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RE: Rules, protocol, and the whole ball of wax. - 6/6/2007 11:43:52 PM   
juliaoceania


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A title is earned, not given; you earned your title as I did mine;


I keep wondering who awarded you with this "title". I live close by Fresno, was it the community there that gave you this title? I have been acquainted with a couple of the members of TGIF, they have helped me check out at least one dom that ended up being a scary fellow, were they the group that awarded you your title? Exactly who gave you this exalted title of "slave" since you are claiming that it must be earned and awarded... just curious

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RE: Rules, protocol, and the whole ball of wax. - 6/7/2007 12:02:22 AM   
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A title is earned, not given; you earned your title as I did mine;


I keep wondering who awarded you with this "title". I live close by Fresno, was it the community there that gave you this title? I have been acquainted with a couple of the members of TGIF, they have helped me check out at least one dom that ended up being a scary fellow, were they the group that awarded you your title? Exactly who gave you this exalted title of "slave" since you are claiming that it must be earned and awarded... just curious


I just want to know what the heck spice, point and expectance are.

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RE: Rules, protocol, and the whole ball of wax. - 6/7/2007 4:25:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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A title is earned, not given; you earned your title as I did mine;


I keep wondering who awarded you with this "title". I live close by Fresno, was it the community there that gave you this title? I have been acquainted with a couple of the members of TGIF, they have helped me check out at least one dom that ended up being a scary fellow, were they the group that awarded you your title? Exactly who gave you this exalted title of "slave" since you are claiming that it must be earned and awarded... just curious


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RE: Rules, protocol, and the whole ball of wax. - 6/7/2007 7:55:31 AM   
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I have  read some disturbing things that she has posted on this board about her local group. Things like they shelter someone who is an attempted murderer, and that sort of thing... so I am thinking it was not them that trained her in all of these "arts"

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I CANNOT go to local munches. A dom who stalked and tried to kill me is welcome at the local munches and he knows the local Mistress who runs them very well, so its NOT safe for me to go to such events, besides, the last thing I need is have a breakdown. From what I know, this criminal shows up on occassion, so thats a no go.




Since she has where she lives listed on her profile, I wonder if she knows how slanderous such a statement is toward other people in this lifestyle. It is not hard too google Fresno and discover who this "mistress" is. This group has a fine reputation for caring about the safety of others. I had considered joining this group myself actually, emailed with a few of the members....

I just think slamming people on the internet behind their backs is not very nice or ethical

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RE: Rules, protocol, and the whole ball of wax. - 6/7/2007 8:13:36 AM   
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slaveAileen68
Oh look...I'm a slave now.


hehe.
me too me too...slavekatylied
I'm walking the path of true slavery.



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RE: Rules, protocol, and the whole ball of wax. - 6/7/2007 8:26:22 AM   
juliaoceania


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slaveAileen68
Oh look...I'm a slave now.


hehe.
me too me too...slavekatylied
I'm walking the path of true slavery.




I earned the title when there was a debate about them... remember slave julia?

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RE: Rules, protocol, and the whole ball of wax. - 6/7/2007 8:38:30 AM   
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I earned the title when there was a debate about them... remember slave julia?


Yes, of course I remember....    


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RE: Rules, protocol, and the whole ball of wax. - 6/7/2007 8:41:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

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ORIGINAL: slaverosebeauty
I do wholeheartedly believe that the title of 'slave' is earned, NOT given, as it does mean the bar is set higher and more is expected in a relationship from one who is 'a slave.' Their use to be a 'heirarchy' of sorts that listed what the baseline for 'a submissive,' 'a servant,' a slave,' 'a pet' etc were. Its been years since I have seen such a thing, yet I do remember it.
 
My goal was NEVER to be 'a slave,' I figured out a long time ago that I was more submissve to various types of men, so entering into D/s was a natural progression and place for me, especially when I started to persue older men for relationships, things worked out. I don't look at what I experienced as self-identification, I look at it more as a different way of learning and one that I am greatfull for; things aren't wishy washy as with other I have encountered on the boards. The bar is higher, and I strive for it; just as I set it higher for a potential partner.
 
 
My areas of 'formal training' are - basic positioning, cum, ass, spice, obediance, breath control, eye, point, verbal, expectance, oral, manners (including high protocol and 3rd person).
 
It was like any other training, just done over and over. It was structured, it was extensive it was all inclusive, from the moment I woke up til I finally went to bed, and even then, sleeping was a learned experience, you try having a chain around your ankle, and try to get comfortable, not easy. 48 to 72 hours at a time.
 
Don't get me wrong, I was allowed to check in with my child and those who were my safe calls, but, things were structured and VERY high protocol. After xyz weekends like that, I earned my title, my view on M/s and on lifestyle changed, I saw things differently, hense my strong views on many things.
 
I need a refresher course on some things and in some areas, but, right now, I don't see that as an issue; I exceeded expectations this weekend.  I set the bar higher not only for me, but for him as well; I just take this new path and journey as a new chance to learn and to grow. I will be going back over notes, more to get that headspace back, for the moment, I'm not worried, I'm glad we are still talking and on the same page.


I am just beside myself. Here I was wandering through life completely comfortable and thinking I was relatively self aware...and now my very identity is cast into doubt. I never went to weekend slave camp, have no idea what the heck spice, point or expectance training are and have never spoken in the third person. I guess I should be ashamed of myself for ever even entertaining the idea that I could have ever been a slave as surely my absence at training camp and my lack of "formal instruction" in these areas would obviously negate the 25 consecutive years I spent in service, not just on weekends, but every moment of every day. I can see now that I didn't go through the proper channels to earn my title so therefore....my life has been but a lie.

LMAO...nice.....


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RE: Rules, protocol, and the whole ball of wax. - 6/7/2007 9:14:12 AM   
happypervert


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Oh my...what a tidy, pretty little world you live in.  So neat and orderly.

slaveAileen68
Oh look...I'm a slave now.

Obbviously you don't get it. The title of slave must be EARNED through formal training!

So, you need to do a litle dance, learn a couple of poses, talk in 3rd person and blow me, and then you will have earned the right to call yourself a slave. Until you do all that, you just ain't twue.


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RE: Rules, protocol, and the whole ball of wax. - 6/7/2007 9:15:31 AM   
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Oh my...what a tidy, pretty little world you live in.  So neat and orderly.

slaveAileen68
Oh look...I'm a slave now.

Obbviously you don't get it. The title of slave must be EARNED through formal training!

So, you need to do a litle dance, learn a couple of poses, talk in 3rd person and blow me, and then you will have earned the right to call yourself a slave. Until you do all that, you just ain't twue.



Dont forget Roll Over, Sit, Heel, Beg, and Lie Down. Those are valuable parts of any formalized training

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RE: Rules, protocol, and the whole ball of wax. - 6/7/2007 10:21:16 AM   
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The first 'modern' slave protocals were Roman and were the household duties and sexual preparedness...a routine for which slaves were responsible. Then it wasn't about the little things as there were slaves to handle those...also as a matter of routine.

I have few and are equally about ones personal behavior as they are about any duties.

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RE: Rules, protocol, and the whole ball of wax. - 6/7/2007 11:58:22 AM   
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I just want to know what the heck spice, point and expectance are.


I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you....


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RE: Rules, protocol, and the whole ball of wax. - 6/23/2007 10:50:58 AM   
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Having been raised within an Old Guard poly family in the 1950s and lived most of my adult life within another....there is reasons for such rules, the foundations of basic thought and manners.....
It is quite different today, most make the rules within their Own houses.....

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RE: Rules, protocol, and the whole ball of wax. - 6/23/2007 11:14:12 AM   
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I agree Archer, protocol does not have to be difficult nor confusing.
Protocol is normally a set standard and an agreed upon  expectations.

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RE: Rules, protocol, and the whole ball of wax. - 6/23/2007 11:32:39 AM   
littleone35


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I do have some rules tht i have to follow.  Master does not really give me many rules so the ones he does give me are even more inportant in my mind.  it does not make me feel less of a sub that he does not give me many rules i am his and that is just that.

Matt's littleone

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RE: Rules, protocol, and the whole ball of wax. - 7/7/2007 9:03:36 AM   
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THE , ONLY RULE IS OBEY OBEY OBEY

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