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ORIGINAL: MuscleyandCute

Sorry but I want to educate I plead, when a Domme gets so entrenched into the commercial aspects of female domination its often a shot in her own foot relationship wise.  I assume what a Domme seeks relationship wise narrows down to a man who wants to hold her hand, make her laugh and hold her in his arms and all the other things in that sense.  I know that for myself those things are more important than that she is a Domme yet I would want the person I love to happen to be also a Domme.


Those who have so much to give do not give it easily because the reason they have so much to give is because they are GREEDY and they want to GIVE A LOT to GET A LOT.  I am a very greedy submissive.  Not really, all I meant to say is that the more one has to offer the more one will require reciprocation.


The subs like this often tend to hold resent towards that which exploits them, I do not mean exploit emotively but I mean it as merely descriptively.  "Its just demand and supply" as they say.  The resent they often hold being emotive however.


I have been on the front line of this many years ago when a woman who manipulates the market for gain started to fall for me.  I could tell she would have been really a lovely girl and we truly loved each other yet but because of the circumstance..............................not in this life.


If you want to find a man who will love you look for the Pro Domme hater who has so much love to give but feels bitter at many Dommes for taking that for granted, but not that many would care anyway which comes round and re-enforces his hate making him appear to the naive that by virtue of his acidity he has nothing to offer at all.


Its the social environment of Female Domination.  We know that good subs are few and far between, subs who want to know and love a Domme for who she is not her whip.  This is something that many Dommes take issue with I know, yet on the other side there are few Dommes who want to know a male sub for who HE is.  On either side of the sub and the Dommes problem we have sex and money. 


However it is often that a male sub who takes issue with those who want his money will get extreme phsycological abuse, yet all he is doing is the same as the Domme in that he is complaining the Dommes do not want to know him for who he is, its parrallel regardless sex or money its all the same, sex the problem for Dommes, money the problem for subs.  


This abuse metted out on these subs is part of a social environment that will make it much harder for a Domme to find love. Much harder for a sub to find love.  Many who are either Domme or male subs dropping from the scene like flies to find love elsewhere among Vanillas.  The relationship people on these sites are RARE (femdom speaking) and I think it not likely that either Dommes or subs will find love on places in which the commercialization pushes out the relationship aspects.  Business and pleasure do not mix, yet in this case on a much larger scale in terms of social engineering. 


If you want love get the fuck down on your knees and apologize prefusely, its not just about D/s.


PS: Ive just noticed this post says its in reply to LadyHeart, its not I just pressed the reply button like that I dunno!!!  This post is a general address not specific to anyone, you do not have to listen to it or give it any credence it is entirely up to you.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Hi Muscley. The reason your reply shows to be to LadyHeart is if you use the box at the bottom it shows the name of the previous poster.

I dont disagree with your post except for the fact you seem to assume all Pro Dommes are the same, thats like people thinking all submissives are the same, which isnt the case.
While i can see that asking for money to " get to know Me " may well be a come on, i can also see the point about a Mistress being fed up of talking to guys who waste Her time. There must be some guys who actually enjoy spending their money in this way, and fair play to them.

i guess their are two sides to every argument and we can only do what we think is right for us.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

A very well written post.  Thank you for sharing it.
 
I have to admit, I have never put so much thought into the perfect sub/slave.  I've never considered perfection, because I don't believe perfection exists.  Not in people anyway.  A perfect moment, perhaps, but not a perfect person.  That doesn't mean that a boy hasn't done the right thing at just the right moment at times.  I was thinking of some of those examples just earlier today.  Those kinds of things make for wonderful memories.  Still, as wonderful as any of My boys were (when they were My boys) none of them were perfect, nor did I expect them to be. 

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ORIGINAL: MuscleyandCute

I assume what a Domme seeks relationship wise narrows down to a man who wants to hold her hand, make her laugh and hold her in his arms and all the other things in that sense.  I know that for myself those things are more important than that she is a Domme yet I would want the person I love to happen to be also a Domme.


Those who have so much to give do not give it easily because the reason they have so much to give is because they are GREEDY and they want to GIVE A LOT to GET A LOT.  I am a very greedy submissive.  Not really, all I meant to say is that the more one has to offer the more one will require reciprocation.





Its the social environment of Female Domination.  We know that good subs are few and far between, subs who want to know and love a Domme for who she is not her whip.  This is something that many Dommes take issue with I know, yet on the other side there are few Dommes who want to know a male sub for who HE is.  On either side of the sub and the Dommes problem we have sex and money. 




If you want love get the fuck down on your knees and apologize prefusely, its not just about D/s.



.....excellent post M/C- am in strong agreement particularly re the need for true reciprocation on the part of the Domme if She truly wants a genuine partner which de facto encompasses love within a FemDomme context -- but if its to be a true special relat. , Domme or otherwise me-thinks the Lady Vesta needs to wake up to the need for genuine reciprocation or she is living a fantasy for true love (to Her credit) while still swimming in the conventional Goddess world of Her and so many supplicants! ---- She's just going to end up with what She's already had i suspect.....(for what its worth)

(in reply to MuscleyandCute)

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ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta


They care about the environment, state of the planet and actively play some part in healing our planet.


They are genuinely kind and not caught up in the drama of life.  



Their fascination is with me and not themselves.

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ORIGINAL: Highheelfetish20

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ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta


They care about the environment, state of the planet and actively play some part in healing our planet.


They are genuinely kind and not caught up in the drama of life.  



Their fascination is with me and not themselves.

A real Woman here, folks.

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ORIGINAL: MuscleyandCute
TBH I think Dianas statement about wanting someone who cares about the environment is just a glass house to challenge subs to think they have good qualities in order to big themselves up to be attracted to her, but its false.

The environment is her leper and she is touching a few lepers for PR one could say, its a common trick of the trade, they call it "Touch a few lepers".  The only reason she wants a sub who cares about the environment is because she wants a kind sub who is nice to kittens, cares for the environment, helps old ladies a across the road and "Touches a few lepers" so she can admire what she could only ever dream to be then try and tear it apart to make herself feel better. 

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ORIGINAL: MuscleyandCute

The perfect D/s is where the submissive is treated well and has high self-esteem, this will allow them to serve with the most desire and humility.  If not it will be little more than shallow fantasy.  We are all human beings and to think that a submissive is there to serve you whenever you want, however you want is delusional if you want to be loved. 

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ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Hi Muscley. The reason your reply shows to be to LadyHeart is if you use the box at the bottom it shows the name of the previous poster.

I dont disagree with your post except for the fact you seem to assume all Pro Dommes are the same, thats like people thinking all submissives are the same, which isnt the case.
While i can see that asking for money to " get to know Me " may well be a come on, i can also see the point about a Mistress being fed up of talking to guys who waste Her time. There must be some guys who actually enjoy spending their money in this way, and fair play to them.

i guess their are two sides to every argument and we can only do what we think is right for us.

It is no mystery that large portion of males on this site feel that every dominant woman should submit to their needs simply because they make themselves available. They automatically assume that if a woman expects tribute or works at what she loves, that she couldn't possibly be sincere or truly dominant. Thankfully there are plenty of males that can see beyond this misconception. I have met some spectacular women that were prodoms that easily separated their personal life from their professional. All were lifestyle dominant women.

 

 

 

I certainly wouldn't expect the average submissive male to even understand what we go through.

For the record I'm not a professional dominatrix so i'm not really sure why this even entered this thread. Its true that I answer my phone and get paid and I own some adult sites. I've work in the adult industry 20 years at some capacity. I think that makes me a sex worker, something I am very proud of. If I had more time I probably would consider professional domination again.

 

But you're right.... everyone needs to do what works for them. I truly love the femdom lifestyle, every aspect of it. I enjoy helping people and creating venues for people to explore what it really is. Its how my relationships are really 24/7. Its passionate and romantic yet an outsider would think we were crazy.

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ORIGINAL: DianeB269

I'm looking for a very good looking deaf mute with a thick 7" penis.



Diane

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ORIGINAL: DianeB269

I'm looking for a very good looking deaf mute with a thick 7" penis.



Diane