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MHOO314 -> RE: Reality Check (5/22/2005 10:08:25 PM)
and a Suthern amen to this thread, when the latex hits the road, the skid marks are pretty revealing---I too am hmm disconcerted at times at what the community attracts but I keep searching

LadyAngelika -> RE: Reality Check (5/22/2005 10:56:27 PM)
I'll be the first to admit I'm not a hard core BDSMer. My life is very intense as are my relationships. But in terms of BDSM, I'm not into all the rituals and guidelines. I have a very indie approach to it all. I don't collar my subs, I don't do 24/7, I don't really dress up in fetishwear other then an unusually large collection of black clothes & high heel shoes. I am however incredibly dominant and sadistic and at times masochistic. But I was like that before I discovered any BDSM community and I would continue to be without this community. If someone wants to say I’m not a true Domme, that is their prerogative. It really is of no importance to me what is other people’s perception of how I live my life. I tend to live and let live and appreciate it when others can offer me and others the same courtesy. That said, even though I do not see myself reflected in the majority of the people here, I would say that I benefit largely from my interaction with most. For me, this is not only a forum about BDSM, or as I prefer to call it, WIITWD. It is a forum about human dynamics and interactions. It is not the only forum that I participate to either. I have varied and well rounded interests. quote: To make the public statement that BDSM lifestyle mythology held online precludes participation by the vast majority of our community. First of all, I would guess that a great deal of people who do WIITWD are not interested in discussing it in an online forum. I have a huge interest in film. Funny, I don’t see the whole film community on the message board that I participate on. And on the professional online community, I am one of the few Montrealers in my profession who participate. Why? Because different methods and mediums appeal to different people. If people do not like who we are or how we operate, they have to choice not to type in this URL and if they really want an online community, well Yahoo & MSN groups give free webspace to do such a thing. Let them start their own little exclusive space where they can set the bar higher. Frankly, I think the lot of us would do just fine without your judgment. - LA

LadyAngelika -> RE: Reality Check (5/22/2005 10:58:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Estring quote: I think that would attract a greater portion of the silent BDSM majority of our community and ease the impact derived of the gulf of difference between BDSM reality and online collective pretending. The silent majority are silent because they are too busy living bdsm to worry about what people do online. The internet itself is very conducive to dishonesty and fakery. We all know that. You may as well try to change the weather. I'd like to add that Estring makes an very important point and that I'm happy he has taken the time to come and visit and put in his 2¢ because he is one of the people I love to read :) - LA

LadyAngelika -> RE: Reality Check (5/22/2005 10:59:49 PM)
quote: Don't get sucked in, I'm guessing this is his fourth nickname, and has to use his fake id as backup....... Yeah. I have a feeling one of the others was Perverta, possibly BitchQueen... oh the list of trolls is long! quote: ORIGINAL: realist quote: I doubt you've viewed most of the profiles. I just searched the words "money" and "financial" in ads. Here are the results, with quips from your's truly in parentheses. Some ads are not fully quoted, but the points are made clearly enough. It’s getting sloppy because it’s answering to posts made to its other aliases with the wrong nick. Little tip: Consistency is an important part of a scam sugar ;) We aren’t the idiots you think we are. quote: ORIGINAL: OceanSlave Realist, as I'm sure you know (and as kc692 has made achingly obvious), these forums are populated by exceedingly bitter individuals. Wow. But you redeem yourself here by showing you can have a dialogue with yourself online! Impressive. - LA

proudsub -> RE: Reality Check (5/22/2005 11:04:15 PM)
quote: I want the internet to be a useful resource instead of fantasyland and money seeking mercnbeth: Can we base your sincerity on the assets and income you posted on your profile? Funny his net worth is no more than his annual income.[:o]

proudsub -> RE: Reality Check (5/22/2005 11:05:31 PM)
quote: We're bringing a camera. There will be pictures of us and anyone else who allows their picture to be taken. Hoping to get at least one big CM group pic. Stay tuned! Can't wait to hear all about it and see the pics.[:)]

DublinSwitch -> RE: Reality Check (5/23/2005 4:49:12 AM)
What a great rant! Truely wonderful! Keep it up Realist - for my money one of the best thought out , and well argued posts I have seen! I agreed with so much of it (not necessarily all, but even your not perfect Realist lol) and also agreed with the person that noted the vitriol that this type of post attracts from a certain clique of people on here (often the same 'caring' ones that drone on in 'Oprah' psychobabble about nonsensical 'our community', 'The lifestyle', 'third person speech' muck and drivel). Cheers DublinSwitch

realist -> RE: Reality Check (5/23/2005 8:23:59 AM)
quote: Realist, as I'm sure you know (and as kc692 has made achingly obvious), these forums are populated by exceedingly bitter individuals. One important thing I forgot to add, but knew was going to emerge, is the online flame factor. Look how many people have stated that I equate sex with BDSM. Post a quote of mine that clearly (not via a wished for far-reaching interpretation) indicates I equate sex with BDSM. In case this has escaped the online mythology adherents, Masochism and Sadism are forms of sexual enjoyment. The definition of them includes the factor of sensual and/or sexual enjoyment from either inflicting or receiving pain. But the online mythic community must go much much further than that, they must obtain a lofty elusive "purity" and dramatically change these definitions so that sexuality is completely removed from them. Otherwise, it is perceived within the online mythology as shallow or impure, or more commonly stated, as not "for real". The online mythology then has lost any commonality with visceral experiential aspects the majority of BDSMers seek and desire, and once that touch of realism is lost, proudly touted projected excess cures any perceived lack of intensity. Here we see why the extremes emerge, 24/7, live in slavery, income sacrifice. When will snuffing arise as the ultimate form of hardcore player purity? I contend that these are poor influences and unwise to follow, as well as dangerous, and surely quite disappointing to the participants. This is seen easily in how many onliners are wary of those who get close to a taste of purportedly real BDSM and run away at the last second. While being labelled as not "for real", they, in fact, may be the ones sensing what is real and what is not, after all. Those flaming me for defying common online mythology have said I have no happy sexlife, I equate sex with BDSM, I have multiple nicknames in use, I abandoned past nicknames to hide from my own misdeeds, and that I am frustrated, bitter, and even angry. That's quit a litany of insult. That's quite a terse defense of pretended online content. Not a one of these people would dare deliver such insult in the face to face setting, at a munch, in my living room, anywhere where real people interact in real world ways and manners matter and have social consequences. But this is the internet and you may largely behave any way you want to. It's quasi-lawless, and I well knew this before I posted in the first place. Those who defend pretending will avoid seeing how their actions impact those in the real world, the vast majority of BDSMers who do not post here or use the Collarme website. Those who think critically, outside the online paradigm of mythological content and conformity, will hail my efforts as a fresh breeze washing across a sea of bullshit that's simply gone too far (online, that is) and too far away from BDSM reality. Would anyone care to post a scientific definiton of BDSM? In case you're not aware of it, our sexuality is undergoing a global debate right now as we speak, or type as the case is. BDSM is transforming from a perceived pathology into an accepted legitimate sexual variant. A form of sexuality. It is increasingly no longer seen as criminal or a mental illness, though the World Health Organization is holding out against an increasing number of nations that are redeeming and revising their definitions and attitudes and laws concerning BDSM. This follows on the heels of the global debate on homosexuality. We BDSMers are riding their bandwagon, following their example (offline, that is), benefitting from their struggle. I say we could do better than that, and we should. The internet is powerfully effecting these debates, which range over several major and countless minor cultures. The internet is a grand-scale human meeting place, even if truncated and virtual. What emerges powerfully here is that the online BDSM community, with all it's absurd extreme and over the top mythology, and it's seedy immoral money seeking, and the ubiquitous flame warriors defending the faith so to speak, what emerges is that the world is watching, even if not interacting visibly. You, more than offline BDSMers are the ambassadors of our sexuality and your extremes, myths, and personal attacks make BDSM appear as if some degree of pathology, immorality, and even illegality, in fact comprise it to some degree. You're holding the rest of us back in the real world, in addition to making us feel unwelcome online where you run amok in your extreme mythology. You are damned right I rail against those effects. Proudly so. You are also damned right I want, and will work, to gather people who do not go to mythic absurd extremes and who do not immorally seek to exploit their fellow kinksters, and who do not pose as belligerent experts in the BDSM fields, and who do not flame dissenting voices in what is supposed to be a free community. One person asked what can be done to remedy the problems I have outlayed in this thread. I am only too happy to attempt an answer. 1) Eliminate any ad asking for money, gifts, or services of value. Stop accepting the myth that exploitation is BDSM. Write these people and tell them you do not accept their actions as a part of our community. 2) Eliminate the quasi-prostitutional pro-Domme ads. Stop accepting the myth that $250 an hour is a "valuable service" or a valid part of the greater community. It's exploitation and it's damned bad press for BDSM in general. 3) Censor ads with extreme unrealistic and/or exploitative content. (ironically, this is done in regards to pictures, but not to absurdity, immorality, or illegality) (BTW, conning, scamming, etc IS illegal, and it is condoned here) 4) Encourage real world discussion where non-extreme-posing "lesser players" are welcomed, creating a welcoming atmosphere and an accepting, tolerant gathering space for BDSMers. Expose the "experts" as online posing frauds who can only behave that way online. 5) Censor flame posts. Ban flamers. Ban people for any statement that would not be welcome in your living room or your local munch, just like you do in real life. 6) Post crucial educational, scientific, and political information about BDSM and all forms of legitimate alternative sexualty and expose and exclude online mythology from that. Here's an example, in the latter regard: http://www.revisef65.org/ 7) Make a formal statement that financial domination is exploitation and not a valid fetish and condemn it on moral grounds. Equate it with overpriced prostitution. Eliminate it or separate it from the BDSM community, not unlike how criminal scams are separated from legitimate investing opportunities. 8) Create a BDSM real-life forum section, symbolically dividing the community, for real world BDSMers. No absurd extremes, just simpler folk who prefer this form of sexuality, just like those who attend munches. Let this section grow and rival the online mythological larger, currently over-represented, group. Create a cadre of voices saying they enjoy real life BDSM and not online pretending, and all that comes with that. 9) Encourage and activate people who do not pose online in accordance with accepted extremist mythology. You.....you who are reading this. Have you enjoyed this discussion? Has it given you hope? Has it clarified what's bullshit and what ain't? If so, write me a note and say so. Start a thread of your own, say your piece. Do NOT just sit there and benignly, silently allow what you know is just online posery to go on and on and get stupider and more extreme and less real, while the world debates what the BDSM community is and whether what we do is immoral, illegal, a pathology, or a variant of acceptible human sexuality. Stand up, make some noise, get flamed.....and after you do that, you know what happens? You value your real world life even more than you did before you waded into the online maelstrom of defying the collectively pretended status quo. Make a place for you, and for us realists. Don't just shut up. Don't be maginalized. You are the majority. Represent that online, and contrast the lunacy of the ads this place is bombarded by. Sanity, honesty, realism, will stand out amongst the pretended content the internet allows far too much of. That's....just for starters. [:D]

kc692 -> RE: Reality Check (5/23/2005 8:53:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MsSilvie quote: ORIGINAL: kc692 quote: ORIGINAL: realist Thanks to all for your responses. I had a great weekend and hope you all did too. It was claimed I'm new here. No, this is my third nickname. I've been aware of this site for years. Though, I have not participated in some time. Why your third nickname ? Is it because: 1) You were labeled as a troublemaker under the other names, and wished to try a fresh start? 2) You know longer believe some of your posts, so want to start under a new name, so noone will see you contradicting yoursef anywhere on the posts? You can only think of two possible reasons?? So it couldn't be maybe because he's tired of the hypocrisy and narrow mindedness of online bdsm communities? I don't see where hypocrisy and narrow mindedness makes him change his handles..do you? quote: quote: It was claimed I'm bitter or upset, no I'm not. I'm delivering editorial comment for good reason. It was said I'm frustrated, no I'm not. I'm a very happy person with a great family life, lovelife, and sexlife. (listed in order of importance) It was asked, if this site doesn't have what I want, why am I here? To make the public statement that BDSM lifestyle mythology held online precludes participation by the vast majority of our community. If I might cut and paste some of your profile: quote: I offer friendship and the possibility of play if I and someone else are compatible and mutually interested. That doesn't sound like your lovelife, and sexlife (in that order) must be very great, or at the very least you seek something else to complete it, since according to you the lifestyle is all about sex. It also doesn't sound like you put up that profile with the predetermined notion of making a public statement of BDSM. quote: So, you are claiming that if your lovelife and sexlife is fine, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever that you would ever seek friendship or play partners outside of that? Really? And what about profiles that indicate a need for discretion and "no strings"? Are those people getting everything they need from their primary relationship? Nope, just not making a judgement about the ones that do, and not saying they are not well grounded individuals.. quote: Noone told me the lifestyle was all about sex and only sex , has someone told you that? I have a male slave applicant that served two lesbian dommes for over a year, and got no sex in return. He provided services for them, and truly enjoyed it, and never once had sex with them. So, he was available 24/7, and no sex. And he has offered the same to me.. Explain that, please... quote: And that idealized relationship lasted a whole year! 24/7 service, no sex, he truly enjoyed it, the dommes got all they wanted..... and it lasted a year. 12 months. Why such a short time, since it sounds like everyone's fantasies were being met? And no situation changes, and noone ever leave a relationship because of change, so if for example you are in love and get married, that itself will never change with that person?? No divorce possible if you ever truly cared? A vanilla analogy, but I think it makes my point... quote: I had a sub applicant that for a myriad of reasons I did not feel would be compatible with me. He was being considered for FEMA Director for an area near here, and full time EMT. He was also a dedicated toilet slave, and stated that unless there was illness, all waste products coming from the body were sterile, and safe. Now, not my cup of tea, so I'm glad we discussed that. I also feel like he know what he was talking about. Apparently it is some folks' cup of tea though, so I don't see how that is unreasonable to discuss. quote: This EMT has never heard of fecal coliform? Never heard of peritonitis? Never heard of any kind of bacteria living in the human digestive tract? And you think he knew what he was talking about? Think about it. I concede that point about safety, but again, does not change my reason for saying it is a point to discuss in advance, because some ARE into that..... quote: quote: There is no greater case of mental pretending than "cybersex". It's not sex, it's typing about sex. A typed description of a car is not a car. A typed description of sex is not sex. I don't think anyone disagrees with you on this, however, some folks like the pretending and/or cybersex. Who are you to judge? quote: You state no one disagrees, yet you get mad and say "who are you to judge". People like discussing driving cars and sex and bdsm. Discussing is a completely different level of activity than actually doing. THAT seems to be forgotten out there in cyberland. I am not mad at all, and I don't see how you got I was from that statement, And, the only ones that forget it's different may be the ones participating in cybersex...so if they are discussing driving cars, sex, bdsm, or participating in cybersex, again who am I or you to judge? quote: quote: The thing I don't like about all that is, more than the fact it's just pretended bullshit, more than anything else, is that it drives away regular, well grounded reasonable people who are good parents to their kids, who haveI good jobs, who have rich and rewarding lives, who make good friends, who don't stoop to argue trivia, Here we go with those rash sweeping generalizations that start to put peoples' intelligence to question when they utter them..I have 2 grown children with good jobs( I assume you think they are good if the jobs pay well, so I still think they qualify)and they have wonderful spouses. My spouse and I have been together for 16 years, we have 3 grandchildren, I own my own business, and have a career that in my first year, won a professional award at being the best in my field in an area with 70,000 plus people. I have few good friends, because I use that term sparingly, however I have numerous good aquaintances. quote: And are we to assume that you are looking for a sub is a sign that your lovelife, and sexlife (in that order) must not be very great??? HMMMMM? . I don't think that I was the one that said my lovelife and sexlife was great...although on a side note I think it is. I take offense at his condescension and assumption that there are no well grounded individuals here... Since you do not know my family or family health situations, and the fact that my husband is aware of the search for those very reasons that I do not feel compelled or obligated to share with you, Ms Silvie, it is not accurate for you to make assumptions. quote: I gotta admit, I'm really curious why you change names, genders, and roles when you want to on profiles....so,,, are you truly a realist???? quote: Where did you get THAT information from? Please cite your sources as to how you know what the OP does and doesn't do as far as how he has listed himself in the profiles he uses? I got that information from HIM....the OP said he was on his third nickname, and when ginger21 answered another supposed poster earlier in the thread, the OP replied to it, as it was his, saying she didn't know how long he had been on, and had only looked at profiles for a day, even though that porfile showed joining the 22nd. When I clicked on that profile, that he responded to as his,,,it says female......check for yourself....apparently you concentrated on my post, and didn't look at other ones as completely as mine... Again, I am all for everyone agreeing in advance to agree to agree or to agree to disagree.. and I am all for speaking your mind...but to have a rant and not at least propose a solution oneself is nothing more than whining...I am all for change, I just would like to know what the OP proposes to do about it, instead of just griping... I will also say this,,,the OP presents himself as a big boy, why isn't he responding to this as you are???

EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Reality Check (5/23/2005 8:56:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: realist In case this has escaped the online mythology adherents, Masochism and Sadism are forms of sexual enjoyment. The definition of them includes the factor of sensual and/or sexual enjoyment from either inflicting or receiving pain. But the online mythic community must go much much further than that, they must obtain a lofty elusive "purity" and dramatically change these definitions so that sexuality is completely removed from them. Otherwise, it is perceived within the online mythology as shallow or impure, or more commonly stated, as not "for real". Ignoring the threat of edging ever closer to being type-cast as a "definition slammer" I have to say that sadism and masochist is not necessarily sexual for everyone all the time. I agree that the ones screaming "bdsm is not about sex!" tend to overstate their case. A lot of bdsm is about sex, sex certainly occurs in bdsm and since what we do is just another way of living life, and MOST people certainly enjoy having sex in their lives, obviously bdsm tends to involve sex. But- it's not necessary for it to do so and it's not necessarily "what it's about." quote: Those who think critically, outside the online paradigm of mythological content and conformity, will hail my efforts as a fresh breeze washing across a sea of bullshit that's simply gone too far (online, that is) and too far away from BDSM reality. That's a very convenient way of always being right, isn't it? The smart ones will understand the beauty of it and if you don't see it then you just aren't smart enough. Any time someone sets up an equation like that, making them impermeable to any possible criticism, it really makes you question the actual validity of what they state. quote: Would anyone care to post a scientific definiton of BDSM? Not that it's scientific, but I use bdsm as bondage, discipline, sadism and masochism, a core section of the types of kinky activities that people engage in and often used as a generalized term for "what it is that we do." quote: 1) Eliminate any ad asking for money, gifts, or services of value. Stop accepting the myth that exploitation is BDSM. Write these people and tell them you do not accept their actions as a part of our community. Well- wouldn't all dominants and submissives have to stop posting an ad, because they want and have "services of value?" quote: 2) Eliminate the quasi-prostitutional pro-Domme ads. Stop accepting the myth that $250 an hour is a "valuable service" or a valid part of the greater community. It's exploitation and it's damned bad press for BDSM in general. Personally, I'm not only fine with pro-domination, I'm more than fine with outright prostition. Why do you think that pro-domming is somehow not a valuable service? Obviously the people working for their money and spending it feel it's a worthwhile service for them. If there wasn't a demand for services, they wouldn't be in business. While it might be "bad press" one has to ask whether it's bad press because it's a bad activity, or because puritanial morals go against what adults choose to do with their own money just because it's about sex and sexuality? Is it the action that's wrong, or the high moralistic reaction? quote: 3) Censor ads with extreme unrealistic and/or exploitative content. (ironically, this is done in regards to pictures, but not to absurdity, immorality, or illegality) (BTW, conning, scamming, etc IS illegal, and it is condoned here) What do you consider unrealistic and exploitative content? We'd have to agree on this before we'd censor it. quote: 4) Encourage real world discussion where non-extreme-posing "lesser players" are welcomed, creating a welcoming atmosphere and an accepting, tolerant gathering space for BDSMers. Expose the "experts" as online posing frauds who can only behave that way online. I've no interest in witch hunts and exposing people, they expose themselves inevitably to anyone who really has an interest. I agree with creating a welcome and accepting place to talk, but I find it amusing you speak of tolerance when so much of this email is intolerant. quote: 5) Censor flame posts. Ban flamers. Ban people for any statement that would not be welcome in your living room or your local munch, just like you do in real life. Well, whose living room? Just because a statement isn't "welcome" doesn't mean it's not a good thing to say. I was banned from a submissives only list because I called myself a whore and the list owner said that no talking that was not allowed in her living room would be allowed on her list. I respected her rights to choose what and who she wanted on her list, but I certainly don't think that calling myself a whore is anything wrong or should be banned in public forums. quote: 6) Post crucial educational, scientific, and political information about BDSM and all forms of legitimate alternative sexualty and expose and exclude online mythology from that. Here's an example, in the latter regard: http://www.revisef65.org/ We actually already have a forum for that here. quote: 7) Make a formal statement that financial domination is exploitation and not a valid fetish and condemn it on moral grounds. Equate it with overpriced prostitution. Eliminate it or separate it from the BDSM community, not unlike how criminal scams are separated from legitimate investing opportunities. I do consider it a valid fetish, not always exploitative and I've nothing against prostitution. You know, a lot of feminists consider stripping exploiting females, no matter why the female is doing it or how they feel about it. I personally think they are wrong. quote: 8) Create a BDSM real-life forum section, symbolically dividing the community, for real world BDSMers. No absurd extremes, just simpler folk who prefer this form of sexuality, just like those who attend munches. Let this section grow and rival the online mythological larger, currently over-represented, group. Create a cadre of voices saying they enjoy real life BDSM and not online pretending, and all that comes with that. And out goes the welcoming tolerant community you exposited before... quote: 9) Encourage and activate people who do not pose online in accordance with accepted extremist mythology. You.....you who are reading this. Have you enjoyed this discussion? Has it given you hope? Has it clarified what's bullshit and what ain't? If so, write me a note and say so. Start a thread of your own, say your piece. Do NOT just sit there and benignly, silently allow what you know is just online posery to go on and on and get stupider and more extreme and less real, while the world debates what the BDSM community is and whether what we do is immoral, illegal, a pathology, or a variant of acceptible human sexuality. Stand up, make some noise, get flamed.....and after you do that, you know what happens? You value your real world life even more than you did before you waded into the online maelstrom of defying the collectively pretended status quo. Make a place for you, and for us realists. Don't just shut up. Don't be maginalized. You are the majority. Represent that online, and contrast the lunacy of the ads this place is bombarded by. Sanity, honesty, realism, will stand out amongst the pretended content the internet allows far too much of. That's....just for starters. [:D] You fail to realize that all of that stuff you rail against is REAL people doing what they want to do. If there is so much of it, then that means there are so many people who WANT to be doing it. If you don't like it that's perfectly fine, but I think your "answers" are based on a fairly skewed perspective of freedom and consensuality and are far more akin to burning witches at the stake for religious purity rather than actually seeking a better future as a community.

kc692 -> RE: Reality Check (5/23/2005 8:56:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika quote: Don't get sucked in, I'm guessing this is his fourth nickname, and has to use his fake id as backup....... Yeah. I have a feeling one of the others was Perverta, possibly BitchQueen... oh the list of trolls is long! quote: ORIGINAL: realist quote: I doubt you've viewed most of the profiles. I just searched the words "money" and "financial" in ads. Here are the results, with quips from your's truly in parentheses. Some ads are not fully quoted, but the points are made clearly enough. It’s getting sloppy because it’s answering to posts made to its other aliases with the wrong nick. Little tip: Consistency is an important part of a scam sugar ;) We aren’t the idiots you think we are. quote: ORIGINAL: OceanSlave Realist, as I'm sure you know (and as kc692 has made achingly obvious), these forums are populated by exceedingly bitter individuals. Wow. But you redeem yourself here by showing you can have a dialogue with yourself online! Impressive. - LA THANK YOU FOR CATCHING IT ALSO,,,LMAO

AAkasha -> RE: Reality Check (5/23/2005 9:28:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OceanSlave Realist -- that was so hilarious, and sadly true. SweetDommes, he said that was just the number of names that had "money" or "financial" in them... There are hundreds more profiles (scams?) that insist on sending money, even though it's not in the name. Just to bring everyone up to speed: Oceanslave = LifeLongChastity (who was caught red-handed replying to his own post with the wrong id when trying to strip up crap) = RealTimePrincess (the acct. he made to pretend to be female to solicit cash from men online to try to prove a point) and now probably = Realist. The guy needs to keep creating new profiles to talk to himself. That's very sad. He also loves to post all night long on Friday and Saturday nights that everyone has no life, which is hilarious. We determined in an earlier thread he's got serious inferiority issues (small penis syndrome probably) and is incredibly bitter because no matter how much he inflates his salary on his profiles, he still can't get a date. Feel sorry for him. Akasha

ginger21 -> RE: Reality Check (5/23/2005 9:29:14 AM)
KC692!!! What did I tell you last night? Shoo! Shoo! Git away from dis thread! I says git!

ginger21 -> RE: Reality Check (5/23/2005 9:33:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha quote: ORIGINAL: OceanSlave Realist -- that was so hilarious, and sadly true. SweetDommes, he said that was just the number of names that had "money" or "financial" in them... There are hundreds more profiles (scams?) that insist on sending money, even though it's not in the name. Just to bring everyone up to speed: Oceanslave = LifeLongChastity (who was caught red-handed replying to his own post with the wrong id when trying to strip up crap) = RealTimePrincess (the acct. he made to pretend to be female to solicit cash from men online to try to prove a point) and now probably = Realist. The guy needs to keep creating new profiles to talk to himself. That's very sad. He also loves to post all night long on Friday and Saturday nights that everyone has no life, which is hilarious. We determined in an earlier thread he's got serious inferiority issues (small penis syndrome probably) and is incredibly bitter because no matter how much he inflates his salary on his profiles, he still can't get a date. Feel sorry for him. Akasha One word: BURN. I think we're all spending too much time on this guy. The changes he proposes will never EVER happen. If he hates the online BDSM community so, why won't he exclude himself from it and create that utopian real life whatever the hell he was talking about? Realist, you've got a lot of work to do, saving us lost BDSM souls. Stop trolling and GET ON IT! *EDIT* I would like to post part of one of realist's post (when he was "LifelongChastity")...perhaps he should heed some of his own advice... quote: So.... why even have a profile if you're so irritated by the people on this site?

realist -> RE: Reality Check (5/23/2005 9:44:16 AM)
quote: I will also say this,,,the OP presents himself as a big boy, why isn't he responding to this as you are??? You're just flaming. Very normal for the internet isn't it. I have things to say that are far more important and interesting than replying to your torrent of insult and far-reached-for assuming-the-worst of me. You only make my point more starkly that should anyone defy the pretended online status quo, faithful flame warriors will erupt to defend the good name of all puretm and truetm things mythic. Your suspicions about my nicknames have me rolling in laughter. Just to showcase how wrong a flame warrior can be, and almost always is, here's the explanation of my three nicknames at Collarme.com: Nickname #1 my first time here, approximately 2.5 years ago. I didn't really pay much attention to the timeframe and don't care if that's not fully accurate. Nickname #2 a more recent attempt here, with a new computer and new ISP. I noticed that there are more exploitative and absurd ads now. Nickname #3 my current nickname, used for editorial purposes, to make the statements I have made. This nickname fits what I'm saying lately and the change was for that reason. Hardly even remotely akin to your wild guesswork assumptions-of-the-worst about hiding from my past errors or changing my BDSM beliefs or being a troublemaker. I think the fact that you reached so far to slur what's not only common around here, but is actually so simple and bland, is hysterical. I also enjoyed the troll accusations, those were pretty funny too, since my posts have remained on a clear topic and have built upon one another making a strong case for my overall argument. Trolls just piss people off, I, on the other hand, have made my points, backed them up with further arguments, cited ample evidence, and have stayed on topic. That's not trolling, that's arguing a point effectively. I expect further flaming for being capable in these regards. Have at it if you like. [:)] I thank you for the laugh, and will likely ignore the rest of your whacky content aimed my way while I press my case concerning online mythology, it's severalfold impacts, and the lengths some will go to attack those who do not value it or are critical of it. It cannot be more clearly made by me than it has been by you that anyone realistic and non online myth allegiant is not welcome and will be flamed. You are then, potent evidence of the validity of my point. In real life I would laugh you off and walk away, forgetting your flamejob by the time I made it to my car (unless I was still laughing). In doing something similar online with you, that is, ignoring your flaming litany and going on about my business, I mock your lack of manners and act online very akin to how I would offline, in reality, where my manners and non-confrontational demeanor always mark me as someone who earns respect and is easy to get along with, despite that you need to characterize me otherwise to safeguard your online-derived mythology. My dissenting voice will not be silenced nor will I be distracted from my main points by an everyday average internet flamejob. I will cite that as evidence, however. I contend that online flamers behave so because in real life, people do to them just as I do, and fail to allow them their pretended status and fail to allow them transgressions of simple everyday real world good manners. You would be asked to leave a munch, or my living room, if you were there and behaving as you have here, taking everything said in the worst possible way. That's realism. That's my point. I enjoy how different that is from a flaming contest, which you obviously seek with me, but shall not have. If you want to call me condescending, go ahead, I don't flame and I don't make time for flamers. I am indeed quite a bit better than that. [:)]

AAkasha -> RE: Reality Check (5/23/2005 9:51:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: realist quote: I will also say this,,,the OP presents himself as a big boy, why isn't he responding to this as you are??? You're just flaming. Very normal for the internet isn't it. I have things to say that are far more important and interesting than replying to your torrent of insult and far-reached-for assuming-the-worst of me. You only make my point more starkly that should anyone defy the pretended online status quo, faithful flame warriors will erupt to defend the good name of all puretm and truetm things mythic. Your suspicions about my nicknames have me rolling in laughter. Just to showcase how wrong a flame warrior can be, and almost always is, here's the explanation of my three nicknames at Collarme.com: Nickname #1 my first time here, approximately 2.5 years ago. I didn't really pay much attention to the timeframe and don't care if that's not fully accurate. Nickname #2 a more recent attempt here, with a new computer and new ISP. I noticed that there are more exploitative and absurd ads now. Nickname #3 my current nickname, used for editorial purposes, to make the statements I have made. This nickname fits what I'm saying lately and the change was for that reason. Hardly even remotely akin to your wild guesswork assumptions-of-the-worst about hiding from my past errors or changing my BDSM beliefs or being a troublemaker. I think the fact that you reached so far to slur what's not only common around here, but is actually so simple and bland, is hysterical. I also enjoyed the troll accusations, those were pretty funny too, since my posts have remained on a clear topic and have built upon one another making a strong case for my overall argument. Trolls just piss people off, I, on the other hand, have made my points, backed them up with further arguments, cited ample evidence, and have stayed on topic. That's not trolling, that's arguing a point effectively. I expect further flaming for being capable in these regards. Have at it if you like. [:)] I thank you for the laugh, and will likely ignore the rest of your whacky content aimed my way while I press my case concerning online mythology, it's severalfold impacts, and the lengths some will go to attack those who do not value it or are critical of it. It cannot be more clearly made by me than it has been by you that anyone realistic and non online myth allegiant is not welcome and will be flamed. You are then, potent evidence of the validity of my point. In real life I would laugh you off and walk away, forgetting your flamejob by the time I made it to my car (unless I was still laughing). In doing something similar online with you, that is, ignoring your flaming litany and going on about my business, I mock your lack of manners and act online very akin to how I would offline, in reality, where my manners and non-confrontational demeanor always mark me as someone who earns respect and is easy to get along with, despite that you need to characterize me otherwise to safeguard your online-derived mythology. My dissenting voice will not be silenced nor will I be distracted from my main points by an everyday average internet flamejob. I will cite that as evidence, however. I contend that online flamers behave so because in real life, people do to them just as I do, and fail to allow them their pretended status and fail to allow them transgressions of simple everyday real world good manners. You would be asked to leave a munch, or my living room, if you were there and behaving as you have here, taking everything said in the worst possible way. That's realism. That's my point. I enjoy how different that is from a flaming contest, which you obviously seek with me, but shall not have. If you want to call me condescending, go ahead, I don't flame and I don't make time for flamers. I am indeed quite a bit better than that. [:)] And of course as soon as Realist logs off, OceanSlave logs on to back him up. Talk about too much time on your hands. The only thing more sad than a guy with 4 or 5 profiles here is a guy who can't even properly keep track of them to respond to the other ones. You've been had. Go make some new profiles and try again. And as for someone who uses the lame insult over and over again, "you spend too much time on here," you obviously obsess over this place so much that one profile just isn't enough. That must be very time consuming. Sad for you. Akasha

OceanSlave -> RE: Reality Check (5/23/2005 9:52:01 AM)
I've clicked on several profiles, and many of the pictures made me nearly puke. Old, fat, ugly -- or all the above. That's this forum. No wonder everyone's so bitter.

AAkasha -> RE: Reality Check (5/23/2005 9:53:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OceanSlave I've clicked on several profiles, and many of the pictures made me nearly puke. Old, fat, ugly -- or all the above. That's this forum. No wonder everyone's so bitter. You usually break out this lame insult way earlier when you're getting your ass handed to you in a thread. Got any new material? Akasha

ginger21 -> RE: Reality Check (5/23/2005 9:54:24 AM)
Hey guys, I just noticed something...I'm sure many of us have figured it out, but I'm gonna post it anyway, b/c homeboy is really chafing my hide. "OceanSlave" has only turned up in the threads of "LifelongChastity" and "realist", while LLC and "realist" have yet to post in any other threads but the ones they've created. Is that odd to anyone else?

ginger21 -> RE: Reality Check (5/23/2005 9:56:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OceanSlave I've clicked on several profiles, and many of the pictures made me nearly puke. Old, fat, ugly -- or all the above. That's this forum. No wonder everyone's so bitter. THIS coming from the bitch that was whining about "vitirol" earlier in the thread? At least those of us with pictures had the balls to put them up. Let us see what you look like, idiot. I'm sure you fall under the "all of the above" heading.

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