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Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier Kid... - 6/15/2007 7:21:30 AM   
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Ok here my take on this and has been since all these parent groups came out of the damn woodwork. You don't want you kids to be fat? TAKE THEM TO THE DAMN PARK.

I grew up eatting Fruit Loops, and other cereals as well as a balanced breakfast as a kid. Hell I even had mcdonalds and wendys and burger king on a regular basis. Guess what? I was never a fat kid and I still eat that way now. All these groups and doctors who complain about childhood obesity are targetting the wrong people. They should be going after PARENTS and the SCHOOLS. Parents for not making thier kids go outside with water guns and water balloons and runa roudn til the street lights came on and they drop. I had a video game system when I was younger, guess how often i used it? When my firends were grounded and couldn't come out or out of town. I rode my bike or skated around the neightboor hood.  Schools need to bring back recess and also improve the quality of the gym classes, but also they need to stop banning game sliek tag and dodgeballs. Those are the games that get you runnign and burning fat.

Leave the cereal and fast food companies alone. They are doign what any business does, generate sales. Personally I feel all these 'alternative choices' are fast foods way of pussying out. Fast food and self control don't make you fat.  Fast food, junk food and laziness do. These companies need to stand by their guns and not wimp out damnit.  I'd tell these parents to be parents and play with their kids. I mean really any of use who are like 80's kids and backwards, how many fat kids did you really know when you were younger? All the ones i knew were fat from genetics and you know what they ran and hustled right along with the rest of us.

I feed my son french fries proudly and dare anyone to step to me and tell me otherwise. Cuz then they will get an earfull about personal choice and the fact that I don't need some stranger telling me how to feed or raise my son. My son took after me and is a slim lil runt and he eats 3-4 times a day and is the proper weight range.  Cereal and fast Food need to realize that all these people who say they will boycott won't hurt their business, because for all of them there are thousands if not millions of us who will walk right past the picket line order a big greasy buger large fries a milk shake and a damn apple pie and eat it right in front of them.
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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 7:33:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Actually this is a very smart move on their part, and I'm thinking about adding Kellogg to my portfolio.  People are very concerned about childhood obesity, and rightly so.  I've done some baking in the past, and I actually found my baked items tasted BETTER when I cut the sugar because I could actually taste the other flavors.

And 200 cals per serving...what's a serving?  3/4 cup?  Most people that I know who still eat cereal eat about 1.5c for breakfast, so at 200 cals/serving you get 400 cals for breakfast.  For 500 cals, I could eat a burger at a fast food joint (no mayo or cheese, please).

So the changes aren't that big imo, and the potential profits to be had by catering to the obesity epidemic are huge.  Kellogg might just be a BuyBuyBuy!

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 7:45:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Whether you want your kid to dine on foods that are composed primarily of fat and sugar is your choice....Defend it if you want....It is easy to feed a kid french fries instead of making some vegetables.....There are correlations made to adult onset of diseases and the foods that we consume....The fact is that everyone is now aware of the effect that these foods have on your body as well as to that of your childs.....It is your choice on whether you choose to act on this information or not.

Anywhooooo diabetes and heart disease are two of the fundamental plagues that keep our health system rollin' along. The doctors are awaiting your arrivals with open arms and sharpened scalpels.

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 8:18:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		You know, your assessment of this is way off base. My son had asthma as a child and could not run and play like other kids. He had the propensity to gain weight. I fed him the same way most people feed their kids and he got fat on it. I then turned into a health nutter. I took him to the park. We walked every day when he was a wee one.. to the store, to go swimming in the summer. I sent him out to play as much as his asthma would permit... some people just have genes that are bad. You cannot base the world through your own narrow view...

Me, when I was a kid I hated veggies and ate lots of corn flakes and bread and pasta... and I was skinny as a rail.. I had two sibs that ate the same way that were fat... why is this?

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 8:39:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		......so, healthy food is somehow anti-capitalist, therefore a socialist plot to weaken the republic?

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 9:09:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Not at all and you know what domi my son only gets french fries on occasion. My main this is if you don't want your kids to eat the stuff don't give it to them simple as that. don't make the companies change to suit your taste. And domi i am well aware of the factors i've got two strikes on me high blood pressure on one side diabetes on the other. The point i was trying to say is that most of these parent groups are saying because of the way these company market they are targeting kids... HELLO this stuff is meant fro kids to eat secondly if i am correct and haven't fallen into an alternate universe parents were still the ones who bought the damn groceries. I know plenty of kids who don't get what they want all the time despite the whinning.

I have nothign against healthy food shit i have an equal balance of junk and fast food to healthy food in my diet. And Juli i don't know if that was for me or domi but I know what you are talking about I have people like that in my family. Like i said this was about sticking to your guns. If you don't know how to balance and genes have lil to nothing to do with  it, then your health issues are your own fault. This is liek when people sued McD's for making them fat. Its called personal responsibility and in this case parents are responsible for kids. There are plenty of parents who just let their kids sit around and eat crap and then want to lay blame on everyone but them.



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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 9:13:15 AM   
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......so, healthy food is somehow anti-capitalist, therefore a socialist plot to weaken the republic?


Absolutely! We MUST boycott the food industry: it's one of the main sources of evil today. Not eating shit is one of the last bastion of the free-thinking person.

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 9:13:42 AM   
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... if i am correct and haven't fallen into an alternate universe parents were still the ones who bought the damn groceries. I know plenty of kids who don't get what they want all the time despite the whining.



*applauds you*

That's what bothers me.  These parents want everyone else to take responsibility for the health, fitness, and actions of their kids.  What happened to parents actually parenting?

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 9:15:02 AM   
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......so, healthy food is somehow anti-capitalist, therefore a socialist plot to weaken the republic?


Absolutely! We MUST boycott the food industry: it's one of the main sources of evil today. Not eating shit is one of the last bastion of the free-thinking person.


..i blame the liberals.....

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 9:16:43 AM   
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This is liek when people sued McD's for making them fat. Its called personal responsibility and in this case parents are responsible for kids.


I guarantee you that Kelloggs is doing this because they know it's a smart business decision, not because they're afraid of a lawsuit.  McD got on the health bandwagon 1-2 years ago and their same store sales--a key measure of how a restaurant is doing--are going gangbusters at +8%.  The stock is up 55% year over year, which is huge for a big cap fast food stock.

Health may be a fad, but it's profitable.

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 9:22:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		of course because everyone wants to live forever nowadays. Me i am either gonna die of old age, a heart attack or breast cancer(father adn mother went this way). Its why the organic sections all though pricey are still there. and actualyl self the artical even says kellog did it to avoid the lawsuit before it could even been filed. Its good business and manuvering.

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 9:22:05 AM   
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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 9:24:44 AM   
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... if i am correct and haven't fallen into an alternate universe parents were still the ones who bought the damn groceries. I know plenty of kids who don't get what they want all the time despite the whining.



*applauds you*

That's what bothers me.  These parents want everyone else to take responsibility for the health, fitness, and actions of their kids.  What happened to parents actually parenting?



these are the same parents who hate violent video games and movie but still let their kids watch the 6pm news. Hell I am sure some of them were on the Marilyn Mason was the true cause of Columbine bandwagon. Some people need a scapegoat and at the moment the fast food industry is it.

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 9:30:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Companies do what is good for their bottom line, and market forces are increasing nutrients in food. All I want on my food is accurate labels... including in the french fries that I buy. I want to be educated on what my child eats. Now if you can agree that many foods have been inaccurately labeled and marketed and deceptively sold to us, then I can understand your position that parents are responsible for their children. My problem as a parent is what my kid was sold at school, not what he got at home.



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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 9:31:29 AM   
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... if i am correct and haven't fallen into an alternate universe parents were still the ones who bought the damn groceries. I know plenty of kids who don't get what they want all the time despite the whining.



*applauds you*

That's what bothers me.  These parents want everyone else to take responsibility for the health, fitness, and actions of their kids.  What happened to parents actually parenting?



No. In reality what parents are saying is that since you are targeting kids to come into your store and if you want my business then give me some healthy alternatives in lieu  of the crap that you have been dispencing, unquestioned, for the last few decades.....It is not unreasonable and companies are responding.

All you need to do is watch "Super Size Me" and you can see the ramifications of a diet of this crap.  McDonalds offers convenience over health....Why can't we have both?  I have not eaten at a fast food restaurant in over a year.....Now if I can just get rid of these pesky lil' smokes.....Hypocrites abound everywhere....lol.

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 9:32:22 AM   
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Some people need a scapegoat and at the moment the fast food industry is it.


Did you know that they sell that shit in the schools, filled with transfats? Do you have any clue how posionous these things are?

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 9:45:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes Julie I do know that they sell in school. I bagged my lunch until I got into high school. And then you know what i had on a regualr basis? cookies out of the machines a soda or a snapple. Depending on the day chicken ffingers/wings and fries or pizza from papajohns or cheese sticks. We also have a student store that sells 20 different kinds of candy. Hell we had an ice crema vending machine. But you know what else we had? we had a powerade machine the snapple machine the water bottle we had subs from subway sold by the footbal team we had salads you could buy from the counter. If you don't want your kids eating the crap at school pack them a lunch. My mother gave me 20 to spend the entire week on food 40 when i was in a play and would need to go get something on break.

As for Supersize me the man ate NOTHING but McD's. Too much of ANYTHING is bad for you.

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 9:51:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		My screen name is "julia" not "julie"... and kids work these days and make their own money, they trade things...

You can feed whatever you want to your UM. Personally I think transfats should be declared a toxic substance by the FDA and completely taken out of our food... For the life of me I cannot understand why anyone would object to less poison in their diet, and more nutrition... it just does not make sense to me why a person would object to this

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 9:53:36 AM   
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... For the life of me I cannot understand why anyone would object to less poison in their diet, and more nutrition... it just does not make sense to me why a person would object to this


.....you're forgeting the damn-nogood-liberal-commy-socialist-end of the republic dimension.......

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 10:05:06 AM   
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As for Supersize me the man ate NOTHING but McD's. Too much of ANYTHING is bad for you.



Yes, but you are acting like McD's only sells one product....They sell breakfast, they sell potatoes, they sell chicken, they sell pork, they sell beef, they sell salads...Yet they have managed to poison virtually every product that they have to offer.

So in the scope of too much of anything is bad for you...In actuality when it comes to McD's too much of everything is bad for you.....McD's doesn't have to change a thing. They can keep on producing the same crap that they have for decades.....All some folks are asking is that if you want my biz then you better start responding more to my needs....End of story.

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