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BeingChewsie -> RE: Food Stamp Challenge--$21 a week (6/8/2007 6:52:53 PM)

 
I was going to say we have some posters here who say they receive them, perhaps they get online and come here at work or from the public library, that time could be spent logged onto their schools site if that were the case. We there is a will there is a way.


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ORIGINAL: MsSonnetMarwood

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin
I have known quite a number of people over the years who qualified to receive food stamp benefits. None of them were in a position where they were able to afford a computer or a high speed internet connection.


To be fair, we have a couple of regulars on here who fall into that category.  






juliaoceania -> RE: Food Stamp Challenge--$21 a week (6/10/2007 6:38:27 AM)

Being on the internet is like having a phone these days, it is a necessity, especially with children who need it for school work. One can also get a dial up for about 10 bucks a month, so I do not see being online as a big financial obligation or luxury.




mistoferin -> RE: Food Stamp Challenge--$21 a week (6/10/2007 6:56:46 AM)

While I think you are right, for many of us it is a necessity...Lord knows I am not sure how I would function without one at this point! I think that all homes with school age children should certainly have one. But I think that for many that are receiving aid, it's not something that is within their reach. While it seems like a relatively small cost, $10 a month can be a lot of money that could be better spent elsewhere when you don't have it. To someone who is down to having to count every penny, $10 could be 4 gallons of milk, 5lbs. of chicken, cereal for a child for a month, a prescription for a sick child or gas for the car. While I agree that it is a good investment and could even be used to better the future, sometimes when you are that desperately poor you can't even imagine living for the future because you are too busy trying to just survive the present.  




juliaoceania -> RE: Food Stamp Challenge--$21 a week (6/10/2007 8:44:58 AM)

I was just responding to why people who claim to be on food stamps would also have internet. I think at this point it would be the last thing to go... I would forego tv, air conditioning, lower my heating costs, and skip a glass of milk a day for the internet.. I would definitely do away with any vice.




ElectraGlide -> RE: Food Stamp Challenge--$21 a week (6/10/2007 10:55:50 AM)

I was surviving on $21.00 a week for grocery shopping in the past because of my jobs. I worked at a gas station convenience store and lots of fresh food had to be thrown out, and my boss wanted me to take it home so it would not be wasted. We made fresh pizza, we had bagels, Crispy Creme donuts. I also worked in a big refrigerated warehouse. If the food had less then ten days on the expiration date, they would give it to us by the case, to save them dumpster cost. We had everything from frsh chicken to yogurt and lunch meats. Those were the days, the kids could not wait for me to get home to see what kind of goodies I had to munch on.




ElectraGlide -> RE: Food Stamp Challenge--$21 a week (6/10/2007 11:00:51 AM)

Speaking of luxuries, this lady at this one place I worked at, had a house fire, and a collection of money was raised for her. She had her nails air brushed real fancy a few days later and every body got pissed off. I did not care, she went through enough.




mistoferin -> RE: Food Stamp Challenge--$21 a week (6/10/2007 11:08:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ElectraGlide

Speaking of luxuries, this lady at this one place I worked at, had a house fire, and a collection of money was raised for her. She had her nails air brushed real fancy a few days later and every body got pissed off. I did not care, she went through enough.


Yeah, I've always thought it's pretty sad that people seem to think that if you have to ask for help or receive charity that you should be ashamed if you happen to get or have anything nice, no matter how small it is and that they look at that as if it were some kind of proof that you are not really needy.




BBBTBW -> RE: Food Stamp Challenge--$21 a week (6/10/2007 12:40:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MsSonnetMarwood


A couple things you're incorrect about:

- employers are not required to give employees benefits if they work full time.  Many do not.  Laws may vary from state to state, but I do know that New Jersey (nor PA or MD) doesn't require benefits for full time workers.

- scholarships and grants CAN cover books, gas to commute to school and back, and other expenses up to and including living stipends (although not enough to live on without also working at least part time).  It depends on the specific terms of what the specific scholarship will cover - and students can apply and get multiple scholarships



If you took it to mean I was implying that employers are REQUIRED to provide benefits, I'm sorry.  That was not my intent.  However, the two particular companies I mentioned have a policy where they DO provide benefits to full time employees, but hire as few as possible in order to not have to provide them.  While it is not required to provide benefits, if an employer has a benefit program in place, those benefits are required to be made available to employees under certain guidelines, such as all full time employees are entitled to benefits. 

Yes, many scholarships and grants can be used for any incidental expenses above and beyond tuition if the recipient has funds left after paying tuition.  However, some scholarships and grants are designated only for tuition.  The problem arises in someone being made aware and finding enough grants and scholarships to cover those things.

The BIGGEST problem I found while living on assistance was not being able to get information that I needed to help me.  It is difficult for many people to have to ask for help, but when you are asking for simple information about where to go to get the various help you need and people respond with "not my job" your level of frustration goes through the roof quickly.  I went to a local homeless event (where products and services were being made available for those who needed them) and was amazed at the ignorance of some of the groups that were there.  I spent a great deal of time with several of the "vendors" letting them know what some of the most important things were that I knew people needed.  Not one of them had toilet paper, a big need, shampoo was another thing that was in short supply.  Feminine hygeine products!  One vendor had sample packs of tampons, and was handing them out to women one or two at a time.  I certainly don't want to gross people out, but I don't know many women who could get through an entire people on two or three tampons.  Those products are very expensive.  I am proud to say that several of these "vendors" vowed to try to get more of the things that people would need after I spoke with them.  They had no idea that something other than food and warm clothing would be helpful and that is sad.

Another thing is that the system is very unequal where men and women are concerned.  More training services are available for women, in fact men really don't get any free training at all.  The logic seems to be that women have been raising children and now need the education to get on their feet.  To a great extent this is certainly true.  But what most people need is help navigating their way through the system and finding what they need.  While I was attending the various required programs, I spent a great deal of time directing people on finding what they needed.  For those who wanted an education, I told them about various scholarship sites that could be helpful, for those who were finally getting out of the shelter and finding their own place, I was able to hook them up with a church that provided donated furniture.  A man who lived in the boarding house I was in had never had a checking account in his whole life.  He had always had savings accounts and had no clue that when the bank told him his balance, that outstanding checks could effect the reality of that balance.  Consequently, he overdrew his account.  When he tried to go to the bank to straighten things out, the bank was beyond not helpful, wanting to charge him a daily fee until his account was in balance again.  This man lacked any education, had just started collecting his social security (he was 63), and that late charge was going to completely wipe him out of his 500 some odd dollars of social security.  I went back to the bank with him and spoke with the manager, just hoping to do something about the late fees, and managed to get the bank to void ALL the charges after I explained that he didn't understand.  It took 30 minutes of my time and he was unbelievably grateful.  Too often, people don't want to take the time to do something that simple.

Did the women I directed to scholarship sites actually utilize the information?  I don't know, but at least they now had the tools they needed if they chose to do it.  Does the man with the bank account now understand how it works?  I'm sure that he does.  The whole "not getting involved" mentality of people is a bigger part of the problem.  Not everyone wants to get off assistance, that is true.  But when the sysem makes it difficult to get the information you NEED to do so, it certainly doesn't help.


Now that you have all this knowledge, what are you going to do with it?  I hope that you are considering starting a Non-Profit business funded by the Gov't to help indigent people with these types of issues.  This is something as you said that is GREATLY needed.




Sinergy -> RE: Food Stamp Challenge--$21 a week (6/10/2007 8:56:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MstrssPassion

Beans - who the heck has time for dried beans anymore... LOL



I throw a bunch of beans in my crock pot with some salt and pepper and sherry and let it cook overnight.

Freeze them.

When I want to make chili or baked beans or whatever, I pull them out, throw them back in the crock pot with the cheap cuts of beef and pork, tons of fresh peppers and veggies, maybe some tomato sauce, spices.

A crock pot is your friend.

Sinergy




ayip -> RE: Food Stamp Challenge--$21 a week (6/10/2007 9:51:29 PM)

Wow.. except for a few cases this is the in general I've gotten from the responses on this thread.

$21.00 a week somehow equates in spending power to 40.00 a week.

If it's a child, elderly person or person with a special needs diet.. sorry bout your luck.

The Food Stamp program is designed to supplement a person/families dietary requirements. False btw. There never has been a formal designation. This is determined on a case by case basis. $21.00 per week is the US standard designated amount per individual. This can and is often adjusted by living costs per area up or down a few bucks. The cited amount of $94.00 would have been for a family.

If your a person that happens to be disabled and unable to maintain gainful employment... Again.. sorry bout your luck.

If you happen to make min wage and have children to support.. and are a single parent... Sorry bout their luck.
Someday your wage will go up but until then.. Sorry bout their luck.
Colleges offer courses you can attend to improve your learning potential. All you have to do is go sign up! And provide childcare while you attend which you couldn't on min wage .. so dump the rent to pay for childcare. Sorry bout their luck.

Lets emulate China and India !!! Suffer the masses !!!

With some exceptions.. I'm truly disgusted.

To note: Thankfully I've never been in a position to be in need of Social Services but I certainly don't begrudge those that are. In todays unpredictable world theres no telling what the next turn in the road may bring.




ayip -> RE: Food Stamp Challenge--$21 a week (6/10/2007 10:29:38 PM)

Maybe she also was there to pick up for another?




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