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RE: Money slaves?? - 6/14/2005 10:38:32 PM   
Authentic


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Status: offline 		The reason I say that is because every study for the past few decades has shown that the virus is very difficult to pass from a women to a man sexually. Male prostitutes, worldwide are far more often to be responsible for the spread of the virus than are female prostitutes. If you eliminate africa from the world wide statistics, you would find more males suffer from the disease.

Also, men are far more likely to be intravenous drug users, another vector. So drug users passing it to other drug users usually result in more male infections.

Men can however easily pass the virus to a woman.

The one place where the trend is different is Africa. There men infect women more often, and have led to a far greater number of females infected than in the civilized world.

(I hate using the word civilized in this context)


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RE: Money slaves?? - 6/15/2005 12:02:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Authentic
The reason I say that is because every study for the past few decades has shown that the virus is very difficult to pass from a women to a man sexually. Male prostitutes, worldwide are far more often to be responsible for the spread of the virus than are female prostitutes.


I think you are looking at this from a first world perspective. Historically, the spread of HIV in Africa is traced to trucking routes and prostitutes whose clients were truckers.

And HIV is very much breaking out of sub-Saharan Africa. India is very close to 1% of its population being HIV infected - and 1% seems to be the tipping point for when HIV begins a rapid spread through the general population.

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According to the CSIS Task Force, the HIV/AIDS epidemic in India is not a single outbreak but a combination of epidemics that are local in nature, each with its unique challenges and solutions. The risk groups are small, dispersed and mobile, and stigma and discrimination are rampant. The task force reports that the epidemic is most acute in a handful of districts in the north, where the sex trade is linked with the presence of traditional "devadasis" (Indian girls sold into slavery as children).

Full article

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If you eliminate africa from the world wide statistics, you would find more males suffer from the disease.


I don't know about that. Perhaps this had been true in the 1980s and 1990s, but the character of the disease has changed as it has broken out of sub-cultures and into the main population. In the Caribbean half of people with HIV are women. In Latin America, one third of people with HIV are women. Here in the U.S. women are the fastest growing at risk population - with 80% of the cases via heterosexual activity.

http://www.kaisernetwork.org/daily_reports/rep_index.cfm?hint=1&DR_ID=30692

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RE: Money slaves?? - 6/15/2005 4:33:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		its true i agree
why the hell should anyone hand over their hard earned cash to a so called domme?
you are either in this lifestyle because you enjoy dominating subs
or you are just in it to make money.
no domme would get a dime from me no way!!!!!
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ORIGINAL: dommemagnet

To each their own but i'm having trouble understanding why any fool, sub male or otherwise would have any interest in this sort of arrangement. i've viewed more than a few profiles that blatantly advertise for "money sluts", etc. WTFO? i can understand in the context of a long term relationship how a sub would give all to his Domme, including control over all financial aspects of the relationship but to respond to an add that more or less says "send me your money" now that's just a little past my ability to comprehend. (i'll say it before someone else does, there's probably a lot beyond my comprehension around these parts - Ha

i realize that i don't have much experience in the lifestyle and i'm not trying to be judgemental, just curious if there really are subs like that out there.


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RE: Money slaves?? - 6/15/2005 5:52:18 AM   
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i realize that i don't have much experience in the lifestyle and i'm not trying to be judgemental, just curious if there really are subs like that out there.


Im glad you are not trying to be judgemental dommemagnet there are plenty here who will do that for you lol and in answer to the question you are curious about yes there are indeed subs and slaves out there for whom this is part of their kink and struggle with not only the prejudice they and their Dom/Domme will face but also finding a suitable Dom/Domme who is a financially dominant person as opposed to a pro-Domme as not many realise there is a difference. The former will generally never ask or need to ask or demand whereas the latter will ideally although not always make her intentions clear from the outset.

best wishes
Sasha

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RE: Money slaves?? - 6/15/2005 7:03:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: blackdomuk

its true i agree
why the hell should anyone hand over their hard earned cash to a so called domme?
you are either in this lifestyle because you enjoy dominating subs
or you are just in it to make money.
no domme would get a dime from me no way!!!!!
quote:

ORIGINAL: dommemagnet

To each their own but i'm having trouble understanding why any fool, sub male or otherwise would have any interest in this sort of arrangement. i've viewed more than a few profiles that blatantly advertise for "money sluts", etc. WTFO? i can understand in the context of a long term relationship how a sub would give all to his Domme, including control over all financial aspects of the relationship but to respond to an add that more or less says "send me your money" now that's just a little past my ability to comprehend. (i'll say it before someone else does, there's probably a lot beyond my comprehension around these parts - Ha

i realize that i don't have much experience in the lifestyle and i'm not trying to be judgemental, just curious if there really are subs like that out there.




Since you are supposedly a Dom I don't think you have anything to worry about.....

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RE: Money slaves?? - 6/15/2005 2:55:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		I dont get rude Emails asking me for money, Im surprised others have! maybe its cos of what Ive got written on my profile ! have a look!!!

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RE: Money slaves?? - 6/15/2005 3:07:13 PM   
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Nice profile, nice pic.

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RE: Money slaves?? - 6/15/2005 4:38:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: McWhips

I dont get rude Emails asking me for money, Im surprised others have! maybe its cos of what Ive got written on my profile ! have a look!!!


Really? I am glad you got your problem straightened out so fast. Like quietkitten says, what you have now added to your profile is not always a sufficient deterrent. But if it works for you, perhaps it will work for others.
I remember your first thread just a few weeks ago. Did you forget about that already?
Just joined and...

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RE: Money slaves?? - 6/15/2005 7:44:22 PM   
kc692


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RE: Money slaves?? - 6/16/2005 4:42:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold

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ORIGINAL: McWhips

I dont get rude Emails asking me for money, Im surprised others have! maybe its cos of what Ive got written on my profile ! have a look!!!


Really? I am glad you got your problem straightened out so fast.


That's what I was thinking...

I have 3 limits I state in my profile—do not request a long distance relationships and/or to relocate for me, do not write me with a list of your sexual fantasies and how much you me to dominate you, and do not call me Mistress or Ma’am but rather Miss or LadyAngelika—and yet I get an email a week at least where someone disrespects one of these limits.

At least the Money Dommes can respect well stated limits! I wish the same could be said about HNG troll sub boys!

- LA

*edited for grammatical reasons*

< Message edited by LadyAngelika -- 6/16/2005 4:44:15 AM >

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RE: Money slaves?? - 6/16/2005 6:23:13 AM   
dommemagnet


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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold


quote:

ORIGINAL: McWhips

I dont get rude Emails asking me for money, Im surprised others have! maybe its cos of what Ive got written on my profile ! have a look!!!


Really? I am glad you got your problem straightened out so fast. Like quietkitten says, what you have now added to your profile is not always a sufficient deterrent. But if it works for you, perhaps it will work for others.
I remember your first thread just a few weeks ago. Did you forget about that already?
Just joined and...

I read McWhips other post. he wrote that "he" did a search for Dommes and found quite a few requesting tribute on a weekly basis as he put it. i didn't see where he noted having been "solicited" for donations. He may have had his profile tweeked from the outset.

i haven't ever been solicited for tribute or financial dominance directly either. Don't know why since some other posters indicate it happens to them all the time. Some i've contacted have turned out to be Pro's though. i appreciate the honesty of those that state as much in their profiles. At least if one decides to contact a Pro, they are fully aware that there will be a financial obligation on their part if any meeting takes place. i'm not sure if there are many Pro's with personals here not stating plainly what their intentions are however i've seen so many that are quite clear, i find it hard to believe many (although i know some do) Pro's are hiding the fact from us poor ignorant subs. LOL

Some maybe, but the bulk-honest, straight forward, etc. Most Domme profiles i've read clearly indicate what they are looking for and add what they are not. Respect is the key here. If She is clearly looking for a sub female and you're male, guys leave her alone. (just used that as an example-surely not behavior limited to men) i suspect many quit using the site due to an overabundance of email from others that just don't meet the criteria that is laid out in the profile. If they decide to change, they'll update their profile. Until then, let them search in peace.

Another observation for what it's worth, most seem to be looking for an ongoing relationship here not casual play with any tom's, hairy, dick (is that a pun?) that comes down the pike. Bravo! Whether it be a vanilla relationship or one with BDSM involved, most seem to be looking for the stability found in a long term relationship.

Thanks again for all the input. It's been truly enlightening.

PS-12 posts and still "vanilla" Geez, what's a guy gotta do to lose the stigma? Ha!

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RE: Money slaves?? - 6/16/2005 7:33:02 AM   
kc692


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ORIGINAL: dommemagnet

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold


quote:

ORIGINAL: McWhips

I dont get rude Emails asking me for money, Im surprised others have! maybe its cos of what Ive got written on my profile ! have a look!!!


Really? I am glad you got your problem straightened out so fast. Like quietkitten says, what you have now added to your profile is not always a sufficient deterrent. But if it works for you, perhaps it will work for others.
I remember your first thread just a few weeks ago. Did you forget about that already?
Just joined and...

I read McWhips other post. he wrote that "he" did a search for Dommes and found quite a few requesting tribute on a weekly basis as he put it. i didn't see where he noted having been "solicited" for donations. He may have had his profile tweeked from the outset.

i haven't ever been solicited for tribute or financial dominance directly either. Don't know why since some other posters indicate it happens to them all the time. Some i've contacted have turned out to be Pro's though. i appreciate the honesty of those that state as much in their profiles. At least if one decides to contact a Pro, they are fully aware that there will be a financial obligation on their part if any meeting takes place. i'm not sure if there are many Pro's with personals here not stating plainly what their intentions are however i've seen so many that are quite clear, i find it hard to believe many (although i know some do) Pro's are hiding the fact from us poor ignorant subs. LOL

Some maybe, but the bulk-honest, straight forward, etc. Most Domme profiles i've read clearly indicate what they are looking for and add what they are not. Respect is the key here. If She is clearly looking for a sub female and you're male, guys leave her alone. (just used that as an example-surely not behavior limited to men) i suspect many quit using the site due to an overabundance of email from others that just don't meet the criteria that is laid out in the profile. If they decide to change, they'll update their profile. Until then, let them search in peace.

Another observation for what it's worth, most seem to be looking for an ongoing relationship here not casual play with any tom's, hairy, dick (is that a pun?) that comes down the pike. Bravo! Whether it be a vanilla relationship or one with BDSM involved, most seem to be looking for the stability found in a long term relationship.

Thanks again for all the input. It's been truly enlightening.

PS-12 posts and still "vanilla" Geez, what's a guy gotta do to lose the stigma? Ha!

You got to get to 26 , babes,,,,lol...then vanilla changes....It changes every 25 for the first hundred, then every hundred after that until 500, and well, by then, I'm sure you won't care, lol

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RE: Money slaves?? - 6/16/2005 3:51:15 PM   
GoddessDustyGold


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ORIGINAL: dommemagnet

quote:

ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold


quote:

ORIGINAL: McWhips

I dont get rude Emails asking me for money, Im surprised others have! maybe its cos of what Ive got written on my profile ! have a look!!!


Really? I am glad you got your problem straightened out so fast. Like quietkitten says, what you have now added to your profile is not always a sufficient deterrent. But if it works for you, perhaps it will work for others.
I remember your first thread just a few weeks ago. Did you forget about that already?
Just joined and...

I read McWhips other post. he wrote that "he" did a search for Dommes and found quite a few requesting tribute on a weekly basis as he put it. i didn't see where he noted having been "solicited" for donations. He may have had his profile tweeked from the outset.

i haven't ever been solicited for tribute or financial dominance directly either. Don't know why since some other posters indicate it happens to them all the time.


he didn't! Trust Me...I often read the profiles of posters, and I definitely read MCWhips.
Most of his accumulated postings (27 thus far) were fiery debates on that initial thread.
However, since you say you are not solicited either, I wonder if this is not quite as common as W/we are led to believe?
Remember, your OP was not about receiving unsolicited emails either. But you did frame your question in a curious and respectful tone. Both you and McWhips posed baciaslly the same scenario, with a different attitude.
I agree that if a Lady is strictly a Pro, She should say so, in Her profile. It is unfortunate that one might write a letter to a seemingly compatible Domina, only to find out She has no actual interest in any relationship except a professional one. But then W/we still have the boys who complain about the Pro Dommes advertising in the first place!
And, of course, on Our end, We still get the mail from all the HNG's who don't respect any limits at all. They don't even respect.
So, there ya go! This will continue to be a never ending complaint. I am sure there will be another thread next week, and W/we can all jump right back up onto O/our soap boxes!

< Message edited by GoddessDustyGold -- 6/16/2005 3:54:54 PM >

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RE: Money slaves?? - 6/16/2005 4:17:39 PM   
GoddessSasha


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am sure there will be another thread next week, and W/we can all jump right back up onto O/our soap boxes!


I agree GDG and I for one will be glad of that ...... why?

because I am under five feet tall and soap boxes make me taller

hehe

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RE: Money slaves?? - 6/16/2005 4:49:04 PM   
GoddessDustyGold


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ORIGINAL: GoddessSasha

quote:

am sure there will be another thread next week, and W/we can all jump right back up onto O/our soap boxes!


I agree GDG and I for one will be glad of that ...... why?

because I am under five feet tall and soap boxes make me taller

hehe


OMG! I luv ya! Someone who is shorter than Me! *W*


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RE: Money slaves?? - 6/17/2005 5:49:49 AM   
dommemagnet


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Status: offline 		i'm sure i don't get the solicitations because i'm as ugly as the northern end of a southbound mule lol! Whatever works LMAO.

GDG-no i didn't read Mcwhips entire thread and should have before throwing my 2 cents in.

Whatever the problems on this site, and i for one don't believe there are many, it's a damn sight better than any other BDSM personal add site i've seen.

For those Dommes needing a soap box due to their dominuitive stature, might i suggest standing on the back of Your sub. Come on ladies, at least use the correct tool for the job! lmao

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RE: Money slaves?? - 6/17/2005 11:46:01 AM   
GoddessSasha


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Status: offline 		LOL @ stand on the back of your sub

I knew there was a reason Ive been aching to get back into real life situations. Being over cautious can be a pain sometimes but I have to admit standing on a sub is just not possible online haha

oh and f y i there is NO such thing as an ugly person only ugly thoughts and actions everyone is beautiful in their own way and has the right to be loved as such

xxx

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RE: Money slaves?? - 6/17/2005 1:27:24 PM   
dommemagnet


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ORIGINAL: GoddessSasha

LOL @ stand on the back of your sub

I knew there was a reason Ive been aching to get back into real life situations. Being over cautious can be a pain sometimes but I have to admit standing on a sub is just not possible online haha

oh and f y i there is NO such thing as an ugly person only ugly thoughts and actions everyone is beautiful in their own way and has the right to be loved as such

xxx

GS,
i agree with You there. i don't have a picture posted here so twas a tongue in cheek comment. i guess in here it might be tongue between cheeks though.

RAOGPMP (rolling around on the ground peeing my pants) i'm laughing so hard.

i really amuse myself sometimes.

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RE: Money slaves?? - 6/17/2005 1:59:05 PM   
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there a good number of reasons. i won't do it for certain.
but i have seen a few that say hell yeah. it is some kinda kink i am not familiar with.
one i did like was where the Domme set him up on a budget and MADE him get caught up on his late bills and took him from red to the black in his accts.
that, i thought was totally cool.
She was something else....and he learned after that how to do it on his own.

but yes i guess THAT one is an exception?

thanks


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RE: Money slaves?? - 6/17/2005 7:55:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: asissyforher

why?
there a good number of reasons. i won't do it for certain.
but i have seen a few that say hell yeah. it is some kinda kink i am not familiar with.
one i did like was where the Domme set him up on a budget and MADE him get caught up on his late bills and took him from red to the black in his accts.
that, i thought was totally cool.
She was something else....and he learned after that how to do it on his own.

but yes i guess THAT one is an exception?

thanks



you actually make a good point here. And for Me, it is not the exception. But when I take over someone's finances, I do enforce a change in lifestyle. Bills are paid and paid off, and a boy often figures out some new priorities and realizes he doesn't have to continually jack up the almight credit cards, or dirve the car with all the bells and whistles. Which is what I was alluding to, in a sideways manner, in My previous post regarding some boys who can come out of a control situation like this and be better off.
However, I do believe the ladies being complained about are the ones who simply want you to visit the paypal account, and they never even bother to find out what the actual financial situaiton is. And that is the half-baked, one-sided format that gives financial domination a bad name.

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