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MsCece2u -> RE: Revoking your subs collar (5/25/2007 7:26:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MstrssPassion

The collar is given only one time & it is only taken away one time.

But with me, giving out a collar isn't like sharing mint candy. The significance of this item forces me to be very careful in who I would select to be mine.



I couldn't have stated it any better myself.  The collar isn't a toy nor should it ever be used as a way to modify behavior.  I have a girl that I have had under consideration for over a year and she has not recieved a collar as of yet because I happen to agree that it is significant step in our relationship.  I have seen to many Dominants that will give a collar and snatch it back  and it does something mentally to the submissive




meticulousgirl -> RE: Revoking your subs collar (5/29/2007 11:28:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: slavejali

I know you're probably gonna get a lot of " don't ever do thats" probably. In my perspective, if she disobeys you, she is not fit to wear the symbol that you gave her to wear of her obedience to you. Like everyone in the world could go around wearing collars but what do they actually mean if there isnt some meaningful action behind it. Taking her collar of her will most likely be a traumatic experience for her, so if you did it you would have to at the same time offer a realistic working plan of how she could get it back.

There is a theory of belief that  'the punishment and rewards" system does not work in the long run to inspire and guide action, that our motivations for the things we do need to come from someplace else inside us. So I guess thats something to think about too.

It's really gonna come down to your relationship with her, how solid is it?


I have to agree with Mistress Passion whole heartedly, i'm choosing not to say anymore than that as it is a matter of how your "relationship" is set up but I will say that if mine were ripped away from me, i would see it as the relationship ending which only leads to self distruction on your sub or slaves end more than likely as a collar is very sacrificial and symbolic to subs and slaves both.




BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: Revoking your subs collar (5/29/2007 11:41:02 AM)

IF we ever take back a collar it history no running back begging,We collar for a lifetime,so it takes a serious breech of trust for us to take such a serious step.WE have had subs here trying to earn a collar for long periods and still working toward that goal.,,so you see we take the locking of a collar around a pretty neck almost a sacred thing..bounty




MissHarlet -> RE: Revoking your subs collar (5/29/2007 11:46:22 AM)

There is a big difference in not allowing one to wear your collar for a time ... to get them to refocus and removing one.

One makes a point and the other is a statement  of finality  to me ...




MistressSassy66 -> RE: Revoking your subs collar (5/29/2007 1:30:46 PM)

For this Domme taking away your collar means you've been let go.
That is strictly My feeling...AND any submissive that loses his collar,has
done something really,really bad.I mean really bad.




fetishnoob -> RE: Revoking your subs collar (5/29/2007 2:01:09 PM)

i agree with you CL the collar isn't simply physical, it's a symbolic representation of the relationship, so i don't see how one could revoke a slaves collar and still continue the relationship




TopinPa -> RE: Revoking your subs collar (5/29/2007 3:03:09 PM)

I personally would never threaten my sub/slave with taking her collar back. I don't know what your sub did and it's just too hard to speculate about whatever the situation was or how I would deal with it.
Before I collar a sub/slave there would be an understanding that I don't make threats. Everyone makes mistakes and does dumb shit; for disobeying me there would be punishment. If something was done bad enough to take a collar back there would be no threats about it.




ImpGrrl -> RE: Revoking your subs collar (5/31/2007 8:26:19 PM)

It is a privilege to wear his collar - not my right.  If my behavior does not show that I am worthy of the collar...then he has every right to remove it.

It does not signal the end of our relationship.  However, I'd have to do something pretty terrible - or a whole series of less terrible bad things - for that to happen.




MasterBRD -> RE: Revoking your subs collar (6/5/2007 2:10:42 PM)

Simple disobedience should never be used as a reason to take a sub/slaves collar. Repeated infractions after the issue has been addressed and proper disciplinary actions have been taken may give you reason to consider it, but it should not be taken lightly.
As my girls will tell you...we take the collar more seriously than any other symbol of our commitments to each other.




eveningtwilight -> RE: Revoking your subs collar (6/5/2007 2:26:12 PM)

I have to say, ouch.  :(  Take away her collar for disobeying?  I would want to cry in anger and hopelessness!

Sometimes I like to upset him, just so I can be punished and relish in his amusements. Sometimes it is a playful game that makes me feel closer to him...but he knows it too.

Different for everyone in every situation, but I believed the collar to be equal to a wedding ring...very important. What is its value to you? To her? What did she have to go through to get the collar? Is all that work/time worth throwing away over one or two, or even 100 disgretions?? Depends on the offense I suppose...but big ouch in my book. Say "bye-bye sub! Find someone else who will commit to you more!"







RaynaSub -> RE: Revoking your subs collar (6/5/2007 3:02:05 PM)

I agree with most here, you can take your subs collar away.
But that should be a permanent situation, not something you do over
and over again.
I don't think taking a collar, should be used as a form of punishment.




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