some peoples needs.  What bothers me is when I was in an AOL chatroom, the room creator "booted" me because I was simply trying to understand why the male subs in there were giving their money away.  Apparently the money Dommes were afraid I'd kill the golden goose.  So right there, I had to wonder, why are they so bold to ask for cash, but don't have the guts to have a legit discussion about it?  To each their own, but all in all, my time in BDSM forums has always been made annoying by the overt contact by money Dommes.  If I could meet every person who mails their money off, I'd try and convince them to reconsider, and find a better outlet for what this need is giving them.   Okay, so I guess I am trying to kill the golden goose.


drat...does that mean you won't give me any more golden eggs? *S*

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RE: Why be a money slave? - 5/24/2007 8:16:36 PM   
ready4srvce4all


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Status: offline 		You're the real deal, though.  Golden eggs and Godiva for life Mistress.

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RE: Why be a money slave? - 5/24/2007 8:25:53 PM   
Najakcharmer


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Status: offline 		It's a kink like any other kink.  I've been approached a number of times by money slaves who want me to "blackmail" them or to demand money from them in a selfish, bitchy way.   And my profile says explicitly that I'm only here looking for friends and socializing.  It's not like I'm soliciting it, but like any other fetish, it's something that a lot of guys are out there soliciting women to do it because they get off on it.

I'm not into this scene, but it's not my business to say what other consenting adults can or can't do together.

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