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RE: Blocked for no good reason? - 5/29/2007 7:39:43 AM   
SimplyMichael


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Status: offline 		MellowSir,

I just want to thank you for working so hard to make me look better.  Otherwise I would simply be another arrogant horny bastard who likes fucking barely willing women in the ass.  Instead I stand out as a voice of reason and a benchmark of quality.

So thank you from the bottom of my heart for all the hard work you do!

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RE: Blocked for no good reason? - 5/29/2007 7:42:42 AM   
KatyLied


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RE: Blocked for no good reason? - 5/29/2007 7:48:36 AM   
SirDominic


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Status: offline 		Mellow, listen to what these women are telling you. Most do not respond if they are not interested. They have been forced to do this because:

a. If they respond that they are not interested, too many men take that as an invitation to continue trying. Why aren't they interested? Why not just meet to see if we might be good for each other? etc., etc., etc. Nobody likes to be hounded.

b. Too many times, when a woman responds politely they are not interested, they get a nasty reply back. Either it's the "you are not really a submissive" thang, or downright hostility and cruelty. Nobody likes to be abused.

c. Most women get a lot of emails per day, some get an enormous amount of emails per day. They don't have the time to politely answer each one, even if they wanted to. Nobody should be expected to spend their entire life on this site turning guys down.

All that being said, I DO understand your frustration. There was a thread a few months ago where someone made a good case that women get so many emails that they end up getting jaded. They subconsciously end up looking at each person thinking what is wrong with this one, rather than what is right. This one is okay, that one seems good, but tomorrow maybe someone even better will come along.

Honestly I am always amused at the men who complain about being rejected out of hand AS WELL AS all the women who tell men to suck it up and get over it. Most men don't have a clue what it is like to be a woman on this site, and most women don't have a clue what a guy goes through either. Each side seems to see the issue only from thier own perspective.

Here is an idea that would be very illuminating to everyone. Women, make up a fake profile as a guy and try to get a response. Keep contacting day after day, month after month, never getting an answer. See how long it takes you to get to the level of frustration a lot of guys on this site feel.

Men, make up a fake female profile, and watch the inbox become inundated with replies. See if you can really take the time to answer them all with a polite "no thanks", and what kind of responses you get back. As well as the sheer volume of time you waste in your day.

Really, if men and women walked in each other's shoes for a month, there would be a lot more understanding of what the other side is having to deal with.

Namaste, Sir Dominic

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RE: Blocked for no good reason? - 5/29/2007 8:05:26 AM   
puella


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Status: offline 		Hello Dominic,

I am actually surprised at something you said in your response.

Though I can understand the idea of trying to understand the other person's perspective, I think it is highly objectionable to encorage a bevy of people to make fake identities, attempting to get good response from women. 

The problem is this one... what if you do get some responses... you will have effectively just given a number of women a very good reason to be jaded and cynnical... fake emails for childish agendas is a sure way to make initial contact with women an even greater problem, in my opinion.



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RE: Blocked for no good reason? - 5/29/2007 8:09:57 AM   
SimplyMichael


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I think he meant to make a fake woman's profile to see how many idiotic men send completely moronic messages so they will stop pissy whiny posts about how the chicks here don't dig em.

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RE: Blocked for no good reason? - 5/29/2007 8:11:54 AM   
puella


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ORIGINAL: SirDominic


Here is an idea that would be very illuminating to everyone. Women, make up a fake profile as a guy and try to get a response. Keep contacting day after day, month after month, never getting an answer. See how long it takes you to get to the level of frustration a lot of guys on this site feel.




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RE: Blocked for no good reason? - 5/29/2007 8:15:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		I had a conversation with a dom during the last "why don't women answer emails" thread.  He was very vocal about how rude it was and how there was no excuse for not answering.  I told him to set up a female profile, pic and all and let me know what happened.  I talked to him a week later and he couldn't believe the types and quantity of email he got.  Let's just say...I doubt he's very supportive of the "you have to answer every email with a thanks, but no thanks" point of view anymore.  It was a definite eye opener for him. 

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RE: Blocked for no good reason? - 5/29/2007 8:15:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		ah, but I do get my way sometimes, usually more so from the vanillas, mister perfect dom doesn't exist and neither does the perfect sub, don't put me in the wrong for coming down on those who play at games or say they want something when they really don't know what they want. Easy for the women to be pickier with so many more offers than the men, fortunately those that truly know me also know the double standard doesn't apply to me. I'm never out in the cold and those that don't like it can kiss my a**. Excuses excuses, aaargh

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RE: Blocked for no good reason? - 5/29/2007 8:17:45 AM   
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ah, but I do get my way sometimes, usually more so from the vanillas,


Maybe you should stick with the vanillas.  Maybe those girls don't mind whiners.


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RE: Blocked for no good reason? - 5/29/2007 8:21:36 AM   
livenlearn


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I have only been here a very short time. My first email was from a man who wrote telling me that I needed to find myself a mentor. I wrote back and said that I was not interested in a mentor. He asked why not. I replied that I had a boyfriend and did not need to learn with or from anyone else. He replied that I was a fake and that I did not belong here.
 
My second email: a man writes asking what kind of training I am looking for. I replied that I was not looking for training. He writes back and says then what are you doing here; this site is for the forming of relationships; you don't belong.
 
My third email: a man writes asking me how WE are doing in our search here. I reply back that WE are doing just fine, and thankyou for the kind words of encouragement. He writes back stating that since we are in the same area, we should get together. I reply no thanks. He replies with "fake'
 
I can understand why so many of the woman here block or dont respond to emails. Most of the men are idiots.

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RE: Blocked for no good reason? - 5/29/2007 8:28:46 AM   
MellowSir


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Status: offline 		There's that "whiner" word again, it so seems to be a favorite moniker here lol, that's fine tho, I can take it and I'm still standing....I'll "whine" all the way to the next sub's ass I spank too

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RE: Blocked for no good reason? - 5/29/2007 8:33:23 AM   
juliaoceania


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ORIGINAL: MellowSir

ah, but I do get my way sometimes, usually more so from the vanillas, mister perfect dom doesn't exist and neither does the perfect sub, don't put me in the wrong for coming down on those who play at games or say they want something when they really don't know what they want. Easy for the women to be pickier with so many more offers than the men, fortunately those that truly know me also know the double standard doesn't apply to me. I'm never out in the cold and those that don't like it can kiss my a**. Excuses excuses, aaargh


You want to know why you do not have a submissive yet? Because your attitude kinda sucks.

Now you tell me why in the world anyone should reply to you? To be polite? So you desire people to respond to you out of politeness and not because they are genuinely interested in you? I find that odd.

I just thought I would also point out something to you, just because you fit the basic demographics of what someone seeks does not mean they will be attracted to you. More often than not they probably will not be, that is how it works for most people. We are not deeply attracted to everyone that emails us based upon their hair, the way they typed an email, the journal entries on their profile, or the forum posts that they leave behind...

When I first was approached by my Daddy and he gave me this site, I read all of his posts here. I grew more attracted to him as a result... how attractive do you think it is to wish ill on someone because they are not attracted to you? If I read that I would run, not walk, run in the other direction. And smart ones will read the trail of posts you leave behind for clues into who you really are....

...and from what I can see you are not the "nice guy" you claim to be.. it isn't nice to expect others to conform to your wishes non consensually, it isn't nice to wish ill on to others because they do not want to include you in their reality, and it isn't nice to brand someone as a fake because they do not want you... actually these are the behaviors of men I rejected quite often when I was looking....

I have a Dom, I found him (or he found me) on a site like this, so if you are not finding what you want I suggest you look in the mirror.. because you cannot control the behavior of strangers, you can only control yourself, and if you are not in control over your emotions, someone else is in control over your emotions,... and based upon what you have written here I get the impression that the submissives you email are the ones in control over you... and by definition that is not what submissives want.... think about it.



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RE: Blocked for no good reason? - 5/29/2007 8:34:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MellowSir

There's that "whiner" word again, it so seems to be a favorite moniker here lol, that's fine tho, I can take it and I'm still standing....I'll "whine" all the way to the next sub's ass I spank too

/snicker

The way you are going, it will be along time before you get that ass to spank.

Do you know how 'unmanly' it is to sit here and complain about woman who don't find you interesting in the least? You want someone to take notice of  you? Then step up and be a man for a change....such childish antics are quite the turn off

( just a small little note here....many of the submissive/slave women on the other side may not post on these boards, but I will bet that 99% of them READ these boards )

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RE: Blocked for no good reason? - 5/29/2007 8:38:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MellowSir

ah, but I do get my way sometimes, usually more so from the vanillas, mister perfect dom doesn't exist and neither does the perfect sub, don't put me in the wrong for coming down on those who play at games or say they want something when they really don't know what they want. Easy for the women to be pickier with so many more offers than the men, fortunately those that truly know me also know the double standard doesn't apply to me. I'm never out in the cold and those that don't like it can kiss my a**. Excuses excuses, aaargh


I have read a number of your posts on the fora and they have all been very similar in tone and attitude. I am sure I am not the only female submissive that reads them. Perhaps there is your answer. Some submissives have no need to read any mail message you might send them as they are already privy to your whiny, belligerent, crappy attitude.

Actually the perfect Dom does exist. For each of us female submissives there is a perfect Dom out there for us. I am lucky enough to have found mine and whats more I found him online so it does happen. However he conducted himself online and in real life as a confident, polite and impressively dominant person. Something you have yet to learn how to do.

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RE: Blocked for no good reason? - 5/29/2007 9:18:24 AM   
caitlyn


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Status: offline 		People use "whining" to attempt to get under your skin. You can't even respond, because they will tell you it's just more of the same.
 
I'm going to make a confession ... in the past I've looked down on the online dating thing. It was probably ego ... you know, I don't NEED to get online. About a year ago, one of my best friends, who is a serious hottie, got a date on one of the commercial, vanilla, dating sites. She isn't really interrested in BDSM, but does like a little recreational spankies. This guy had in his profile, something like (paraphrases):

... I like to keep a girl guessing, and if that nOT Kool with you, maybe we aren't a good fit ...

Anyway ... it has turned out to be a pretty good relationship, so I guess my opinions about online dating were FOS. Of course, there are also a lot of nice people on here that met online ... so I get a double-FOS.
 
Point (and there actually is one) ... keep trying, and don't take things too personally ... and don't come to conclusions that may not be true, or you may end up with a triple-FOS.

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RE: Blocked for no good reason? - 5/29/2007 9:24:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterLordguru

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ORIGINAL: MistressDarling

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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

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ORIGINAL: MellowSirHi

and you know what, look around and you'll see that women tend to prefer jerks anyway because there are sure a lot with just that.

wow - what a blanket assumption



And an incorrect one at that!

Mellow, Doms like you are the reason we DON'T reply to all emails!


Desperation brings contempt. An assumption such as that only makes real men cringe.

I like to think that if someone listened to the Eurythmics "Sweet Dreams" alot can be learned. Some woman want abusers, Some woman want protectors, Others want partners. And same thing with us Men.

And MistressDarling, respecting your wishes on your search of your area of NC, and reading your quick block cycl for last 5 post.. you are stunning and good that you caught him in his own deciet. Liars usually trip over their own lies without realizing it.

M.L.G


Awwwwww!!!! Thank you, sweetie. *smooches*

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RE: Blocked for no good reason? - 5/29/2007 9:24:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Very well said.

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RE: Blocked for no good reason? - 5/29/2007 9:54:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		fake emails for childish agendas

puella, considering the rampant lack of understanding by both men and women about what the other goes through, I hardly consider it a childish agenda. You have also proven my point about the need, as all you considered was the woman's, i.e., your sex's side of the coin. If each side where to try walking in the other sexes shoes for awhile, it would be a very eyeopening learning experience.

And as a bonus, men would finally understand the horror of women's shoes!

Look at Aileen's response above. Her suggestion that a guy she knows try this showed him just what a woman goes through. He now has a real understanding of the female experience on sites like this. That's precisely what I was suggesting and precisely the result I would have expected.

Namaste, Sir Dominic

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RE: Blocked for no good reason? - 5/29/2007 10:55:36 AM   
puella


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Status: offline 		You certainly do not have to agree with me Dominic, but I do maintain that setting up a fake profile and actually sending out seeminglygenuine messages to people who are seeking a partner just to get a tally is childish and disingenuous.  It also will probably leave a very bad taste in the mouths of those who were sent the fake messages.

Personally, I do not even think it is an issue of walking in someone else's shoes (let alone believing that 'what we go through' in terms of not getting a response back from a stranger who owes us nothing amounts to more than a mosquito bite on the ass of an elephant)... If you are so thin skinned that you can not take the smallest of all rejections in not getting a response from a person you have never met before on an online site, than perhaps you are not emotionally mature enough to enter into any relationship, let alone one with power exchange properties.

Beyond that, I think that if you are working with any kind of intelligence and comprehension, you can fathom the idea that it would be a mild tweak to be dismissed without being given any reason as to why (but again, you should be smart enough to understand that you are not entitled to a damn thing, either way) and/or that there is quite a bit of 'sub flooding' here on this site and also the very good possibility that the person has filtered you out of the time they have to spend here for their own reasons (for which you are not entitled to an explanation unless they decide to give it to you). 

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RE: Blocked for no good reason? - 5/29/2007 10:58:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: puella

You certainly do not have to agree with me Dominick, but I do maintain that setting up a fake profile and actually sending out seeminglygenuine messages to people who are seeking a partner just to get a tally is childish and disingenuous.

It's also something that would not be looked upon favorably by our benevolent overlords.

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