charmdpetKeira
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WhiplashSmile: This is basically a POV issue... so some people it's surrender and others it is not. Some slaves find it difficult at times to fully give of themselves. Read the begging threads. A sub/slave would have to surrender a part inside herself inorder to beg, based on a lot of the posts I read there. I would say my first D/s relationship worked similar to this concept. My willingness to please, came from the fact that I was owned by him. While I was capable of fulfilling my obligations in this manner; I have come to realize, for me, it was the equivalent of making a connection with sparkplugs to a distributor cap, only leaving some of the wires loose; it caused miss-fires in the relationship. quote:
Darcyandthedark: Let me know if my last post help or made any sense and answered what I feel surrender 'is' to me. Yes, it did; thank you. quote:
Onmykneesforhim: I should have looked here a while ago. Or did it just make submission more *dangerous*? Is it looked at like that a Master/Mistress is our center/diety? This statement reminds me of my interpretation, of the difference between the relationship I had, and the one I hope to have. My first relationship was like riding a rollercoaster, it had the ups and downs; slow and fast spots, in large degrees. The relationship I hope for will be more like riding the “tilt-a-whirl”. It is a much more level ride, with smaller ups and downs, and the most exciting part of the ride is getting one’s compartment spinning so fast that g-force kicks in. While both rides provide a similar sense of excitement, I am scared shitless of letting go, on my own accord, while riding a rollercoaster, (long story); I am extremely comfortable doing so, on the “tilt-a-whirl”. quote:
Slaverosebeauty: Relationships are all about give and take, its not 50/50; it might end up close in the end to that balance, yet, one partner gives more in some ways and takes more in some ways. I agree, a balance based on a pivot point, not on equality; yes? quote:
What about 'submit'? Thats another word for surrender, if the word surrender means 'defeate' to you, then maybe you should just replace that word with another. I will be the first to admit that when I was growing up the idea of submitting to another {Christian beliefs state that a woman should be 'submissive to her husband'} was so far out of my scope I was appauled by the thought, then I go a wakeup call, and realized, it WAS what I wanted, needed, craved and must have, deep down. I was very much the same way; it just wasn’t being presented in a way that made sense to me. quote:
Sleazybutterfly: Yes, it may sound a bit dramatic or fairytailish I don’t think so. :) quote:
TemptingNviceSub: To the OP..po..ta..toe...po..taaaa.toh...I find myself often amazed by how a single word can create so many verying definitions, reactions..I never realized the English language was so inept at adequate descriptive values...so as in most cases..whatever you want it to be..there it is! I already knew my prospective on the topic and how I felt about it. I realize though, life is not one dimensional and I can not possibly see all sides of a topic, from the one side I happen to be standing on at any given time, and that I have, as of yet, not stood on all sides of every topic. So I asked for people to explain to me how they saw the word, from where they were standing, to see if I could figure out what I was missing. It was my reading these message boards, which made it clear to me; many words, mean different things, to different people. Thank you all. Sincerely, k
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