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Multiple Questions for Slaves and Submissives - 6/11/2007 8:54:51 AM   
tenderfootmaster


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I have some questions that I just need answering because I really want to know. I don’t mean to sound “whinny” or making a “hissy fit” as some already told me I do.(Long Story) My inbox has been relatively empty unless I initiate the contact. What is it about female submissives? Do they message anybody at all first? Or do they just sit back and expect us to go “catch” them? Is there something wrong with me? I try and be as polite as possible when writing my profile, I use pictures, and if I make contact I am very polite and do nit use form letters.
Why is age so important for many? Why do people say that since I’m 22 I cant be called a Master. Like a 45 year old who has never done this before can say they have been doing this for 20+ years and automatically they are called a master and never questioned about it. Again, I’m really sore on the subjects at hand. I don’t want instant gratification by finding a slave “right the instant.” I guess I just want to know what kind of game I’m playing, to know the rules if you will so it will be relatively easier for me.


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RE: Multiple Questions for Slaves and Submissives - 6/11/2007 9:06:25 AM   
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Greetings SIr,
i am not sure i can answer all Your questions. After reading Your profile i will admit it seems to be one of the more honest ones i have read in a while,. I say honest because You admit to being inexperienced but also they You know what You are and are willing to work at learning the rest. It is also good that You are polite in Your dealings with others and not one of the funny "down on your knees bitxx" people who think that impresses anyone. i can tell You from years of experience as a slave that perfect matches do not happen over night. At the same time do not be quick to grab up the first person that You think well they are kind of what i am looking for. If You do not mind a couple suggestions from an old slave...i would google and find some lifestyle events in Your area...munches, workshops (which would be wonderful as You can learn many things there), just different gatherings. Find an experienced Master in Your area and see if He would mentor You and help You in YOur learning. Deciding to live as many of us have is to me wonderful. One thing i see to often is someone who is not experienced try to come off as they are...this is how many end up being harmed as they try things they have no idea how to do. That is why i suggest workshops , i used to stand in for a wonderful friend when he did ddemos and it was exciting watching Masters learn new skills. As i have said many times i may be old but i hope i never stop learning. i wish You the best of luck in Your search.
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RE: Multiple Questions for Slaves and Submissives - 6/11/2007 9:09:44 AM   
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i would chance to guess that the fact that you are seeking someone into poly would be the primary reason...theres a whole message board full of the woe's of finding a third for your poly family...its just hard and doesn't happen overnight...
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RE: Multiple Questions for Slaves and Submissives - 6/11/2007 9:13:08 AM   
tenderfootmaster


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ORIGINAL: viperess

Greetings SIr,
i am not sure i can answer all Your questions. After reading Your profile i will admit it seems to be one of the more honest ones i have read in a while,. I say honest because You admit to being inexperienced but also they You know what You are and are willing to work at learning the rest. It is also good that You are polite in Your dealings with others and not one of the funny "down on your knees bitxx" people who think that impresses anyone. i can tell You from years of experience as a slave that perfect matches do not happen over night. At the same time do not be quick to grab up the first person that You think well they are kind of what i am looking for. If You do not mind a couple suggestions from an old slave...i would google and find some lifestyle events in Your area...munches, workshops (which would be wonderful as You can learn many things there), just different gatherings. Find an experienced Master in Your area and see if He would mentor You and help You in YOur learning. Deciding to live as many of us have is to me wonderful. One thing i see to often is someone who is not experienced try to come off as they are...this is how many end up being harmed as they try things they have no idea how to do. That is why i suggest workshops , i used to stand in for a wonderful friend when he did ddemos and it was exciting watching Masters learn new skills. As i have said many times i may be old but i hope i never stop learning. i wish You the best of luck in Your search.
respectfully,


I thank you very much for you reply, I have been on the boards for a few days and have gotten a lot or help already, especially from LadyPact if you know her, or her posts. She suggested the same thing about doing a Google search for munches and workshops. She also suggested a lot of books that would help out also. Thank you again for your reply its much appreciated!


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RE: Multiple Questions for Slaves and Submissives - 6/11/2007 9:15:06 AM   
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...Do they message anybody at all first? Or do they just sit back and expect us to go “catch” them? Is there something wrong with me?...

 
if you expect that all submissives are identical and consider  them as a collective "they", whose behaviors and tendencies can be generically explained to the opposite collective Dominant/Master "us", then yes, perhaps their might be something unrealistic with your way of thinking.
 
quote:

...Why is age so important for many?...

 
why is physical appearance/financial status/abililty to bear offspring/etc., etc., important for many?
 
quote:

...
I guess I just want to know what kind of game I’m playing, to know the rules if you will so it will be relatively easier for me...


there is no One True Way/One Size Fits All...if this is a game you are playing, you would have to negotiate your "rules" with whomever consents to engage in your "game".

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RE: Multiple Questions for Slaves and Submissives - 6/11/2007 9:16:05 AM   
tenderfootmaster


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quote:

ORIGINAL: chellekitty

i would chance to guess that the fact that you are seeking someone into poly would be the primary reason...theres a whole message board full of the woe's of finding a third for your poly family...its just hard and doesn't happen overnight...
my 1 cent, cause i'm saving one to come back later
chelle
House Infernus



I guess I didn’t realize that a lot of slaves and submissives were against being in a poly relationship.


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RE: Multiple Questions for Slaves and Submissives - 6/11/2007 9:21:16 AM   
tenderfootmaster


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

quote:

ORIGINAL: tenderfootmaster
...Do they message anybody at all first? Or do they just sit back and expect us to go “catch” them? Is there something wrong with me?...

 
if you expect that all submissives are identical and consider  them as a collective "they", whose behaviors and tendencies can be generically explained to the opposite collective Dominant/Master "us", then yes, perhaps their might be something unrealistic with your way of thinking.
 
quote:

...Why is age so important for many?...

 
why is physical appearance/financial status/abililty to bear offspring/etc., etc., important for many?
 
quote:

...
I guess I just want to know what kind of game I’m playing, to know the rules if you will so it will be relatively easier for me...


there is no One True Way/One Size Fits All...if this is a game you are playing, you would have to negotiate your "rules" with whomever consents to engage in your "game".


Thank you for your input even though it really wasn’t much help. I can see it was you attempt to roast a new Master, congratulations! Also, “…kind of game I’m playing, to know the rules…” is a figure of speech. Kind of like “The game of love” and whatnot.


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RE: Multiple Questions for Slaves and Submissives - 6/11/2007 9:23:26 AM   
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I normally ignore threads like this, but for some reason, here I am, so here goes..from looking at your profile, it's hard to tell whether you want an s-type into poly, whether you would be the only one domming her, etc. I don't speak for everyone, but my thought would be there are probably more people here looking for one-on-one than poly, though I could be wrong..so any girl not interested in poly, is probably not going to contact you, or respond to contact you may make.  I'll also tell you that some people who've been around any length of time have automatic turn-offs to anyone labelling themselves master..lord..oh great and mighty dom, etc etc in their screenname.
 
"Why is age so important for many? Why do people say that since I’m 22 I cant be called a Master. Like a 45 year old who has never done this before can say they have been doing this for 20+ years and automatically they are called a master and never questioned about it. "
 
I don't know that age is as important as maturity level. I don't say that to criticize or demean you in any way, the simple fact remains, that in most cases, older people have more life experience, which usually (though not always) results in greater maturity. And yes, anyone can say anything they want about amount of experience, etc etc, but that does not mean everyone is going to automatically believe them or trust them..actions speak louder than words, though from what I've seen in posters here, it's not too hard to pick up on who's full of hot air and who isn't. Last but not least, I would let your fiance's profile speak for itself, maybe simply refer people to it..a lot of folks don't understand financial domination or the motivation, and would automatically avoid any referral to it like the plague. On the other hand, if you want to come off like a player who's decided it's fun to tie a girl up and flog her a little, and have a convenient male s-type handy to use for your own personal financial gains, leave everything alone.
 
  Now after all that..you seem like a normal 22 yr old male, there's nothing wrong with that, just know that not everyone is looking for "a normal 22 yr old male". Just my take..
 
-a

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RE: Multiple Questions for Slaves and Submissives - 6/11/2007 9:29:56 AM   
tenderfootmaster


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quote:

ORIGINAL: sublimelysensual

I normally ignore threads like this, but for some reason, here I am, so here goes..from looking at your profile, it's hard to tell whether you want an s-type into poly, whether you would be the only one domming her, etc. I don't speak for everyone, but my thought would be there are probably more people here looking for one-on-one than poly, though I could be wrong..so any girl not interested in poly, is probably not going to contact you, or respond to contact you may make.  I'll also tell you that some people who've been around any length of time have automatic turn-offs to anyone labelling themselves master..lord..oh great and mighty dom, etc etc in their screenname.
 
"Why is age so important for many? Why do people say that since I’m 22 I cant be called a Master. Like a 45 year old who has never done this before can say they have been doing this for 20+ years and automatically they are called a master and never questioned about it. "
 
I don't know that age is as important as maturity level. I don't say that to criticize or demean you in any way, the simple fact remains, that in most cases, older people have more life experience, which usually (though not always) results in greater maturity. And yes, anyone can say anything they want about amount of experience, etc etc, but that does not mean everyone is going to automatically believe them or trust them..actions speak louder than words, though from what I've seen in posters here, it's not too hard to pick up on who's full of hot air and who isn't. Last but not least, I would let your fiance's profile speak for itself, maybe simply refer people to it..a lot of folks don't understand financial domination or the motivation, and would automatically avoid any referral to it like the plague. On the other hand, if you want to come off like a player who's decided it's fun to tie a girl up and flog her a little, and have a convenient male s-type handy to use for your own personal financial gains, leave everything alone.
 
  Now after all that..you seem like a normal 22 yr old male, there's nothing wrong with that, just know that not everyone is looking for "a normal 22 yr old male". Just my take..
 
-a


Well then how would I be able to stand out among my peers? My girl is the one who wants the male Financial Slave, to tell you the truth I want nothing to do with men at all!


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RE: Multiple Questions for Slaves and Submissives - 6/11/2007 9:31:51 AM   
Mercnbeth


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ORIGINAL: tenderfootmaster

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

quote:

ORIGINAL: tenderfootmaster
...Do they message anybody at all first? Or do they just sit back and expect us to go “catch” them? Is there something wrong with me?...

 
if you expect that all submissives are identical and consider  them as a collective "they", whose behaviors and tendencies can be generically explained to the opposite collective Dominant/Master "us", then yes, perhaps their might be something unrealistic with your way of thinking.
 
quote:

...Why is age so important for many?...

 
why is physical appearance/financial status/abililty to bear offspring/etc., etc., important for many?
 
quote:

...
I guess I just want to know what kind of game I’m playing, to know the rules if you will so it will be relatively easier for me...


there is no One True Way/One Size Fits All...if this is a game you are playing, you would have to negotiate your "rules" with whomever consents to engage in your "game".


Thank you for your input even though it really wasn’t much help. I can see it was you attempt to roast a new Master, congratulations! Also, “…kind of game I’m playing, to know the rules…” is a figure of speech. Kind of like “The game of love” and whatnot.



and again, your false assumptions have led you to conclude that this slave's opinion on the futility of referring to all slaves and submissives as "they" and expecting "them" to all behave the same way, was an attempt to "roast a new Master"... instead of a genuine attempt at helping you recognize an unrealistic expectation which might be at the source of your frustration...rather than your blaming an entire group of folks based on their identity or relationship orientation for your frustrations.

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RE: Multiple Questions for Slaves and Submissives - 6/11/2007 9:35:35 AM   
LafayetteLady


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ORIGINAL: tenderfootmaster


I have some questions that I just need answering because I really want to know. I don’t mean to sound “whinny” or making a “hissy fit” as some already told me I do.(Long Story) My inbox has been relatively empty unless I initiate the contact. What is it about female submissives? Do they message anybody at all first? Or do they just sit back and expect us to go “catch” them? Is there something wrong with me? I try and be as polite as possible when writing my profile, I use pictures, and if I make contact I am very polite and do nit use form letters.
Why is age so important for many? Why do people say that since I’m 22 I cant be called a Master. Like a 45 year old who has never done this before can say they have been doing this for 20+ years and automatically they are called a master and never questioned about it. Again, I’m really sore on the subjects at hand. I don’t want instant gratification by finding a slave “right the instant.” I guess I just want to know what kind of game I’m playing, to know the rules if you will so it will be relatively easier for me.



I did a simple search on here for men or women slaves in kansas seeking a poly house who reside in Kansas.  It return six men.  If you click on any state and change to "relocatable only", the list gets bigger, but is still scarce on women.  Given the fact that this sparse group of women may have already been contacted in your recent mass mailing, you may have already limited some of your options.

Just a thought.

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RE: Multiple Questions for Slaves and Submissives - 6/11/2007 9:38:57 AM   
sublimelysensual


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quote:

ORIGINAL: tenderfootmaster

quote:

ORIGINAL: sublimelysensual

I normally ignore threads like this, but for some reason, here I am, so here goes..from looking at your profile, it's hard to tell whether you want an s-type into poly, whether you would be the only one domming her, etc. I don't speak for everyone, but my thought would be there are probably more people here looking for one-on-one than poly, though I could be wrong..so any girl not interested in poly, is probably not going to contact you, or respond to contact you may make.  I'll also tell you that some people who've been around any length of time have automatic turn-offs to anyone labelling themselves master..lord..oh great and mighty dom, etc etc in their screenname.
 
"Why is age so important for many? Why do people say that since I’m 22 I cant be called a Master. Like a 45 year old who has never done this before can say they have been doing this for 20+ years and automatically they are called a master and never questioned about it. "
 
I don't know that age is as important as maturity level. I don't say that to criticize or demean you in any way, the simple fact remains, that in most cases, older people have more life experience, which usually (though not always) results in greater maturity. And yes, anyone can say anything they want about amount of experience, etc etc, but that does not mean everyone is going to automatically believe them or trust them..actions speak louder than words, though from what I've seen in posters here, it's not too hard to pick up on who's full of hot air and who isn't. Last but not least, I would let your fiance's profile speak for itself, maybe simply refer people to it..a lot of folks don't understand financial domination or the motivation, and would automatically avoid any referral to it like the plague. On the other hand, if you want to come off like a player who's decided it's fun to tie a girl up and flog her a little, and have a convenient male s-type handy to use for your own personal financial gains, leave everything alone.
 
  Now after all that..you seem like a normal 22 yr old male, there's nothing wrong with that, just know that not everyone is looking for "a normal 22 yr old male". Just my take..
 
-a


Well then how would I be able to stand out among my peers? My girl is the one who wants the male Financial Slave, to tell you the truth I want nothing to do with men at all!



The only thing I can suggest is to go back to your profile and read it through..does it sound like who you are? Does it all ring true to you? What's going to make you stand out, is being yourself, post in the forums, get to know people..try to focus more on the journey than the destination. Go to some local activities...Honestly,you seem like a nice enough person here, I just don't think some of your profile reflects that...
 
-a

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RE: Multiple Questions for Slaves and Submissives - 6/11/2007 9:46:08 AM   
tenderfootmaster


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

quote:

ORIGINAL: tenderfootmaster

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

quote:

ORIGINAL: tenderfootmaster
...Do they message anybody at all first? Or do they just sit back and expect us to go “catch” them? Is there something wrong with me?...

 
if you expect that all submissives are identical and consider  them as a collective "they", whose behaviors and tendencies can be generically explained to the opposite collective Dominant/Master "us", then yes, perhaps their might be something unrealistic with your way of thinking.
 
quote:

...Why is age so important for many?...

 
why is physical appearance/financial status/abililty to bear offspring/etc., etc., important for many?
 
quote:

...
I guess I just want to know what kind of game I’m playing, to know the rules if you will so it will be relatively easier for me...


there is no One True Way/One Size Fits All...if this is a game you are playing, you would have to negotiate your "rules" with whomever consents to engage in your "game".


Thank you for your input even though it really wasn’t much help. I can see it was you attempt to roast a new Master, congratulations! Also, “…kind of game I’m playing, to know the rules…” is a figure of speech. Kind of like “The game of love” and whatnot.



and again, your false assumptions have led you to conclude that this slave's opinion on the futility of referring to all slaves and submissives as "they" and expecting "them" to all behave the same way, was an attempt to "roast a new Master"... instead of a genuine attempt at helping you recognize an unrealistic expectation which might be at the source of your frustration...rather than your blaming an entire group of folks based on their identity or relationship orientation for your frustrations.


I guess it doesn’t really matter what I say… O don’t know how, not to be specific on this one. I’m sorry if I somehow offended you by asking simple questions and I really do get what you saying. Just really, it seems when younger people on this site post all the older citizens on here flame the hell out of them if they don’t like what they hear. Yes I am doing the same thing hear, but I’m tired of sitting back and taking the “Bullshit” of being young. Maybe that’s why not a lot of young people post in here… It really is sad to see.


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RE: Multiple Questions for Slaves and Submissives - 6/11/2007 9:49:59 AM   
Mercnbeth


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Thank you for your input even though it really wasn’t much help. I can see it was you attempt to roast a new Master, congratulations! Also, “…kind of game I’m playing, to know the rules…” is a figure of speech. Kind of like “The game of love” and whatnot.


beth is so sensitive she has difficulty "roasting" meat. If she intimidates you into feeling attacked you need to reevaluate your perception.

Perhaps you should come back and try this again when you've acquired some confidence. One trait necessary for a "new master" is the ability to appreciate what he/she doesn't know, admit it to himself, and be confident enough to admit it to others. Seeking advice isn't productive if any given is perceived as being "roasting".
quote:

I don’t mean to sound “whinny” or making a “hissy fit” as some already told me I do.
Maybe others know you better than you know yourself?

Good luck.


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RE: Multiple Questions for Slaves and Submissives - 6/11/2007 9:54:32 AM   
tenderfootmaster


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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

quote:

Thank you for your input even though it really wasn’t much help. I can see it was you attempt to roast a new Master, congratulations! Also, “…kind of game I’m playing, to know the rules…” is a figure of speech. Kind of like “The game of love” and whatnot.


beth is so sensitive she has difficulty "roasting" meat. If she intimidates you into feeling attacked you need to reevaluate your perception.

Perhaps you should come back and try this again when you've acquired some confidence. One trait necessary for a "new master" is the ability to appreciate what he/she doesn't know, admit it to himself, and be confident enough to admit it to others. Seeking advice isn't productive if any given is perceived as being "roasting".
quote:

I don’t mean to sound “whinny” or making a “hissy fit” as some already told me I do.
Maybe others know you better than you know yourself?

Good luck.




Look, I can take constructive criticism. I’m in the Army for God’s sake… I’m just having a bad day… I can admit that I am wrong and for the people who "know me" I am a very string person who can admit when I am wrong.


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RE: Multiple Questions for Slaves and Submissives - 6/11/2007 10:49:39 AM   
RCdc


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A few days ago you posted about multi posting numerous profiles and bemoaning the lack of response.
This was only a few days after you joined.
Advice was given by numerous posters.
 
Your profile has now altered, and now you are in a relationship (apparently) and complaining that you are not approached and that people seem to have age issues.
 
You say that you do not want instant gratification, but this is all in less than a fortnight and you also admit to being new.
 
You then ask a question to slaves and submissives, in which a very experienced and respected slave responded to, and you immediately became defensive and personal.
 
None of these show maturity IMO - so maybe the response you are gaining isnt so much to your age, but rather the maturity you offer in your writings and profile?
 
My concern is you have become so wrapped up in the frenzy of becoming a 'Master' or owning that you are losing perspective.  I also read a mixed message of what you want, compared to your 'girl'?
Everything is very mixed messaged and confusing and also contradicting which is maybe a reason to why you are not receiving any positive mail or postings.
 
Peace
the.dark.


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RE: Multiple Questions for Slaves and Submissives - 6/11/2007 11:08:01 AM   
MissyRane


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tenderfootmaster

I have some questions that I just need answering because I really want to know. I don’t mean to sound “whinny” or making a “hissy fit” as some already told me I do.(Long Story) My inbox has been relatively empty unless I initiate the contact. What is it about female submissives? Do they message anybody at all first? Or do they just sit back and expect us to go “catch” them? Is there something wrong with me? 
 

In 99% incidents I don't initate contact.I try and be as polite as possible when writing my profile, I use pictures, and if I make contact I am very polite and do nit use form letters.

quote:


tenderfootmaster

Why is age so important for many? Why do people say that since I’m 22 I cant be called a Master. Like a 45 year old who has never done this before can say they have been doing this for 20+ years and automatically they are called a master and never questioned about it. Again, I’m really sore on the subjects at hand. I don’t want instant gratification by finding a slave “right the instant.” I guess I just want to know what kind of game I’m playing, to know the rules if you will so it will be relatively easier for me.


I prefer people older than me, it's a preference but then I don't mind 22 yo dont even mind 21yo heh. I don't find anything wrong with being called a master at 22yo.

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RE: Multiple Questions for Slaves and Submissives - 6/11/2007 11:15:17 AM   
AquaticSub


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ORIGINAL: tenderfootmaster


I have some questions that I just need answering because I really want to know. I don’t mean to sound “whinny” or making a “hissy fit” as some already told me I do.(Long Story) My inbox has been relatively empty unless I initiate the contact. What is it about female submissives?


What is it about male dominants that they think fem subs should all be beating a path to their door?
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 Do they message anybody at all first?

I only messaged people who interested me. If you aren't getting messages, maybe you should work on your profile.
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 Or do they just sit back and expect us to go “catch” them?

Considering some dominants think it's "unsubbly" for a sub to contact them, there is a chance that some won't start contact.
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 Is there something wrong with me? I try and be as polite as possible when writing my profile, I use pictures, and if I make contact I am very polite and do nit use form letters.

That fact that you currently have a relationship would disclude you from my search if I were single. Sorry if that upsets you but it's the truth.
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Why is age so important for many? Why do people say that since I’m 22 I cant be called a Master. Like a 45 year old who has never done this before can say they have been doing this for 20+ years and automatically they are called a master and never questioned about it.

Because they are idiots. I completely understand wanting to be with someone your own age. However, young does not equal inexperience. However if you are 22 and claim you have 10 years experience, then you are just asking for it. And some people do.
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Again, I’m really sore on the subjects at hand. I don’t want instant gratification by finding a slave “right the instant.” I guess I just want to know what kind of game I’m playing, to know the rules if you will so it will be relatively easier for me.


It's not a game that is any different from dating in any other social group.

Dating is hard. Your age may work against you as plenty of women find older men attractive (I am guilty of it though I prefer men my own age for relationships), inexperience (some subs/slaves aren't interested in a new master), and you are already in a relationship. Plenty of people aren't interested in poly or don't want to join an established relationship. Part of dating is accepting the things that work against you and then making the things that work for you very evident.

Are you active in your local community? Do you have an experienced mentor? Are you learning and open to being taught by an experienced person?

Edited to add: There is the fact that, quite bluntly, male dominants are not in short supply. Female submissives, particularly in the age range you are looking for, can afford to be pretty darn picky.

< Message edited by AquaticSub -- 6/11/2007 11:19:36 AM >


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RE: Multiple Questions for Slaves and Submissives - 6/11/2007 11:17:03 AM   
AquaticSub


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ORIGINAL: tenderfootmaster

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ORIGINAL: chellekitty

i would chance to guess that the fact that you are seeking someone into poly would be the primary reason...theres a whole message board full of the woe's of finding a third for your poly family...its just hard and doesn't happen overnight...
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chelle
House Infernus



I guess I didn’t realize that a lot of slaves and submissives were against being in a poly relationship.



Being a submissive does not make you poly any more then not being a submissive means you are monogamous.

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RE: Multiple Questions for Slaves and Submissives - 6/11/2007 12:45:26 PM   
silvermuse


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I'm not attacking you, but I'm going to offer a piece of advice that works for any message board.

Before you hit enter on a post, with a message that might come across as snarky, or might not portray you in your best light, stop and think. Do the message in draft form on notepad, walk away from the computer, then come back and look at it when you've taken a breath.

Now stop and think, read back over some of your posts here. A dom in charge of a poly household has to be a stable, calm person. One capable of keeping his emotions in check during a discussion. Especially if he's looking to add more women to the mix. He has to be able to cope with two human beings who might well become completely irrational hormone charged all men must die females for 3 days of the month. Who will no doubt end up with their cycles matching just to add to the wonderful mix. You won't have the luxury of being able to step away from a screen there.. so how you are portraying yourself here may well put off women who might otherwise be interested in you. Bad day or not the people here can't seen behind the screen so only have your words, your self presentation, to go by.

This is NOT an attack, but a piece of advice.

Stop. Think. Read. All before you hit enter.

muse

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