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Aswad -> RE: Sexy High School Teacher Busted for Sex with Moron Student (6/2/2007 10:26:08 PM)
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ORIGINAL: tsherpet
Grow a brain and stop throwing your support behind paedophiles.
No prepubescents were involved in the case mentioned. Stop conflating issues.
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I cannot believe what a moron you are. He is a child, she is a predator. How is being raped by a predator a fantastic thing? You should be on trial here with this bitch.
Please keep it civil. There's no reason to start messing up this thread for everyone by namecalling and suggesting people be put on trial for their opinions. Thoughtcrime much?
Furthermore, it was statutory rape, which is distinct from rape.
It is an insult to rape victims everywhere to confuse consensual sexual relations with forced, non-consensual sexual contact. Statutory rape is a crime because the person of lower age is considered unable to make a good judgment call. Rape is a crime because it is a violation. The two are very different.
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If the guy wanted to address his raging hormones, he should have tried with a consenting fellow student.
Which would be equally illegal under some jurisdictions.
And how, exactly, would this be better?
Consider that both parties would be a lot more likely to have a crap experience in such a scenario. Saying someone cannot have sex with an adult because they don't have the maturity of judgment kind of clearly implies that it won't be any better if they have sex with someone else who lacks that maturity. Not to mention the bits about experience, the pain involved with tearing the hymen, etc., but those are subjective in nature.
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And just how many kids did you know who actually got a teacher? And how are their lives now?
Can't answer for her. But in my case, I've seen one turn out well after a period of turmoil (which isn't a big surprise, as she grew up with an abusive uncle and father, a torn home, and a mother with *ahem* issues), and three turn out very well with no difficulties along the way.
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Are you kidding? Have you missed all the paedophilia stories all over the news? Try a psychologist, I have a feeling you'll personally need one anyway, but they will be able to inform you of all the potential problems.
Let me paraphrase this into a different, but similar context: witch trials.
"Are you kidding? Have you missed all the stories about what the witches are up to? Try a priest, they'll be able to inform you of all their evils."
The news aren't a reliable source for anything. They constitute little more than a feedback loop with an additional input from the sponsors. And psychology is to the mind what "laying on hands" is to the body, except for CBT (general) and DBT (borderline); that's the state of the field. On that foundation, a whole industry has been built, victimizing these kids beyond any potential of the actions they'd been part of.
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Maybe he already had problems lying just under the surface and now his mind is developing a psychosis which will drive him to punish young women for this one teachers actions?
Most pathologies of that kind stem from being sexually repressed when growing up, not being sexually active; some stem from rape (in the "force" or "abuse of dependancy and trust" senses).
While there are certainly legitimate concerns about how the fallout will impact his mental health in the long term, it is a virtual certainty that he will not turn into some kind of Ted Bundy over this.
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You make me sick, more than the actual paedophiles do.
No offense, but why do you get more sick at the idea that people may think differently than yourself than you do at an act you espouse as being horrendous? How can it be worse for someone to think a thought than to carry out an action? That's the whole mindcrime mentality, about which there's plenty of good literature, so I'll refrain from adding fuel to the fire by adding my opinions on such views.
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Moron, this case was involuntary sexual assault.
You might want to clarify this for the non-native speakers, like me.
Do you mean "involuntary involuntary sex"? That seems redundant, so probably not it.
Or do you mean "she involuntarily committed a crime"? That also seems odd; one doesn't generally just "happen to" rape someone "by accident", in my experience. YMMV.
So a clearer explanation of that phrase would be very helpful.
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He was a 16 year old student. He cannot instigate anything with a teacher, nor can he give consent.
He can clearly instigate something; that's what he did. QED.
He can also give consent. But that consent isn't valid, so she can't accept it, legally.
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You are a paedophile aren't you?
Please refrain from making such accusations against anyone in the future without proper documentation to back it up in a court of law. This board can get in serious trouble over you making such a post in a public forum, if I remember my legalese correctly, and it is not an appropriate place for slander and libel.
It is also unbelievably rude, coming from someone who appears to consider that the worst possible insult one can give, and as such entirely unsuited for the forum. Is a little bit of civility too much to ask for? I'm not just talking about him, even. I'm talking about the rest of us as well. Do we need to hear your namecalling? Take it to a private message if you need to insult someone, rather than littering the boards. Please.
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They are the only ones who think a child can seduce an adult.
Actually, without qualifying the term "child" in your sentence, that may not be true. In some jurisdictions, you are a child in these matters while you are 21 years old. I know from experience that a 20 year old woman may well be capable of seducing a man. A prepubescent, however, would presumably lack that capacity, and presumably also the inclination. Hence, be a bit more specific.
I have an uncle who married a woman 18 years his senior, so age doesn't always figure into things, past a certain point. It would be helpful if you could clarify what point you are using as a reference here.
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Also amny victims don't report, that means nothing.
On behalf of some people I know who didn't report various things because they weren't victims, and some who did report because they were: "Stop trying to make victims out of people who aren't. It degrades them, and it makes the people who are victims 'compete' with those who aren't."
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Kids understand way more about sex than people want to give them credit for. In fact many kids are for all intents in purposes sexual predators and anyone willing will do!
The only kids who are like that are the ones born sociopaths or introduced to sex way too early. It is not normal.
You haven't been around any teens lately, have you? [:D]
And introducing people to sex "too early" (which is when, exactly?) is not what causes such things, nor does one have to be a sociopath to be full of raging hormones as a teen. As to "normal", that depends on the culture you are from.
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You know nothing about developmental psychology, and it is never consentual when a student has sex with a teacher, or a child with a parent or step parent. One has to have a sound mind to give consent.
With all due respect, most people have a sound mind from birth until well into old age. The issue is maturity. And hormones are no more potent than "falling in love" is for adults; both impair judgment, and both could be construed as exceptions to the "undue influence" requirements of consent (since we'd otherwise have negative net population growth).
It's not about him giving consent. It's about her accepting the consent he gives; that's the problem.
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You have no idea of what you are talking about. And I doubt the money helps do anything more than pay to dull the pain. And yes, I know exactly what I'm talking about.
Sorry to hear that. Try not to let your past make you a victim forever, or to force that role upon others. It certainly explains the bias and the vehemency. My condolences.
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I can't read any more of the sick fucks who think paedophilia is ok.
Nobody is saying it is. Or, at least, nobody is saying it's okay to act on it. One of the strongest opponents of lowering the age of consent in Norway is a pedophile, and one who has refrained from acting on that orientation.
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Get some fucking help.
Given your past, and how it obviously influences your behaviour toward others, such might not be entirely out of place to consider for yourself. As help for you, I mean, not for us. I can read these posts, no harm, no foul. But it might lighten your burden more than venting here.
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