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LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Slaves of Quality (6/15/2007 7:47:38 AM)

Sigh, if only they didn't buy into the myth that suddenly labeling themselves a sub/slave changes how relationships are formed or how their own judgement works.

Once they buy into that, the rest comes following after.  THAT is why it takes them so long to get their acts together. 




domiguy -> RE: Slaves of Quality (6/15/2007 7:58:02 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Sigh, if only they didn't buy into the myth that suddenly labeling themselves a sub/slave changes how relationships are formed or how their own judgement works.

Once they buy into that, the rest comes following after.  THAT is why it takes them so long to get their acts together. 


Post after post...Thread after thread....What happened to using your noodle?  Did anyone ever date or have personal interactions with others before they invented CM?

The more I am out here the more I believe that  the only thing I share in common with possibly the majority of people on this site is that we have access to a computer.

Virtually everything you need to make this type of relationship successful is the same functions that made your past relationships successful.




MHOO314 -> RE: Slaves of Quality (6/15/2007 8:06:28 AM)

...Or unsuccessful.




dawntreader -> RE: Slaves of Quality (6/15/2007 8:16:37 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy

The more I am out here the more I believe that  the only thing I share in common with possibly the majority of people on this site is that we have access to a computer.


Very good point!!!




WhiplashSmile -> RE: Slaves of Quality (6/15/2007 8:43:46 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Sigh, if only they didn't buy into the myth that suddenly labeling themselves a sub/slave changes how relationships are formed or how their own judgement works.

Once they buy into that, the rest comes following after.  THAT is why it takes them so long to get their acts together. 


LA, I simply adore you today for making this post!  You'd swear anybody who's a <insert label here> was no longer was part of the human race or something.  When did being in this lifestyle require us to not meet and get to know prospective partners the same way we do with anybody else?   What's up with all these people acting out Crappy BDSM scenes while trying to meet and get to know each other?




WhiplashSmile -> RE: Slaves of Quality (6/15/2007 8:52:00 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy

quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Sigh, if only they didn't buy into the myth that suddenly labeling themselves a sub/slave changes how relationships are formed or how their own judgement works.

Once they buy into that, the rest comes following after.  THAT is why it takes them so long to get their acts together. 


Post after post...Thread after thread....What happened to using your noodle?  Did anyone ever date or have personal interactions with others before they invented CM?

The more I am out here the more I believe that  the only thing I share in common with possibly the majority of people on this site is that we have access to a computer.

Virtually everything you need to make this type of relationship successful is the same functions that made your past relationships successful.


What's this?  Domiguy you actually made a serious post here, Holy Crap!  Oh wait, this was serious moment in a somewhat serious thread.  Damn and I thought you were the biggest BDSM online scene player of 'em all.. my image of you being Human and not Domiguy the Dom just totally trashed my day.....




domiguy -> RE: Slaves of Quality (6/15/2007 9:08:26 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: WhiplashSmile

quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy

quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Sigh, if only they didn't buy into the myth that suddenly labeling themselves a sub/slave changes how relationships are formed or how their own judgement works.

Once they buy into that, the rest comes following after.  THAT is why it takes them so long to get their acts together. 


Post after post...Thread after thread....What happened to using your noodle?  Did anyone ever date or have personal interactions with others before they invented CM?

The more I am out here the more I believe that  the only thing I share in common with possibly the majority of people on this site is that we have access to a computer.

Virtually everything you need to make this type of relationship successful is the same functions that made your past relationships successful.


What's this?  Domiguy you actually made a serious post here, Holy Crap!  Oh wait, this was serious moment in a somewhat serious thread.  Damn and I thought you were the biggest BDSM online scene player of 'em all.. my image of you being Human and not Domiguy the Dom just totally trashed my day.....


Every now and again there is a nugget of wisdom buried within the piles of crap I routinely spew....I took the approach of being a wise ass because there is very little out here (as far as subject matter) that should be taken seriously.

In all seriousness the forums have allowed me to meet some very cool peeps.....It just goes to show what you see online rarely meets reality.  I am definitely an online playa and a real life lady slaya....lol.




LotusSong -> RE: Slaves of Quality (6/15/2007 9:44:03 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: darkmyth

So many slaves wish to be objectified, de-humanized and tortured. These things become tedious if there is no greater depth to the relationship. While our manner of interacting may at times be curt or to objectify, this is done with an understanding that ultimately we desire our slaves to be intelligent and conscious of themselves as individuals. Being a slave should not necessitate being inferior, only giving absolute control to another. Slaves have little value if they do not value themselves and bring their masters only as much honor as their level of personal excellence. How fulfilling is it to dominate something pitiful? It seems exceedingly difficult to find slaves of quality. Does anyone else share this frustration?



I have always believed this.  If one comes to me declaring
he is unworthy, a worm boy or  toilet.. they may have well talked to the wind.
 
The moment you demean another human being, you demean yourself. 




Lordandmaster -> RE: Slaves of Quality (6/15/2007 10:23:53 AM)

It's not the first serious post he's made.

quote:

ORIGINAL: WhiplashSmile

What's this?  Domiguy you actually made a serious post here, Holy Crap!  Oh wait, this was serious moment in a somewhat serious thread.  Damn and I thought you were the biggest BDSM online scene player of 'em all.. my image of you being Human and not Domiguy the Dom just totally trashed my day.....




CuriousLord -> RE: Slaves of Quality (6/15/2007 11:43:00 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LotusSong
The moment you demean another human being, you demean yourself.


Do such phrases have any meaning beyond their shock value? How do you even attempt to justify this?




cutegirl2 -> RE: Slaves of Quality (6/15/2007 12:05:54 PM)

I agree with u velveltears.




cutegirl2 -> RE: Slaves of Quality (6/15/2007 12:09:16 PM)

[;)]




Brownsugasub69 -> RE: Slaves of Quality (6/15/2007 12:16:51 PM)

I agree with Domiguy.




DragonNphoenix -> RE: Slaves of Quality (6/15/2007 12:19:42 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: slaverosebeauty

{raises hand}

If a top-type wants a door mat or an object, then they can go and buy one. Me, I am soo much better than an object or a door-mat, I am interactive, I keep a top on their toes. I don't look at myself as inferior to ANYONE; I am everyone's equal, even the Goreans who look down on anyone who is NOT Gorean or who doesn't play by 'their' rules or act as they think I should.

I have had partners who wished to dehuminize and humuliate, I had a few 'words' for them, and then ended the relationship there. I don't want to fear my partner or to put them on a pedistal where they become unreachable or untouchable; I want them close to me and to be real as in interactive.

Welcome to the boards darkmyth. [:D]


If W/we had wanted a doormat, we would buy one from Wal-Mart.
 
1st girl Phoenix




Noah -> RE: Slaves of Quality (6/15/2007 4:54:41 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: justheather


quote:

ORIGINAL: darkmyth

So many slaves wish to be objectified, de-humanized and tortured. These things become tedious if there is no greater depth to the relationship. While our manner of interacting may at times be curt or to objectify, this is done with an understanding that ultimately we desire our slaves to be intelligent and conscious of themselves as individuals. Being a slave should not necessitate being inferior, only giving absolute control to another. Slaves have little value if they do not value themselves and bring their masters only as much honor as their level of personal excellence. How fulfilling is it to dominate something pitiful? It seems exceedingly difficult to find slaves of quality. Does anyone else share this frustration?



No. I've never found it difficult to find wonderful partners.

Maybe if you were to shed the vapid cliches of red and black, leather and lace, faux celtic romance novel crapola and (cue the smoke machine) darkness, you'd find yourself among people with more depth and breadth of imagination--people who wouldn't tire you so.

Or maybe you just tire easily. I dunno.

Leaving behind the silly-at-best and too often pernicious "honor" ethic for something less cartoonish, something deeper and more robust, could have its beneficial effects, too, within and without the parts of your life in which you prefer to appear in costume, or uniform, or whatever that is.

Anyway, these things sure work for me.

Just one more "pov", yo.



Having originally posted this accidentally under justheather's login I'd like to indicate that--however much she might agree with me--the thoughts presented were mine.

Noah




littlesarbonn -> RE: Slaves of Quality (6/15/2007 5:12:23 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DragonNphoenix



If W/we had wanted a doormat, we would buy one from Wal-Mart.
 
1st girl Phoenix


Don't buy your doormat from Wal-Mart. They're mislabeled. I got it home, and it immediately started topping me from the bottom. Stupid Wal-mart!




mnottertail -> RE: Slaves of Quality (6/15/2007 5:14:45 PM)

where the fuck you been, dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooode? glad to see you.

Ron




littlesarbonn -> RE: Slaves of Quality (6/15/2007 5:22:17 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

where the fuck you been, dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooode? glad to see you.

Ron



A group of about ten beautiful women kidnapped me on the street, throwing me into their van and took me to their undisclosed location dungeon for weeks until I was able to break my chains and escape.

Wait a minute! What the hell did I do????

(runs out and goes back to the spot where they kidnapped me in the first place)

Oh please, Great Shania Twain in the sky, please make it happen again!




BrutalMasterOne -> RE: Slaves of Quality (6/15/2007 6:04:49 PM)


I usually look up people prior to replying and when I did I found this couple to be 24. How hard can it be to find slaves of good  quality? Give it a chance in double the number of years you have been on this earth I have found enough to make me not only happy, but long term overjoyed. Of course every so often there are the inevitable rejects. But one has to go through many to find the gems. Trust me they are out there.
 
One thing I did notice was that you seem to say
quote:

objectified, de-humanized and tortured. These things become tedious if there is no greater depth to the relationship.
It is my feeling that your feeling is true only if you don't find it totally in your nature. For my own part I have done that all the time, LOL, in fact my employees would probably attest to that too... Telling you that they are tortured continuously. Seriously relationships are important but you (as I see it) have to keep a firm foot on the back of the neck or the slave becomes the one who is on top..




sweetnurseBBW -> RE: Slaves of Quality (6/15/2007 6:08:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: darkmyth

So many slaves wish to be objectified, de-humanized and tortured. These things become tedious if there is no greater depth to the relationship. While our manner of interacting may at times be curt or to objectify, this is done with an understanding that ultimately we desire our slaves to be intelligent and conscious of themselves as individuals. Being a slave should not necessitate being inferior, only giving absolute control to another. Slaves have little value if they do not value themselves and bring their masters only as much honor as their level of personal excellence. How fulfilling is it to dominate something pitiful? It seems exceedingly difficult to find slaves of quality. Does anyone else share this frustration?



I do not enjoy any of the things you described except for torture. I think you generalize slaves too much. I love myself and think i am very much worthy. There as many pitiful dominants as submissives. I personally think you need to look at your won feelings of a slave and meet some real ones.




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