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Tuoni -> RE: Sexy High School Teacher Busted for Sex with Moron Student (6/4/2007 6:09:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: gothicdiva

Tuoni,

I wasn't talking about Canada...sorry if I offended you. I was speaking in GENERAL terms about people that complain about age limits. That includes my ex. Why don't they move somewhere where it's NOT against the law....that is all I meant. I don't appreciate you "singling me out" as I wasn't attacking you OR your country. And, thank you...I am quite well-versed in what a "pedophile" is.

Be well,
M. Diva


Ok, I do apoligize for being irritable in my post. I try not to be but sometimes I am.. It was how you wrote those last two lines. Specificly 2 parts.
quote:

he "age of consent" is considerably lower in some of the other countries

14 is considerably lower than 18 and Canada falls under the label of "other countries" Denmark and the Netherlands also falls under that labal.

quote:

So, I suggest that the pedophiles

"Pedophile" to be specific. A pedofile, as has been mentioned numerous times, is someone who engages (or is it simply wishes to engage?) in sexual acts with a prepubesent. A 14 year old is generally not a prepubesent. A 16 year old is almost garunteed not to be a prebubesent. Nothing about having having a age of consent at 14 helps pedophiles.

Its akin to saying "<random country here> is more lenient to accidental manslaughter. I suggest seriel killers should move there.

I'm not trying to be offensive (although I may be). I'm just trying to explain why I was offended and how what you type can be interputed. Be very careful when making an association between something like pedohpile and a people/nation/organization/whatever.





michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: Sexy High School Teacher Busted for Sex with Moron Student (6/4/2007 6:14:40 PM)

i did some checking and here's what i learned about "age of consent" in the USA:


[image]http://www.webistry.net/jan/images/pedotitle2.gif[/image]





STATE

AGE

Alabama

16

Alaska

16

Arizona

18

Arkansas

16

California

18

Colorado

15

Connecticut

15

D.C.

16

Delaware

16

Florida

16/18 (bill pending)

Georgia

16

Hawaii

14

Idaho

14

Illinois

16/17

Indiana

16

Iowa

18

Kansas

16

Kentucky

16 - [1]

Louisiana

17

Maine

16

Maryland

16

Massachusetts

16/18

Michigan

16

Minnesota

16

Mississippi

16 - [2]

Missouri

17

Montana

16

Nebraska

16

Nevada

16

New Hampshire

16/18

New Jersey

16/18

New Mexico

17

New York

17

North Carolina

16

North Dakota

18

Ohio

16

Oklahoma

16

Oregon

18

Pennsylvania

16

Rhode Island

16

South Carolina

14/16

South Dakota

16

Tennessee

18

Texas

17

Utah

16/18

Vermont

16

Virginia

15

Washington

16

West Virginia

16

Wisconsin

18

Wyoming

16

Puerto Rico

18
FOOTNOTES:
[1]Age 16 if the man is 21 or older.
[2]If the female is over 12, the status applies only to virgins.

not sure what the Footnotes means...but this is the was on:

http://search.netscape.com/search/redir?src=websearch&requestId=fc234f47b24867c1&clickedItemRank=1&userQuery=Age+Of+Consent%2C+by+state&clickedItemURN=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.webistry.net%2Fjan%2Fconsent.html&title=Age+of+Consent+-+by+State&moduleId=matchingsites.jsp.M&clickedItemPageRanking=1&clickedItemPage=1&clickedItemDescription=WebResults



marieToo -> RE: Sexy High School Teacher Busted for Sex with Moron Student (6/4/2007 6:16:59 PM)

What seems freaky to me is that someone else said that the age of consent is different for males than for females.  I cant get my head around that.  Wonder if its true.



Misstoyou -> RE: Sexy High School Teacher Busted for Sex with Moron Student (6/4/2007 7:21:41 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinergy

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne

pre-emptive law enforcement, like giving someone a trafic ticket because they might speed  someday!



[smartass]

If they were stopped by an officer of the law, they must be going to break the law at some point,

Otherwise, there would be no reason to stop them.

Q.E.D.

[/smartass]

Sinergy


Hey! My dad has used that very logic to get out of jury duty, dismissed by the defense for cause. lol



Sinergy -> RE: Sexy High School Teacher Busted for Sex with Moron Student (6/4/2007 7:25:58 PM)

You never see me and your father at the same party.

A coincidence?  I think not.

Sinergy



Misstoyou -> RE: Sexy High School Teacher Busted for Sex with Moron Student (6/4/2007 7:26:22 PM)

And as far as the topic, if the individual involved is the teacher, then he/she KNOWS that regardless of how they look on the outside, the bundle of adolescent hormones is still a child.



Sinergy -> RE: Sexy High School Teacher Busted for Sex with Moron Student (6/4/2007 8:27:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Misstoyou

And as far as the topic, if the individual involved is the teacher, then he/she KNOWS that regardless of how they look on the outside, the bundle of adolescent hormones is still a child.


I teach adult women in adrenalin / heightened hormone levels states.  While it is not technically therapy, the line between what I do as a mock assailant and what a therapist does introducing the patient to her / his innermost emotional demons is fairly blurred.  I have always had a deeply rooted ethical sense that any sort of educator, therapist, doctor to patient, student realtionship is simply wrong.  The power relationship between the two sides is such, no matter how effectively those involved justify / explain it away, that I personally do not think it is a truly consensual relationship.

Or perhaps this is just my own personal rationalization about why the idea of fucking students I have taught creeps me out more than words can really express.

Ewww, ick.

Sinergy



FirmhandKY -> RE: Sexy High School Teacher Busted for Sex with Moron Student (6/4/2007 8:33:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

errr wait a minte....  correct me if i am wrong but isnt the age of consent for females still 14 in kentucky?   i know it was for years or has that changed recently?

there has to be someone floating around here from kentucky to square this away!


Kentucky Revised Statue Sexual Offenses:

510.020 Lack of Consent:

(1) Whether or not specifically stated, it is an element of every offense defined in this
chapter that the sexual act was committed without consent of the victim.

(2) Lack of consent results from:
   (a) Forcible compulsion;
   (b) Incapacity to consent; or
   (c) If the offense charged is sexual abuse, any circumstances in addition to forcible compulsion or incapacity to consent in which the victim does not expressly or impliedly acquiesce in the actor's conduct.

(3) A person is deemed incapable of consent when he or she is:
   (a) Less than sixteen (16) years old;
   (b) Mentally retarded or suffers from a mental illness;
   (c) Mentally incapacitated;
   (d) Physically helpless; or
   (e) Under the care or custody of a state or local agency pursuant to court order and the actor is employed by or working on behalf of the state or local agency.

(4) The provisions of subsection (3)(e) of this section shall not apply to persons who are lawfully married to each other and no court order is in effect prohibiting contact between the parties.

However:

510.050 Rape in the second degree.

(1) A person is guilty of rape in the second degree when:
   (a) Being eighteen (18) years old or more, he engages in sexual intercourse with another person less than fourteen (14) years old; or

and,

510.060 Rape in the third degree.

(1) A person is guilty of rape in the third degree when:
   (a) He engages in sexual intercourse with another person who is incapable of consent because he is mentally retarded;
   (b) Being twenty-one (21) years old or more, he engages in sexual intercourse with another person less than sixteen (16) years old

This same information is in the links provided above by Ven.

You may find this interesting as well:

Age of Consent laws by State.

FirmKY




michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: Sexy High School Teacher Busted for Sex with Moron Student (6/4/2007 8:35:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: marieToo

What seems freaky to me is that someone else said that the age of consent is different for males than for females.  I cant get my head around that.  Wonder if its true.


according to one site, there is a difference in ages for male and females...not sure why...email me and i'll send you the site location.



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